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Title: How to Determine COCKING EFFORT . . .
Post by: Tarheel on May 10, 2012, 01:13:00 PM
How to determine Cocking Effort . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV1I-H_irF4&feature=plcp# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV1I-H_irF4&feature=plcp#)

Dave
Title: Re: How to Determine COCKING EFFORT . . .
Post by: Smackey54 on May 10, 2012, 03:13:58 PM
Thanks for posting that, Dave. I will let you know what the cocking effort for the WFH with XL gas spring is....
Mark
Title: Re: How to Determine COCKING EFFORT . . .
Post by: Mike 4888blues on May 10, 2012, 03:16:11 PM
Thanks Dave  for having such a passion for air guns, and posting the different things you come up with, I personally enjoy your shared adventures. looks like I will be buying a used spring type scale, now that I seen that video, before I was using my digital scale.

 Like I said before in another post, we have 'the web' now day's, the proper information is out there.
 if  your are good mechanically inclined individual, you can learn for your self. the results will let you know, just like anything else. delrin spring guides, friction washers, how to buy, make your own, install , the information is there.
Title: Re: How to Determine COCKING EFFORT . . .
Post by: Smackey54 on May 10, 2012, 05:02:53 PM
Cocking effort on the WFH with the XL gas spring is just about 49lbs....after trying to average over 10 tries.
I would estimate the N-Forcer Yellow I had in it was 60-65lbs effort.
Mark
Title: Re: How to Determine COCKING EFFORT . . .
Post by: Tarheel on May 10, 2012, 05:04:47 PM
Like I said before in another post, we have 'the web' now day's, the proper information is out there.

Information is good . . . Good information is EVERYTHING !

Dave
Title: Re: How to Determine COCKING EFFORT . . .
Post by: Tarheel on May 10, 2012, 05:05:58 PM
Cocking effort on the WFH with the XL gas spring is just about 49lbs....after trying to average over 10 tries.
I would estimate the N-Forcer Yellow I had in it was 60-65lbs effort.
Mark

Mark,

Thanks for those numbers . . .  Do you have velocity numbers handy for both combinations ?

Thanks !

Dave
Title: Re: How to Determine COCKING EFFORT . . .
Post by: Mike 4888blues on May 10, 2012, 05:13:05 PM
 Disregard this. 8)
 
Title: Re: How to Determine COCKING EFFORT . . .
Post by: Smackey54 on May 10, 2012, 08:03:20 PM
Cocking effort on the WFH with the XL gas spring is just about 49lbs....after trying to average over 10 tries.
I would estimate the N-Forcer Yellow I had in it was 60-65lbs effort.
Mark

Mark,

Thanks for those numbers . . .  Do you have velocity numbers handy for both combinations ?

Thanks !

Dave


Today, I ran a string across the chrony with the .22 and XL gas spring. Avg: 947fps...(29.48fpe) almost consistently...spread was 3fps.
I never used the N-Forcer in the .22....only in the .25. Avg FPE was 32 .....here is the string....before the stock broke:

Pellet   Grains   Velocity   FPE
H&N FTT   20.06   852   32.34193817
   20.06   850.5   32.22815835
   20.06   851.7   32.31916616
   20.06   849.8   32.17512971
   20.06   849.4   32.14484724
   20.06   851.4   32.29640218
   20.06   853.6   32.46352429
   20.06   852.7   32.39510403
   20.06   851.8   32.32675594
   20.06   852.5   32.37990933
Average      851.54   32.30702437
Min      849.4   32.14484724
Max      853.6   32.46352429
Spread      4.2   0.318677052

Mark
Title: Re: How to Determine COCKING EFFORT . . .
Post by: WHITEFANG on May 11, 2012, 11:12:59 AM
Great info.