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Title: Super easy Butt Pad for The Little Norica 56 .***Pics are back!***
Post by: Petey on May 01, 2012, 10:47:36 PM
I have been having a lot of fun with little AG for a few weeks now.  So well made for the price and almost as much fun as letting loose a bag frogs in the school lunchroom.
But that's another post.

 So, being that it's a youth rifle the Norica 56 is a little short in the lop. And after a hundred shots that wooden butt gets old. Something had to be done and A pad would would kill two birds with one stone . Giving me both some length and relief.

I had a couple of Butt Pads laying around from earlier projects and not wanting to get overly involved in this project  I made my best attempt to keep it simple.

The Butt Is curved ...
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa347/NPetey/norica%2056/IMG_5045.jpg)
The pad is straight...
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa347/NPetey/norica%2056/IMG_5046.jpg)
Say Hello to my little friend...
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa347/NPetey/norica%2056/IMG_5047.jpg)
Before & After.
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa347/NPetey/norica%2056/IMG_5049.jpg)
Mark the stock  for the top hole.
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa347/NPetey/IMG_5051.jpg)
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa347/NPetey/IMG_5052.jpg)
I used Spax screws.. Self drilling so no wood splitting  and three small washers for spacing.
And Done.
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa347/NPetey/norica%2056/IMG_5053.jpg)
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(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa347/NPetey/IMG_5054.jpg)

Update: Robert asked for the Numbers...so out to the yard it went..as follows
All 10 shot strings.
RWS Hobby 7.0 ( Tightest fitting of the three)
Hi 489.3
Lo 468.8
AV 480
es 20.9
sd 6.4

JSB exact Express 7.87 gr.
Hi 570.0
Lo 555.8
AV 560.5
es 14.18
sd 5.19

JSB Exact Diabolo 8.44 gr. (most accurate so far)
Hi 548.2
Lo 535.5
Av 543.4
es 12.76
sd 3.87

Title: Re: Super easy Butt Pad for The Little Norica 56 .
Post by: CurmudgeInn on May 01, 2012, 10:57:27 PM
Wow, great Mod.  I need to do this with my .50cal BP. 
Title: Re: Super easy Butt Pad for The Little Norica 56 .
Post by: mav72 on May 01, 2012, 11:04:43 PM
Haha Nice Pete! In fact, I was shooting mine again today... I'm running low on them RWS super points now...

Shot my Tribal also and you were right... Since there was no breaking of the sound barrier, it was only a little louder than my plastic short barreled Pumpmaster 760... 
Title: Re: Super easy Butt Pad for The Little Norica 56 .
Post by: Petey on May 01, 2012, 11:16:19 PM
Try the JSB .  My Norica love's em. This was my am77.
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa347/NPetey/IMG_0988.jpg)

The Norica (today/15yrds/12Mph wind)The few fliers were all me.
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa347/NPetey/IMG_5080.jpg)
Title: Re: Super easy Butt Pad for The Little Norica 56 .
Post by: mav72 on May 01, 2012, 11:50:18 PM
Nice groups... Did your Norica quiet down?

The AM77 surprised me with it's groups when I shot the one I gave to my brother...

Your Norica 56 is grouping well... Since I was running low on the RWSs, I started trowing the bad Crosman CPHPs (from the tin) in it... Those pellets were all over the place... I made separate targets for the tight ones, loose ones, and the pellets that fit perfectly... I was doing pretty good with the perfect fit ones...  They grouped a little worse than your windy ones at 10 yards...
Title: Re: Super easy Butt Pad for The Little Norica 56 .
Post by: Petey on May 02, 2012, 12:20:26 AM
It's getting more quiet and starting to settle down...It's a fun little stinker of an airgun. I wonder if we're the only two that own a 56 ..LOl.
 I can get better groups than the ones posted , but I was shooting my HW30 prior and my eyes didn't want anymore time behind the scope.

BTW: Happy to hear the Tribal is working out. Keep us posted on it.
Title: Re: Super easy Butt Pad for The Little Norica 56 .
Post by: robert w on May 02, 2012, 10:03:28 AM
well now petey your the new crafty 1 here . great job on that butt plate and looks like it shoots fine also . whats the f.p.s. of it?
Title: Re: Super easy Butt Pad for The Little Norica 56 .
Post by: Petey on May 02, 2012, 11:42:00 AM
Hey Robert! 
I haven't got it over the Chrony yet...a Guesstimate..around 560 -575.
We'll have to find out in the next few days.
Title: Re: Super easy Butt Pad for The Little Norica 56 .
Post by: Donny on May 02, 2012, 12:36:23 PM
nice work, looks like it prob shoulders better too
Title: Re: Super easy Butt Pad for The Little Norica 56 .
Post by: ac12 on May 02, 2012, 12:38:42 PM
Pete
What is the LoP of the 56?

tnx
Title: Re: Super easy Butt Pad for The Little Norica 56 .
Post by: shadow on May 02, 2012, 01:13:22 PM
Nice butt extension setup, great work. Ed
Title: Re: Super easy Butt Pad for The Little Norica 56 .
Post by: mav72 on May 02, 2012, 01:18:39 PM
It's getting more quiet and starting to settle down...It's a fun little stinker of an airgun. I wonder if we're the only two that own a 56 ..LOl.
 I can get better groups than the ones posted , but I was shooting my HW30 prior and my eyes didn't want anymore time behind the scope.

BTW: Happy to hear the Tribal is working out. Keep us posted on it.

Lol I think there's one more person that may have a 56... I vaguely remember... They are fun, aren't they? Sometimes I take a brake from what I'm doing and grab mine to pop off a couple of rounds because the 56 is quicker to fire than my pumpers... I'm sure that HW30 is a dream to shoot... If you shoot your Norica first then you'll enjoy your HW30 even better... It's like drinking various grades of liquor.. LOL It's hard to go back when you start with the good stuff.

I'll let you know on the Tribal.. I just got the open sights sighted in yesterday. I need to still put a few rounds through her.. The trigger is as expected from a false 2 stage but it actually isn't that bad and I didn't even do any work to it... I haven't done any work on the 56 also but it's wearing in nicely...
Title: Re: Super easy Butt Pad for The Little Norica 56 .
Post by: Petey on May 02, 2012, 06:59:48 PM
Pete
What is the LoP of the 56?

tnx

Now 14" .. I could do more, but then I would not be able to move my scope back far enough....just as soon as i find someone with a mill... i have them knock off a 1/2 from the mount. Or just leave it alone....ya that's it .... ::)


I just noticed this is my 500th post.... I'm an Old timer now !
Title: .22 cal velocities
Post by: h2rider on May 02, 2012, 11:31:45 PM
Brand new Norica 56 in .22 cal, not broken in yet

PelletweightMV
JSB RS13.7415
Norica Apache13.0420
Coal Wadcutter14.0439
Thunderbolt10.0472
Crosman SSP9.5504

Just a little slower than my Winchester 425.

Paul in Liberty County
Title: Re: Super easy Butt Pad for The Little Norica 56 .***Updated***
Post by: mav72 on May 03, 2012, 12:30:59 AM
Good numbers.. Not that far off from advertised...

.177 cal 590 fps

.22 cal 492 fps
Title: Re: Super easy Butt Pad for The Little Norica 56 .***Updated***
Post by: Petey on May 03, 2012, 11:20:12 AM
Another 56 owner!
 That's three of us....wonder if we can have our own gate? LOL x2.

Petey.
Title: Re: Super easy Butt Pad for The Little Norica 56 .***Updated***
Post by: mav72 on May 04, 2012, 01:36:05 AM
Another 56 owner!
 That's three of us....wonder if we can have our own gate? LOL x2.

Petey.

LOL Good one... Forgot, congrats on the 500... I took a brake for a few months and missed out...

h2rider: Where did you get yours..? Did you get yours recently? I know PA stopped selling them in .22 shortly after I bought mine... I'm just asking because I don't see many Norica dealers...
Title: Re: Super easy Butt Pad for The Little Norica 56 .***Updated***
Post by: h2rider on May 07, 2012, 10:58:52 PM
Mav,

I bought my 56 from Pyramyd Air about a year ago.  I was looking for a low power .22 plinker but I have not had a chance to shoot it much so far.

Paul
Title: Re: Super easy Butt Pad for The Little Norica 56 .***Updated***
Post by: mav72 on May 10, 2012, 12:23:59 AM
Thanks Paul... Were you the one I was talking to last year after I got mine?

Hey Pete.... After I did some minor work on my trigger, crown, and breach on my 56, I decided to throw a cheap scope on it... I got the thing shooting really accurate... I'm still not used to the trigger because I got use to it when the trigger pull was harder... I find myself accidentally pulling the trigger all the time... LOL
Title: Re: Super easy Butt Pad for The Little Norica 56 .***Updated***
Post by: Petey on May 10, 2012, 01:26:48 PM
Fill Me in on the trigger.....that multi layer metal is hard.
Title: Re: Super easy Butt Pad for The Little Norica 56 .***Updated***
Post by: mav72 on May 11, 2012, 03:23:40 AM
Sorry so late... Was working on a car today...

Yea that multilayer metal IS hard but it's amazing how well a fine quality metal file can do the job... I've used that very same file with a drill to turn down a Crosman barrel...

For the 56, I took the action off first.... Then, held the trigger pulled, exposing that multilayer metal sear... I slowly worked a small fine toothed metal file (ones used for metal) across the face of the sear, keeping the file flat against the surface and the exact angle.. I would flip the action time to time to keep the filed area uniform on both sides... Usually I'd work my way up in sand paper to get a super shine but all I had was 1000 grit sand paper... After I got the surface pretty flat and shiny with the file... I wrapped the file with the 1000 grit  wet/dry sand paper and worked the sear surface again, attacking both sides. I'd check the shine with a flashlight to see the process of my work, making sure everything is uniform... Holding the trigger back CAN get kind of tiring on the hands... Next I put a little moly past on the polished sear surface. The contact point on the piston also needs to be polished but I'll do that when I get around to doing a REAL tune to the gun in the future...

Since I was at it, I decided to polish the crown. It wasn't bad at all but I just took it to , I guess, the level of my work standards... LOL I put a little tiny tiny piece of tissue in the barrel to keep it clean.. Next, I went looking for a long aluminum screw with a head that fit the crown and cleared the front sight... I chucked the screw into the drill, added some tooth paste, and away I went... I also did the same in the rear where the breech is... Next, I cleaned it all out, pushing out the tissue with a wooden stick and cleaning off the traces of toothpaste with a cotton swab... I put the action back on the stock with Loc-tite and let it cure before shooting..

So what did I get for all my work? A lighter tirgger (probably can get even lighter) that I'm not used to yet and (when I have to remember about the lighter trigger) cleaner less ragged paper groups..

Note: When I first tried to polish the sear on my Crosman 1377, I used a Dremel... The problem with that was I couldn't get a perfect flat shine... Later, I tried using the fine metal file and using various grades of fine wet/dry sand paper... I found that I get better results this way.. Slowly but surely...  ;)
Title: Re: Super easy Butt Pad for The Little Norica 56 .***Updated***
Post by: Hullslap on May 12, 2012, 05:35:06 PM
Question for MAV72, How much quieter is the 56 than the Tribal Basic?  I got one of those for christmas and was looking at the 56 for awhile as a quieter indoor gun.  All of my shooting is done in a room in my house and was wondering  how much less of an impact there was when the 56 was shot.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Super easy Butt Pad for The Little Norica 56 .***Updated***
Post by: mav72 on May 12, 2012, 06:43:19 PM
Question for MAV72, How much quieter is the 56 than the Tribal Basic?  I got one of those for christmas and was looking at the 56 for awhile as a quieter indoor gun.  All of my shooting is done in a room in my house and was wondering  how much less of an impact there was when the 56 was shot.  Thanks.

When broken in, my Norica 56 is about 1\3 quieter than my Tribal... When my 56 was new, the spring twang was very noticeable but as I continued to shoot and brake it in, it got quieter... Mine just sounds like slapping the end of a PCV pipe now and the cocking is very smooth... I suggest throwing on a scope like Petey did so the gun will be less hold sensitive, trying to line up the open sights... The open sights shouldn't be an issue if you are a youth or have a smaller body frame...