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Airguns by Make and Model => Hatsan Airguns => Topic started by: Mike 4888blues on April 10, 2012, 05:11:44 PM
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Well It is here, One hatsan 125 sniper .22
only problem is it came in black not the camo I was promised. it was also supposed to be at the same price as the black sniper.
Am I disappointed??
Not really I kind of expected it after reading Paul's review, hey at least it was not the thumb hole stock ( not that there's anything wrong with that, just not what i am wanting right now.
Back to the sniper 125/.22 in black.
dude's and super cool old timers listen up, this sniper 125 in plain old English is bad @@@ awesome looking, better then the pictures.. doesn't even feel heavy to me at all.
I called Joao and spoke with him, by now we all know hatsan arms really made a mess of his order, I hope that changes in the future for him or hatsan will be loosing a vendor.
Joao of American arms wanted me to keep this and shoot it until he gets a camo sniper in he said he ship it to me and have this one shipped back, I told him I will keep this, no sense him loosing more money by getting back a used rifle down the road.
I like to go with the flow if its understandable life's to short my friends not to do other wise.
Back to the 125 sniper .22 in black, has a patches oil here and there, yes its over done for protection, the muzzle brake, sound moderator looks totally awesome, its big too 8'' long
the bluing looks ok, not a RWS I took it out in the sun, with my eyes it looks like thin black painted barrel , but so did the mod 95. , "no complaint from me mind you!
I will tear this down right after i shoot a couple times.
well my impressions is I love it!!! get one any one but get one!
You wont know what your missing until you do!
Oh'' wait, i herd you asking about the plastic stock?... its awesome , looks nice and rugged like it cant wait to be dragged thru the Forrest and put thru its paces ;) 8)
I just took it to my control room , cocking force felt good, not as strong as i was expecting, barrel was stiff but not over tighten, lock up felt very good, breech area has a glob of thick red lubricant, yes I wiped it off completely.
The 1st shot sounded great !!! oh'' yeah this baby has some power that's for sure
,he'' he'' went right thru my controlled area shooting board, two doors and a wood panel of ply wood lol, and right where i aimed, with open sites out of the box.
Folks'' there's no doubt theses have been set up from the factory to keep from any harm encase they had to sit 10 years lol, I can tell they have been lubed for protection and meant to be cleaned up before use, that's all '' and that makes sense to me, all you crying baby's out there complaining about dripping oil ""well boulder dash"".. kernel potter says boulder dash now move it solider, and while your at it put a smile on your face. >:( 8)
We are here to enjoy each others post and sharing , I am a master plumber mostly commercial and industrial / stopped working for several yrs now so i can physically regroup and go back to light weight residential plumbing and heating.
The point is its nice to be on GTA and feel like a kid again, thanks to Gene and Bobs awesome website.
;) 8) :D
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good to hear. Will you be posting a "how to" on tearing down a 125? I sure would like to see one, complete with photohraphs. ;D ;D
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good to hear. Will you be posting a "how to" on tearing down a 125? I sure would like to see one, complete with photohraphs. ;D ;D
sure i could do that
great ideal!
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Good to see you got your rifle !
This dry-firing idiot gave an interesting tour of dis/assembly down to the spring.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldup2bACPcQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldup2bACPcQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCKJN6ww0vs&feature=youtube_gdata_player# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCKJN6ww0vs&feature=youtube_gdata_player#)
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My face will be smiling as so as I get confirmation my Airgun will be here Friday. Stock sounds as I had hoped. I upgraded my 125th to a 125 sniper camo thanks to Scott making me a deal on it so I could get it by this weekend. Can't wait to see pics. Just don't tell me you found metal bits in the compression chamber or a chuck in the bottom.
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Well It is here, One hatsan 125 sniper .22 only problem is it came in black not the camo I was promised. it was also supposed to be at the same price as the black sniper.
Joao of American arms wanted me to keep this and shoot it until he gets a camo sniper in he said he ship it to me and have this one shipped back, I told him I will keep this, no sense him loosing more money by getting back a used rifle down the road.
Mike,
Sorry, Buddy, but I HAVE to do this . . . LOL !
http://www.archerpelletguns.com/Camo-Dip-Service-s/112.htm (http://www.archerpelletguns.com/Camo-Dip-Service-s/112.htm)
Dave
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good to hear. Will you be posting a "how to" on tearing down a 125? I sure would like to see one, complete with photohraphs. ;D ;D
Check this out . . . Thanks to RAY !
http://www.eliteairguns.com.br/dica/detalhe/20 (http://www.eliteairguns.com.br/dica/detalhe/20)
Dave
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Mike, can't wait to hear how it performs for you! Would love to know the fps and how quiet it is. i wouldn't fret about the camo. You could always get it dipped and would probably last longer than what Hatsan puts on it.
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Mike, can't wait to hear how it performs for you! Would love to know the fps and how quiet it is. i wouldn't fret about the camo. You could always get it dipped and would probably last longer than what Hatsan puts on it.
yeah I go with the flow, its awesome criss I love it. the entire rifle just says look out wheww lol
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Well It is here, One hatsan 125 sniper .22
only problem is it came in black not the camo I was promised. it was also supposed to be at the same price as the black sniper.
Am I disappointed??
Not really I kind of expected it after reading Paul's review, hey at least it was not the thumb hole stock ( not that there's anything wrong with that, just not what i am wanting right now.
Back to the sniper 125/.22 in black.
dude's and super cool old timers listen up, this sniper 125 in plain old English is bad @@@ awesome looking, better then the pictures.. doesn't even feel heavy to me at all.
I called Joao and spoke with him, by now we all know hatsan arms really made a mess of his order, I hope that changes in the future for him or hatsan will be loosing a vendor.
Joao of American arms wanted me to keep this and shoot it until he gets a camo sniper in he said he ship it to me and have this one shipped back, I told him I will keep this, no sense him loosing more money by getting back a used rifle down the road.
I like to go with the flow if its understandable life's to short my friends not to do other wise.
Back to the 125 sniper .22 in black, has a patches oil here and there, yes its over done for protection, the muzzle brake, sound moderator looks totally awesome, its big too 8'' long
the bluing looks ok, not a RWS I took it out in the sun, with my eyes it looks like thin black painted barrel , but so did the mod 95. , "no complaint from me mind you!
I will tear this down right after i shoot a couple times.
well my impressions is I love it!!! get one any one but get one!
You wont know what your missing until you do!
Oh'' wait, i herd you asking about the plastic stock?... its awesome , looks nice and rugged like it cant wait to be dragged thru the Forrest and put thru its paces ;) 8)
I just took it to my control room , cocking force felt good, not as strong as i was expecting, barrel was stiff but not over tighten, lock up felt very good, breech area has a glob of thick red lubricant, yes I wiped it off completely.
The 1st shot sounded great !!! oh'' yeah this baby has some power that's for sure
,he'' he'' went right thru my controlled area shooting board, two doors and a wood panel of ply wood lol, and right where i aimed, with open sites out of the box.
Folks'' there's no doubt theses have been set up from the factory to keep from any harm encase they had to sit 10 years lol, I can tell they have been lubed for protection and meant to be cleaned up before use, that's all '' and that makes sense to me, all you crying baby's out there complaining about dripping oil ""well boulder dash"".. kernel potter says boulder dash not move it solider, and while your at it put a smile on your face. >:( 8)
We are here to enjoy each others post and sharing , I am a master plumber mostly commercial and industrial / stopped working for several yrs now so i can physically regroup and go back to light weight residential plumbing and heating.
The point is its nice to be on GTA and feel like a kid again, thanks to Gene and Bobs awesome website.
;) 8) :D
First of all, some of us "crying babies" out here expect better and are not so blinded by sales hype that we are willing to throw honest objectivity to the wind when we purchase an air gun.
It is quite clear you are glad handling the reality of what you've recieved in your quick dismissal of the oil bath and the poor finish.
While it's great you like your gun, there is no need to insult others well thought and spoken evaluations, nor is it necessary to attempt damage control of the Hatsan's clear shortcomings that are clear and evident to others.
Just enjoy it, be straight, and don't insult others intelligence or opinions.
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Well It is here, One hatsan 125 sniper .22
only problem is it came in black not the camo I was promised. it was also supposed to be at the same price as the black sniper.
Am I disappointed??
Not really I kind of expected it after reading Paul's review, hey at least it was not the thumb hole stock ( not that there's anything wrong with that, just not what i am wanting right now.
Back to the sniper 125/.22 in black.
dude's and super cool old timers listen up, this sniper 125 in plain old English is bad @@@ awesome looking, better then the pictures.. doesn't even feel heavy to me at all.
I called Joao and spoke with him, by now we all know hatsan arms really made a mess of his order, I hope that changes in the future for him or hatsan will be loosing a vendor.
Joao of American arms wanted me to keep this and shoot it until he gets a camo sniper in he said he ship it to me and have this one shipped back, I told him I will keep this, no sense him loosing more money by getting back a used rifle down the road.
I like to go with the flow if its understandable life's to short my friends not to do other wise.
Back to the 125 sniper .22 in black, has a patches oil here and there, yes its over done for protection, the muzzle brake, sound moderator looks totally awesome, its big too 8'' long
the bluing looks ok, not a RWS I took it out in the sun, with my eyes it looks like thin black painted barrel , but so did the mod 95. , "no complaint from me mind you!
I will tear this down right after i shoot a couple times.
well my impressions is I love it!!! get one any one but get one!
You wont know what your missing until you do!
Oh'' wait, i herd you asking about the plastic stock?... its awesome , looks nice and rugged like it cant wait to be dragged thru the Forrest and put thru its paces ;) 8)
I just took it to my control room , cocking force felt good, not as strong as i was expecting, barrel was stiff but not over tighten, lock up felt very good, breech area has a glob of thick red lubricant, yes I wiped it off completely.
The 1st shot sounded great !!! oh'' yeah this baby has some power that's for sure
,he'' he'' went right thru my controlled area shooting board, two doors and a wood panel of ply wood lol, and right where i aimed, with open sites out of the box.
Folks'' there's no doubt theses have been set up from the factory to keep from any harm encase they had to sit 10 years lol, I can tell they have been lubed for protection and meant to be cleaned up before use, that's all '' and that makes sense to me, all you crying baby's out there complaining about dripping oil ""well boulder dash"".. kernel potter says boulder dash not move it solider, and while your at it put a smile on your face. >:( 8)
We are here to enjoy each others post and sharing , I am a master plumber mostly commercial and industrial / stopped working for several yrs now so i can physically regroup and go back to light weight residential plumbing and heating.
The point is its nice to be on GTA and feel like a kid again, thanks to Gene and Bobs awesome website.
;) 8) :D
First of all, some of us "crying babies" out here expect better and are not so blinded by sales hype that we are willing to throw honest objectivity to the wind when we purchase an air gun.
It is quite clear you are glad handling the reality of what you've recieved in your quick dismissal of the oil bath and the poor finish.
While it's great you like your gun, there is no need to insult others well thought and spoken evaluations, nor is it necessary to attempt damage control of the Hatsan's clear shortcomings that are clear and evident to others.
Just enjoy it, be straight, and don't insult others intelligence or opinions.
You know what ? I was a joking but obviously some people no matter cant see a light hearted jester of comedy, the bluing was fine by the way, just not like a RWS would of looked gees.
lighten up get the bigger picture if that was not a little comicle then you need to re read it or try to see it for what it is.. the point is of course if some one needs to complain about the oil then have at it , that's there prerogative, as it was mine to joke about it in a light hearted way.
my money has been well spent, nothing was tossed to the wind.
I am glad I have my sniper even if it is black even if it has over oiling on it.
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What we have here, is a "failure to communicate" . . . Typical of internet communications, it is often difficult to feel the emotion behind the words. A joke can be interpreted as funny or a criticism, since there is no emotion conveyed with it !
Dave
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That's for sure Dave. With me adding the Sherman Potter from MASH bit with the solider put a smile on your face i mean even me saying i feel like a teen age-er again ,as well as what ever was all pretty light hearted.
If I wanted to Attack Dave, it would of been a direct Attack, there would of been no light hearten play at all, no Sherman Potter, no sharing about me being a plumber and going with the flow.
I would not bother to attack some one or rudely criticize others because as i also mentioned
Life's too short.
I may of done that about a vendor in the past but even that I took the tip from gene to not do it again.
I call it the people factor you get 50 people and there among the 50 one will see things more criticle then everyone else .
same person who jumped down my throat when i mention doing a typical tune to your air rifles was easy, I got oh there more to tuning that I am aware of. when the subject was basic typical tune that all the tuners have taught thru there post
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If I wanted to Attack Dave, it would of been a direct Attack, there would of been no light hearten play at all, no Sherman Potter, no sharing about me being a plumber and going with the flow.
But then, of course, I would have to take a "crack" at Plumbers ( LOL !) like this . . . Or, worse yet, post something to make Mike want to spend $$$ . . . LOL !
(http://www.flushtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/aim-plumbingtruck.jpeg)
Dave
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congrates, im happy I went with the black, its really sharp looking. Cant put it down
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congrates, im happy I went with the black, its really sharp looking. Cant put it down
You know the black is cool ,almost covert looking, perfect for the name sniper lol
I wouldn't care if it had poka dots I am glad i have the 125 sniper
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glad your liking the new rifle,keep us posted on it's progress.
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good to hear. Will you be posting a "how to" on tearing down a 125? I sure would like to see one, complete with photohraphs. ;D ;D
Check this out . . . Thanks to RAY !
http://www.eliteairguns.com.br/dica/detalhe/20 (http://www.eliteairguns.com.br/dica/detalhe/20)
Dave
If you Google search this site eliteairgun you will see where it says translate this , click on that then you should see where it says English[
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Thanks for the great information on the tear down of the 125. You guys rock! 8)
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If I wanted to Attack Dave, it would of been a direct Attack, there would of been no light hearten play at all, no Sherman Potter, no sharing about me being a plumber and going with the flow.
But then, of course, I would have to take a "crack" at Plumbers ( LOL !) like this . . . Or, worse yet, post something to make Mike want to spend $$$ . . . LOL !
(http://www.flushtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/aim-plumbingtruck.jpeg)
Dave
That plumber has great sense of humor, Ive seen that before.
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Well It is here, One hatsan 125 sniper .22 only problem is it came in black not the camo I was promised. it was also supposed to be at the same price as the black sniper.
Joao of American arms wanted me to keep this and shoot it until he gets a camo sniper in he said he ship it to me and have this one shipped back, I told him I will keep this, no sense him loosing more money by getting back a used rifle down the road.
Mike,
Sorry, Buddy, but I HAVE to do this . . . LOL !
http://www.archerpelletguns.com/Camo-Dip-Service-s/112.htm (http://www.archerpelletguns.com/Camo-Dip-Service-s/112.htm)
Dave
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Gees, man ^&$@_=s surprised me, any one know if the prosses is extremely durable. hhmm wonder what that cost lol oh maybe I can get the poka dots like buddy guy(Kidding)
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Gees, man ^&$@_=s surprised me, any one know if the process is extremely durable. hmm wonder what that cost lol oh maybe I can get the poka dots like buddy guy(Kidding)
Mike,
I think it is $79.99 . . . Click on a type of pattern on that link I supplied.
MORE INFO: ( From the ^&$@_=s website )
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)
Please read completely before placing your order.
1. GENERAL QUESTIONS
How long does the service take?
Allow 30 days for the process at our facility. (Multiple stages and curing time are involved). Add the shipping time for your stock to reach us, plus return shipping time by your chosen service. If you select lowest cost ground shipping both ways, the total time will be 45 - 50 days until the stock is returned to you.
Do you offer a faster turnaround?
Yes. There are several options than can significantly shorten the time. You can ship the stock to us by a fast service. Our Expedited Service cuts the time at our facility to just 10 days, and you can also select 3-Day return shipping. By making these additional-cost choices, your stock could be back with you in only 15 days!
Can I buy this service from any state?
The ^&$@_=s Camo Dip and More service is offered in the Lower 48 States of the USA (The continental US, not including Alaska and Hawaii).
Does this service qualify for free shipping as part of an order over $299?
No, unfortunately. This is because the stock will never ship with other products ordered and we cannot combine all the items into one package.
Can you dip any air rifle stock?
Yes - well almost! The Camo Dip and More service is for any single-piece air rifle stock that can be removed from the gun. This means that the vast majority of pellet rifle stocks can be dipped. See our Detailed Questions section for exceptions.
How durable is the camo dip finish?
The camo dip finish has similar durability to your original stock. Keep it clean and care for it appropriately. Keep in mind that the finish is paint-like and minimize contact with solvents and oils as these could attack the finish over time. Note that bug sprays containing DEET have been known to ruin the finish.
Is there a join in the pattern?
Yes. The camo dip process uses pre-printed sheets of film for the patterns, so there will be a join. We normally arrange for this join to be along the top of the stock’s cheekpiece. This makes the minimum visible length of join. Some patterns have large variability in color and tone and these can make the join quite apparent. More homogenous patterns minimize this effect. Our experts will minimize the pattern join where possible, but this is normal and inherent in the camo dip process, not just our service. Note that thumbhole stocks will have a join at both the top and bottom as this is necessary for the best coverage in this stock design. If you have any doubts and cannot accept this, please do not send a stock for the Camo Dip and More service.
How do I decide which finish to specify?
Overall, flat is the most popular finish, particularly for camo patterns, as it minimizes reflections in the field. Satin gives just a touch of sheen to the finish. The high gloss finish is best suited for use with wood pattern finishes or if you just like the high-gloss look - it’s an additional cost option.
Will my stock be safe with you?
Yes. Our facility is highly secure. We electronically register your stock on arrival. Your stock is also tracked throughout the camo dipping process.
Do I need to let the stock harden before use?
No. But obviously treat the stock with reasonable care in use to preserve the finish.
Is there are warranty?
Yes. We provide a 12-month workmanship warranty on all Camo Dip and More services. Obviously this does not cover excessive wear and tear from neglect or abuse by the owner. Warranty claims will require the stock to be returned to us at the owner's cost and are subject to our inspection and approval.
Do you dip any other parts of the gun, apart from the stock?
No. The ^&$@_=s Camo Dip and More service is for air rifle stocks only.
Do you dip scopes?
No. We use a liquid-based process that could penetrate and wreck some scopes.
I want several air rifle stocks dipped. How can I do this?
The Camo Dip and More service is a custom process that treats every stock as an unique job. If you want multiple stocks dipped, please enter a separate order for each stock, shipping each stock separately in an individual package.
I placed an order, but now I’ve changed my mind. Can you alter my order?
Unfortunately, no. Camo Dip and More is a custom service that is totally based on the selections you make when placing your order.
2. DETAILED QUESTIONS
Can you dip wood stocks?
Yes.
Can you dip synthetic (plastic) stocks?
Yes.
Can you dip thumbhole stocks?
Yes. Thumbhole stocks can be dipped successfully, although some stretching of the pattern may occur, dependent on the shape of the stock. This is normal and inherent in the camo dip process, not just our service. If you have any doubts and cannot accept this, please do not send a stock for the Camo Dip and More service.
OK, so what stocks don’t you dip?
This service is not for two part stocks, such as those found on Sheridan and Benjamin multi-pump guns, or on the IZH60, for example. It is also not for airguns which have plastic “clamshell” assemblies, such as the Crosman Nightstalker or M417, the Beretta CX-4, IZH MP514K, etc. And it’s not for stocks with adjustable cheekpieces and other adjustments, as are found on high-end target rifles such as the Crosman Challenger. If you have any questions, please email us before placing your order.
How visible will the join in the pattern be?
The camo dip process uses pre-printed sheets of film for the patterns, so there will be a join along the top of the cheekpiece of the stock. Some patterns have large variability in color and tone and these can make the join quite apparent. More homogenous patterns minimize this effect. Our experts will minimize the pattern join where possible, but this is normal and inherent in the camo dip process, not just our service. If you have any doubts and cannot accept this, please do not send a stock for the Camo Dip and More service.
Where will the join in the pattern be?
The join will be along the top of the stock. This makes the minimum visible length of join due to the action inletting. Our experts will minimize the pattern join where possible, but this is normal and inherent in the camo dip process, not just our service. If you have any doubts and cannot accept this, please do not send a stock for the Camo Dip and More service.
Do I need to remove any parts of the stock before shipping?
For synthetic (plastic) stocks, please remove the buttpad and any other stock parts that you do not want dipped. For wood stocks, leave the buttpad attached, this will be masked before dipping. If your stock has a separate trigger guard, please remove that. If sling swivels are fitted to the stock, remove those. Likewise any other parts that are attached to your stock by screws. Obviously you are responsible for removal, storage and re-fitting of these parts.
I have a Beeman stock that has a logo on it. Can you dip this?
Yes. Raised Beeman logos will be masked before dipping. So, the logo will remain visible after the process.
Can you dip a stock that already has a camo pattern?
Yes. The previous pattern will simply be covered and replaced by the new pattern.
3. TECHNICAL QUESTIONS
How does the process work?
1. On receipt at our facility, your stock is registered in our electronic job tracking system.
2. It is then cleaned and de-greased before a base coat is applied to neutralize the surface and create the appropriate tonal background for the pattern you have chosen.
3. The stock is then carefully masked where appropriate, covering the buttpad on wood stocks, the Beeman logo if present, filling the trigger well and other inlet areas of the stock.
4. A special film is printed with the pattern you selected and then floated on the surface of water in a specially-designed immersion tank.
5. This film is then sprayed with a special chemical activator which dissolves the film into a gelatinous state. The dissolved pattern continues to float on the water’s surface yet remains intact. (Amazing, but true!).
6. Your stock is now fully immersed into the liquid and quickly withdrawn from the tank. The pattern clings to the stock and wraps itself around the shape.
7. The stock is then washed to remove excess film residue and dried in temperature-controlled conditions.
8. Once dry, the clear coat finish you selected (matt, satin or high gloss) is applied to provide durability and protection against UV light.
9. When fully cured, the stock is shipped back to using your packaging and shipping choice. You will be emailed the return tracking number.
Can’t I do camo dipping myself?
Yes, you can buy kits on the Internet. But the price is similar to the Camo Dip and More service and these kits have many disadvantages. The consumer-quality chemicals they contain are not as effective as the professional chemicals we use. You need to find a suitable tank for the dipping process (and clean it afterwards!). The special film ages and works less well with time - ours is always fresh, that in the kits is often old. The finish coat we use is also professional grade and not consumer quality. But, most of all, we have the experience and knowledge gained through dipping stocks every day - if you do it yourself, you have a steep leaning curve to climb!
4. SHIPPING QUESTIONS
How do I send you my stock?
Send your stock in a strong, plain cardboard box wrapped in several layers of heavy duty bubble wrap for protection. The stock must not move about in the box. Ideally use a professional packaging service, as available from your local UPS Store ®. Note that your stock will be returned in the same box and packaging as you use to send it to us, so ensure that it will be well protected! Ship the stock with delivery confirmation and/or tracking. Also insure the stock for its replacement value.
Can I get my stock shipped faster?
Yes. You can ship the stock to us by a fast service. And you can also select 3-Day return shipping. By making these additional-cost choices, your stock could be back with you in only 15 days!
How is my stock returned?
Once completed, cured and inspected, your stock will be returned in the same packaging you used to send it to us, so ensure that it will be well protected! Return shipping will be by insured UPS, either Ground or 3-Day, according to your selection. We will email you the tracking number so that you can track progress.
Do you insure my stock for return delivery?
Yes.
Do you email me a tracking number for return delivery?
Yes.
Do you ship back to a PO Box?
No. UPS does not offer this service and must ship to a physical address (eg your workplace).
IF YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE CONTACT US BY EMAIL AT SALES@ARCHERPELLETGUNS.COM, OR TELEPHONE 585-425-0277.
Dave
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My face will be smiling as so as I get confirmation my Airgun will be here Friday. Stock sounds as I had hoped. I upgraded my 125th to a 125 sniper camo thanks to Scott making me a deal on it so I could get it by this weekend. Can't wait to see pics. Just don't tell me you found metal bits in the compression chamber or a chuck in the bottom.
hey didn't you get a 125th last week? or was that some one else/ your going to love the sniper, clean her up, remove the red glob of lube from the breech,
It would be nice if they weren't lubed for surviving ten yrs of shelf life, Hey maybe they think the ship is going to sink and they want the rifle preserved lol
If your can work on it yourself, and tear it down then you could tune it yourself and lube it properly/ something every springer air rifle could use no mater who makes it
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Gees, man ^&$@_=s surprised me, any one know if the process is extremely durable. hmm wonder what that cost lol oh maybe I can get the poka dots like buddy guy(Kidding)
Mike,
I think it is $79.99 . . . Click on a type of pattern on that link I supplied.
MORE INFO: ( From the ^&$@_=s website )
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)
Please read completely before placing your order.
1. GENERAL QUESTIONS
How long does the service take?
Allow 30 days for the process at our facility. (Multiple stages and curing time are involved). Add the shipping time for your stock to reach us, plus return shipping time by your chosen service. If you select lowest cost ground shipping both ways, the total time will be 45 - 50 days until the stock is returned to you.
Do you offer a faster turnaround?
Yes. There are several options than can significantly shorten the time. You can ship the stock to us by a fast service. Our Expedited Service cuts the time at our facility to just 10 days, and you can also select 3-Day return shipping. By making these additional-cost choices, your stock could be back with you in only 15 days!
Can I buy this service from any state?
The ^&$@_=s Camo Dip and More service is offered in the Lower 48 States of the USA (The continental US, not including Alaska and Hawaii).
Does this service qualify for free shipping as part of an order over $299?
No, unfortunately. This is because the stock will never ship with other products ordered and we cannot combine all the items into one package.
Can you dip any air rifle stock?
Yes - well almost! The Camo Dip and More service is for any single-piece air rifle stock that can be removed from the gun. This means that the vast majority of pellet rifle stocks can be dipped. See our Detailed Questions section for exceptions.
How durable is the camo dip finish?
The camo dip finish has similar durability to your original stock. Keep it clean and care for it appropriately. Keep in mind that the finish is paint-like and minimize contact with solvents and oils as these could attack the finish over time. Note that bug sprays containing DEET have been known to ruin the finish.
Is there a join in the pattern?
Yes. The camo dip process uses pre-printed sheets of film for the patterns, so there will be a join. We normally arrange for this join to be along the top of the stock’s cheekpiece. This makes the minimum visible length of join. Some patterns have large variability in color and tone and these can make the join quite apparent. More homogenous patterns minimize this effect. Our experts will minimize the pattern join where possible, but this is normal and inherent in the camo dip process, not just our service. Note that thumbhole stocks will have a join at both the top and bottom as this is necessary for the best coverage in this stock design. If you have any doubts and cannot accept this, please do not send a stock for the Camo Dip and More service.
How do I decide which finish to specify?
Overall, flat is the most popular finish, particularly for camo patterns, as it minimizes reflections in the field. Satin gives just a touch of sheen to the finish. The high gloss finish is best suited for use with wood pattern finishes or if you just like the high-gloss look - it’s an additional cost option.
Will my stock be safe with you?
Yes. Our facility is highly secure. We electronically register your stock on arrival. Your stock is also tracked throughout the camo dipping process.
Do I need to let the stock harden before use?
No. But obviously treat the stock with reasonable care in use to preserve the finish.
Is there are warranty?
Yes. We provide a 12-month workmanship warranty on all Camo Dip and More services. Obviously this does not cover excessive wear and tear from neglect or abuse by the owner. Warranty claims will require the stock to be returned to us at the owner's cost and are subject to our inspection and approval.
Do you dip any other parts of the gun, apart from the stock?
No. The ^&$@_=s Camo Dip and More service is for air rifle stocks only.
Do you dip scopes?
No. We use a liquid-based process that could penetrate and wreck some scopes.
I want several air rifle stocks dipped. How can I do this?
The Camo Dip and More service is a custom process that treats every stock as an unique job. If you want multiple stocks dipped, please enter a separate order for each stock, shipping each stock separately in an individual package.
I placed an order, but now I’ve changed my mind. Can you alter my order?
Unfortunately, no. Camo Dip and More is a custom service that is totally based on the selections you make when placing your order.
2. DETAILED QUESTIONS
Can you dip wood stocks?
Yes.
Can you dip synthetic (plastic) stocks?
Yes.
Can you dip thumbhole stocks?
Yes. Thumbhole stocks can be dipped successfully, although some stretching of the pattern may occur, dependent on the shape of the stock. This is normal and inherent in the camo dip process, not just our service. If you have any doubts and cannot accept this, please do not send a stock for the Camo Dip and More service.
OK, so what stocks don’t you dip?
This service is not for two part stocks, such as those found on Sheridan and Benjamin multi-pump guns, or on the IZH60, for example. It is also not for airguns which have plastic “clamshell” assemblies, such as the Crosman Nightstalker or M417, the Beretta CX-4, IZH MP514K, etc. And it’s not for stocks with adjustable cheekpieces and other adjustments, as are found on high-end target rifles such as the Crosman Challenger. If you have any questions, please email us before placing your order.
How visible will the join in the pattern be?
The camo dip process uses pre-printed sheets of film for the patterns, so there will be a join along the top of the cheekpiece of the stock. Some patterns have large variability in color and tone and these can make the join quite apparent. More homogenous patterns minimize this effect. Our experts will minimize the pattern join where possible, but this is normal and inherent in the camo dip process, not just our service. If you have any doubts and cannot accept this, please do not send a stock for the Camo Dip and More service.
Where will the join in the pattern be?
The join will be along the top of the stock. This makes the minimum visible length of join due to the action inletting. Our experts will minimize the pattern join where possible, but this is normal and inherent in the camo dip process, not just our service. If you have any doubts and cannot accept this, please do not send a stock for the Camo Dip and More service.
Do I need to remove any parts of the stock before shipping?
For synthetic (plastic) stocks, please remove the buttpad and any other stock parts that you do not want dipped. For wood stocks, leave the buttpad attached, this will be masked before dipping. If your stock has a separate trigger guard, please remove that. If sling swivels are fitted to the stock, remove those. Likewise any other parts that are attached to your stock by screws. Obviously you are responsible for removal, storage and re-fitting of these parts.
I have a Beeman stock that has a logo on it. Can you dip this?
Yes. Raised Beeman logos will be masked before dipping. So, the logo will remain visible after the process.
Can you dip a stock that already has a camo pattern?
Yes. The previous pattern will simply be covered and replaced by the new pattern.
3. TECHNICAL QUESTIONS
How does the process work?
1. On receipt at our facility, your stock is registered in our electronic job tracking system.
2. It is then cleaned and de-greased before a base coat is applied to neutralize the surface and create the appropriate tonal background for the pattern you have chosen.
3. The stock is then carefully masked where appropriate, covering the buttpad on wood stocks, the Beeman logo if present, filling the trigger well and other inlet areas of the stock.
4. A special film is printed with the pattern you selected and then floated on the surface of water in a specially-designed immersion tank.
5. This film is then sprayed with a special chemical activator which dissolves the film into a gelatinous state. The dissolved pattern continues to float on the water’s surface yet remains intact. (Amazing, but true!).
6. Your stock is now fully immersed into the liquid and quickly withdrawn from the tank. The pattern clings to the stock and wraps itself around the shape.
7. The stock is then washed to remove excess film residue and dried in temperature-controlled conditions.
8. Once dry, the clear coat finish you selected (matt, satin or high gloss) is applied to provide durability and protection against UV light.
9. When fully cured, the stock is shipped back to using your packaging and shipping choice. You will be emailed the return tracking number.
Can’t I do camo dipping myself?
Yes, you can buy kits on the Internet. But the price is similar to the Camo Dip and More service and these kits have many disadvantages. The consumer-quality chemicals they contain are not as effective as the professional chemicals we use. You need to find a suitable tank for the dipping process (and clean it afterwards!). The special film ages and works less well with time - ours is always fresh, that in the kits is often old. The finish coat we use is also professional grade and not consumer quality. But, most of all, we have the experience and knowledge gained through dipping stocks every day - if you do it yourself, you have a steep leaning curve to climb!
4. SHIPPING QUESTIONS
How do I send you my stock?
Send your stock in a strong, plain cardboard box wrapped in several layers of heavy duty bubble wrap for protection. The stock must not move about in the box. Ideally use a professional packaging service, as available from your local UPS Store ®. Note that your stock will be returned in the same box and packaging as you use to send it to us, so ensure that it will be well protected! Ship the stock with delivery confirmation and/or tracking. Also insure the stock for its replacement value.
Can I get my stock shipped faster?
Yes. You can ship the stock to us by a fast service. And you can also select 3-Day return shipping. By making these additional-cost choices, your stock could be back with you in only 15 days!
How is my stock returned?
Once completed, cured and inspected, your stock will be returned in the same packaging you used to send it to us, so ensure that it will be well protected! Return shipping will be by insured UPS, either Ground or 3-Day, according to your selection. We will email you the tracking number so that you can track progress.
Do you insure my stock for return delivery?
Yes.
Do you email me a tracking number for return delivery?
Yes.
Do you ship back to a PO Box?
No. UPS does not offer this service and must ship to a physical address (eg your workplace).
IF YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE CONTACT US BY EMAIL AT SALES@ARCHERPELLETGUNS.COM, OR TELEPHONE 585-425-0277.
Dave
Pretty darn cool.. I am going to see what else they offer for finish as well, other wise i am fine with the black.
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My face will be smiling as so as I get confirmation my Airgun will be here Friday. Stock sounds as I had hoped. I upgraded my 125th to a 125 sniper camo thanks to Scott making me a deal on it so I could get it by this weekend. Can't wait to see pics. Just don't tell me you found metal bits in the compression chamber or a chuck in the bottom.
hey didn't you get a 125th last week? or was that some one else/ your going to love the sniper, clean her up, remove the red glob of lube from the breech,
It would be nice if they weren't lubed for surviving ten yrs of shelf life, Hey maybe they think the ship is going to sink and they want the rifle preserved lol
If your can work on it yourself, and tear it down then you could tune it yourself and lube it properly/ something every springer air rifle could use no mater who makes it
Yeah, mine had the weird rough zebra strip blueing on the barrel 60 fps spread. They where out of the 125th's. Scott at AGD have me a discount on the price on the Sniper.
This one will be torn down and inspected for metal shavings before I shoot it. Want to see what it does stock. Then I have a new seal for it too.
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My face will be smiling as so as I get confirmation my Airgun will be here Friday. Stock sounds as I had hoped. I upgraded my 125th to a 125 sniper camo thanks to Scott making me a deal on it so I could get it by this weekend. Can't wait to see pics. Just don't tell me you found metal bits in the compression chamber or a chuck in the bottom.
hey didn't you get a 125th last week? or was that some one else/ your going to love the sniper, clean her up, remove the red glob of lube from the breech,
It would be nice if they weren't lubed for surviving ten yrs of shelf life, Hey maybe they think the ship is going to sink and they want the rifle preserved lol
If your can work on it yourself, and tear it down then you could tune it yourself and lube it properly/ something every springer air rifle could use no mater who makes it
Yeah, mine had the weird rough zebra strip blueing on the barrel 60 fps spread. They where out of the 125th's. Scott at AGD have me a discount on the price on the Sniper.
This one will be torn down and inspected for metal shavings before I shoot it. Want to see what it does stock. Then I have a new seal for it too.
I thought that was you. well good deal then sometimes when things go wrong it turns out better afterwards
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My face will be smiling as so as I get confirmation my Airgun will be here Friday. Stock sounds as I had hoped. I upgraded my 125th to a 125 sniper camo thanks to Scott making me a deal on it so I could get it by this weekend. Can't wait to see pics. Just don't tell me you found metal bits in the compression chamber or a chuck in the bottom.
hey didn't you get a 125th last week? or was that some one else/ your going to love the sniper, clean her up, remove the red glob of lube from the breech,
It would be nice if they weren't lubed for surviving ten yrs of shelf life, Hey maybe they think the ship is going to sink and they want the rifle preserved lol
If your can work on it yourself, and tear it down then you could tune it yourself and lube it properly/ something every springer air rifle could use no mater who makes it
Yeah, mine had the weird rough zebra strip blueing on the barrel 60 fps spread. They where out of the 125th's. Scott at AGD have me a discount on the price on the Sniper.
This one will be torn down and inspected for metal shavings before I shoot it. Want to see what it does stock. Then I have a new seal for it too.
when I opened up the mod 95 i used to have, the metal shaving were more like super thin paint flecks and very few, but you could see a few here and there, and yes the seal had a couple very very thin flecks in bended in it, mine had like two, so thin i dont think it ever would of hurt anything, but still since we can do our tear downs, were going to go for the nice tune and proper molly lube cause that's what airguns do ,
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Congrats Mike on your new pellet slinger! BTW, nothing wrong with the black! it will do great in the shadows..
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Congrats Mike on your new pellet slinger! BTW, nothing wrong with the black! it will do great in the shadows..
Mike,
Now, you need to get started on your Ghillie Suit or Bush Rag . . .
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptkSlztrg-s&context=C4adc4cfADvjVQa1PpcFOzr_go1Q5Y8kknQHz34GcuPnzAxDedMLw=# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptkSlztrg-s&context=C4adc4cfADvjVQa1PpcFOzr_go1Q5Y8kknQHz34GcuPnzAxDedMLw=#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce527dcs2o8&context=C4cc1ef6ADvjVQa1PpcFOzr_go1Q5Y8ufU76rbtEsmG2Y9gqncr7E=# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce527dcs2o8&context=C4cc1ef6ADvjVQa1PpcFOzr_go1Q5Y8ufU76rbtEsmG2Y9gqncr7E=#)
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Dave
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Cool.. thats a killer ghillie!
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Congrats Mike on your new pellet slinger! BTW, nothing wrong with the black! it will do great in the shadows..
Cool.. thats a killer ghillie!
Thanks Bob,
yeah I don't mind the black, , I am wiped out, was up till 3am working on a guitar neck my friend bought then up early next morning to make the post office at 8:30 so I could be home ready for the fedex truck yesterday when the sniper was coming.
Hopefully I can get to the B 3 today and see if I can adjust the leather seal That I modded with the faucet washers last time.
talk t y la bob.
Mike