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Airguns by Make and Model => Benjamin Airguns => Topic started by: Lambchops on March 14, 2012, 02:27:00 AM
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I see a Discovery in my future, but i'm doubting how quiet it ACTUALLY is with a TKO. Recently I shot my Benjamin 397 with a 4.0 gr Crosman alloy pellet at 8 pumps. It was really, really loud, almost if not more louder than my WFH. So how loud is a Discovery compared to a Benjamin 397?
I've also heard that even with a TKO a Discovery isn't that quiet...
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my disco is very loud stock,louder than my brothers 392 benji.
i haven tried a tko.
but stock....pretty loud....louder than my wfh .25.
but i shoot in a yard surrounded by a 6 ft fence....so maybe my noise is amplified alittle.
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Thanks. I think my sound might be amplified as well because there is such a huge open space in my backyard and a river in a ravine.
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LC, a disco with a tko is leaps and bounds quieter than a 397 firing at the specs you stated. People May say a disco and tko isn't quiet compared to an mrod but it is quiet compared to just about everything else
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the gun always sounds loud to the shooter....heres why.
your cheek weld amplifies the sound,your ears are tied into your mouth....lol.
the vibrations from the shot are amplified by your cheek bone,to you it sounds louder than it sounds to someone 5 yards away.
just something to think about.
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Would you say a Disco w/ TKO is quieter than my Stoeger x20s .22?
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the gun always sounds loud to the shooter....heres why.
your cheek weld amplifies the sound,your ears are tied into your mouth....lol.
the vibrations from the shot are amplified by your cheek bone,to you it sounds louder than it sounds to someone 5 yards away.
just something to think about.
Trust me, it's loud. I've seen joggers 200 yards.away stop dead in their tracks and look around. I'm convinced it's the ravine in my backyard.
If anyone is interested look up Blue Star Brewery co on google earth and notice the San Antonio river infront of it. my house is nearby, but i'd rather not disclose my address.
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lambchops
a disco with tko is not as loud as a break barrel.. break barrels dont really benefit from shrouds because 90% of what you hear is the action..
ive shot my disco 10ft from my cat and he didnt even budge..
if some one who has a disco with tko is willing to do this, this is what i did to show walt aka 0351vet what a tko does.
call each other on the phone and have the person go outside and shoot their disco with out the tko, then set the phone down so they can put the tko back on and then shoot again.. walt was deff able to hear the difference
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lambchops
a disco with tko is not as loud as a break barrel.. break barrels dont really benefit from shrouds because 90% of what you hear is the action..
ive shot my disco 10ft from my cat and he didnt even budge..
if some one who has a disco with tko is willing to do this, this is what i did to show walt aka 0351vet what a tko does.
call each other on the phone and have the person go outside and shoot their disco with out the tko, then set the phone down so they can put the tko back on and then shoot again.. walt was deff able to hear the difference
Would you mind doing this experiment for me? You live in Austin, I live in San Antonio. No long distance fees. Pm me your number and i'll call ya?
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I would speculate that the Disco would be quieter. Pneumatics of any kind, pump, precharged, heck even co2, all have to seem that little hybrid crack/pop/snap sound that a pistola makes....
But I have a Steriod benji in .22 and I have had a Disco...... Steroid benji on 12 pumps, hands down is louder than the Disco ever was. Quite possibly puts out more horsepower though.
Both are extrememly similar....short, light, accurate (my disco was not as accurate as my steroid) stock trigger is horrible, cheezy bolt action. But with work, very good guns, perform on paper and in the field.
If I were looking for backyard/range/hunting shooter in that order....Disco, because it can be effectively "shushed" but for hunting/backyard/range then 397.
Behind the gun NEVER sounds like the business end, but who wants to go to that end to listen :o
Best way to get an idea is shoot in a privacy fenced backyard, or in a basement, shed, wherever you can get audible feedback from the echo.
I pump my steroid literally one time, and you can hear it 80 yds away.
Disco is really a nice gun, IF you already have a good setup.....for me, a good setup would be a tank, a pump, and bulk c02 equipment.
Add a power adjuster, an AO scope with mildots, and you have great all around package that can do it all in a pinch. But you have lots of dollars invested.
397, about the same cost as the Disco (if steroided)---all in one package, but work between shots. They can be made to conserve air, and need less pumps between shots, but I think limited to a power range in this capacity.
A Benji 397/92 is really a must try gun.....you can get the refurbs for 100 bucks....hard to pass up at that price. If its accurate, enjoy it like it is. Squirrel away some money, when you have enough, send it to Mac-1. It'll come back a different gun, but "better" different.
If you buy a Steroid directly from Mac-1, comes with a LIFETIME warranty. You do your part, and maintain it, they will do thiers and back it.
Steroid does NOT = quiet, though. Not even sure if it could be made to be.
God bless,
Farmer
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I've got a steroid 392 and a Disco and my first thought was that the 392 at 8 pumps was louder than the Disco. I agree too that how loud either one is can be related to where you're shooting them. I've got a sound pressure meter (somewhere) and if I can find it and if it ever stops raining, I might be able to make some rough comparisons.
Allan
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I no longer have a disco with a tko.. my disco is now fully shrouded and I can't shoot my disco with out the shroud outside.. id have cops here in a heart beat, heck some one called the cops on me for shooting a co2 pistol in my garage one night.. once the cops made sure it was a co2 pellet pistol and not a .22 pb pistol they said " well nothing illegal about that" and I let them pop off a couple of a pellets before they left
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I see a Discovery in my future, but i'm doubting how quiet it ACTUALLY is with a TKO. Recently I shot my Benjamin 397 with a 4.0 gr Crosman alloy pellet at 8 pumps. It was really, really loud, almost if not more louder than my WFH. So how loud is a Discovery compared to a Benjamin 397?
I've also heard that even with a TKO a Discovery isn't that quiet...
Those 4.0 gr SSP's may be breaking the sound barrier causing a loud crack. My RWS sounds like a .22 rimfire going off pushing those little pellets at 1376 fps.
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I see a Discovery in my future, but i'm doubting how quiet it ACTUALLY is with a TKO. Recently I shot my Benjamin 397 with a 4.0 gr Crosman alloy pellet at 8 pumps. It was really, really loud, almost if not more louder than my WFH. So how loud is a Discovery compared to a Benjamin 397?
I've also heard that even with a TKO a Discovery isn't that quiet...
Those 4.0 gr SSP's may be breaking the sound barrier causing a loud crack. My RWS sounds like a .22 rimfire going off pushing those little pellets at 1376 fps.
A Benjamin 397 won't send 4.0gr pellets supersonic. More like 850-900 fps at the most.
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I dont find the diso loud at all with the tko, deffinatly loud when its off. In the woods even without the tko its hard to hear, sound doesnt seem to carry. I want hunting with my brother, he had my disco (without the tko) and I had my m rod. He shot a bunch of times a little over 50 yds from me and I only heard 1 shot. Havnt had a neihbor complain about the noise of my disco yet
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With a tko the ping in my airtube when I would shoot was louder then the shot..
Lambchops, you will not be disappointed with a disco.. there are some videos on youtube that will give you can idea of the sounds of a disco and I really would have been up for giving you a call to hear the difference in my garage if I had my tko here. Would only have to remove the shroud...
Would anyone with a disco and a tko before for giving lambchops a call and taking a shot or 2 with and with out the tko on their disco ?
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With a tko the ping in my airtube when I would shoot was louder then the shot..
Lambchops, you will not be disappointed with a disco.. there are some videos on youtube that will give you can idea of the sounds of a disco and I really would have been up for giving you a call to hear the difference in my garage if I had my tko here. Would only have to remove the shroud...
Would anyone with a disco and a tko before for giving lambchops a call and taking a shot or 2 with and with out the tko on their disco ?
Thanks anyways Mike.
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I dont find the diso loud at all with the tko, deffinatly loud when its off. In the woods even without the tko its hard to hear, sound doesnt seem to carry.
The thing about the Discovery, though, is that it pretty much requires an aftermarket shroud if you're in an urban environment. But by that time, you're almost at the price of a Marauder, which is a better option overall. The noise difference between a stock Discovery and a Marauder is huge down-range. One has a typical PCP airgun type "bang" to it and the other is more like a moderate noise from some random object. ie: a Hammer or closing your car's hood or whatever.
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I dont find the diso loud at all with the tko, deffinatly loud when its off. In the woods even without the tko its hard to hear, sound doesnt seem to carry.
The thing about the Discovery, though, is that it pretty much requires an aftermarket shroud if you're in an urban environment. But by that time, you're almost at the price of a Marauder, which is a better option overall. The noise difference between a stock Discovery and a Marauder is huge down-range. One has a typical PCP airgun type "bang" to it and the other is more like a moderate noise from some random object. ie: a Hammer or closing your car's hood or whatever.
I dont think a full shroud is necessary. I used to have a tko and I have neighbors on all sides of me, not once did any of them even come to see what I was doing when I had the TKO on
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You don't need a full shroud, to be sure. The TKO or any competent brake will get the job done. But the full shroud on the Marauder is a pretty sweet thing. Now, if it were my choice, I'd get the Marauder pistol instead as it's just below the power of the Discovery and is very quiet. At ~$350 it's kind of a no-brainer choice, IMO. Just another option that might not have occurred to the original poster.
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I just saw this post and if you still want to compare the sound shoot me a pm. I would be happy to let you compare the sound with and without the TKO. I will give you my # and you can decide for yourself.
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To defend the disco vs mrod
Yes mrod have their bonus's but even a a refurb ur not any where close to cost of a disco pump combo.. cheapest route for a mrod and fill source is a hand pump, u can find them used for like 125 to 150. But new ur looking at 180 for the benji pump
Disco + pump + tko. Is a lot cheaper then a mrod and a pump.. you can get a disco w/pump and a tko and a very nice scope and pellets for the cost of the mrod and pump
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But then again ... that M-rod trigger is so sweet !!
And it's a repeater too
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But then again ... that M-rod trigger is so sweet !!
And it's a repeater too
But then again ... I'm happy with my modded Disco trigger !!
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i like both , but the oscar goes to the mrod