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Airguns by Make and Model => Benjamin Airguns => Topic started by: PA1911 on September 17, 2010, 12:00:46 AM
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Hey Folks,
After a couple problems with my Benji XL1500 Breakbarrel, I have decided to try PCPs. I have never owned a PCP rifle so I have a few questions pertaining to the Marauder. I am getting one in .22 caliber if that helps.
1. How do you clean the barrel before firing? What do you use?
2. I understand there is an o-ring in the breech, how do i care for that?
3. Tell me about the barrel bands. Any tweaks for accuracy? I seen one guy removed his??
Basically I just need tips, trick, and general knowledge for a new Marauder owner.
Thanks for the help,
Shawn
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I don't own one, but I'm sure there a lot of info here on the Crosman PCP Forum
http://www.network54.com/Forum/581291/ (http://www.network54.com/Forum/581291/)
Nathan
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From what I've being reading the .22 is a bit of a &^^& shoot, most of the time needs to be sent out for a tune/barrel change, a change of stock is highly reccomended too, by the time you get your gun back for the same money you could have bought and shot for months a top of the line European gun, somethimes to go cheaper of the bat only makes you spend more money down the road.
if you have to go Maurader you might wanna consider the .25
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Have had a.22 since March and the basics are for cleaning:1) remove shroud and use pull through string(weedeater line) and goo-gone until clean then- dry patches.Do this before mounting scope,so you can get to barrel 2.) the o-ring is just inside the chamber and can be lubed with divers silicone and Q-tip 3)The barrel band is a PITA. best to remove as long as your careful with handling rifle( I had mine jump off rest and bent barrel and had to order new barrel($25@ crosman)
As mentioned, there is a wealth of info on other sites for adjusting and care and feeding.The greg Davis site gives info on barrel polidhing and cleaning up inlead(chamber)Be prepared to shoot lots of pellets to adjust and fine tune.These are infinately adjustable to shooter preference and a chrony is almost a necessity. If you like to tinker its a great platform.Have fun
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I have one in .22 cal; been shooting it for about a week. After cleaning per the advice given above, I lightened the trigger pull a bit, (turned adjusting screw one turn CCW), per the instructions in the book that came with the rifle. I seated the stock screw firmly, (it was loose), and started shooting a variety of pellets from a shooting bench using bags. So far only 150 pellets down the tube; just getting acquainted! ;D The best 10 shot groups so far are: .500" at 30 yard CPUM pellets, next best is JSB Jumbo RS at .720" at 30 yards.
Personally, I wouldnt even think about taking off the barrel band, replacing the stock or "tuning" until you get acquainted with the rifle ..... minimum of 500 rounds, more is better. By then you get to know the rifle and its preferences and capabilities. This old saying is very true, "Dont fix it if it aint broke."
Have fun shooting!!
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I may have just got an awsome gun because ive had my .22 for a few months and i really cant say anything bad about.its so accurate it almost gets boring knowing im not going to miss anything inside of 60 yards and im sure when i go out and shoot longer distances things will be the same.the trigger on mine i made just a tad higher pull weight because im a hunter and it was a little to light for me.the stock could be a little more refined kinda like how Manny did his.all around plenty of power for any small game with in 100 yards,and when you find a pellet your gun likes stay with it.GOOD LUCK.ENJOY
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Hey Folks,
I appreciate the help.
Are all the .22s having problems or is it luck of the draw? I want bigger than .177 but I think .25 is overkill for me punching paper and plinking (some small pest work). I spoke with Crosman CS today and I asked about the .22 accuracy problems. They did say there were more .22 returns with accuracy problems than the other calibers, but it didnt seem like it was a huge amount more. They did say they were trying to figure out the issue. They did seem very willing to help the owner work out any issues. I have been VERY impressed with the customer service at Crosman!
Are the issues with the .22 something that would carry over if a caliber change was done in the future? Is it barrel/shroud related??
I still think Im gonna go with the .22....I dont know ???
I thought just buying the Marauder regardless of caliber was a no-brainer for me, now Im second guessing myself... :-[
Also, where do you get diver's silicone?
I also plan to put many rounds through this gun before I touch any of the factory settings. I not that eager to change things. I was just mentioning things in my original post that I have been hearing about.
I look forward to any more help and opinions you all can offer
Thanks
Shawn
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The .25 Caliber has a better Barrel on the Mrod.I have a .25 and for a few bucks more at AOA they are $439 for the .25 and
$399 for the .177 or .22, Spend the $39 extra and the.25 will always sell down the line better. Plus you can shoot paper
targets or hunt. The .25 has more to offer and the accuracy is awesome, So is the power. You will not regret the .25 over
the .177 or .22 Caliber. Go with the .25 Caliber. Read what all Mrod owners say on Marauder Air Rifle.com. All the .177 & .22 are
for sale on that site. All Mrod owners are trading in for the larger Caliber one. Read for yourself why , and for what reasons.
Jetman.
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This is such a hard decision for me. I was so set on .22, now I dont know. The .25 sounds great with the better barrel and out of the box accuracy. Only problem is I'll be hand pumping it and ammo is more expensive and not available locally. Plus I just cant imagine using .25 for nothing but paper punching. Seems like a waste of its power.
Help me figure this out... ??? :D
I appreciate all help/opinions
Thanks,
Shawn
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Mainly for target shooting ? ....177 all the way
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I would like to shoot out to maybe 65 yards (length of the back yard). Will .177 group well at that range? Do .177 Marauders seem to be fairly accurate??
I had heard that the .22 holds better groups at distance?? Just repeating what I heard, I dont really know
Shawn
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50-60 yard shots with my .22 Marauder are EASY, To actually challenge myself and the gun I like shooting at 100 yards.
Even my Discovery was making the same shots @ 100 yards, pretty much all these guns can do it, it all depends on the person behind the trigger.
if the britts are doing just fine with their 12fpe guns, and making 200 meter shots ( check youtube! ) Then we better be able to make 100 yard shots with 20+fpe guns
http://www.youtube.com/user/cubleycat#p/u/23/WMCiMk6w_wU (http://www.youtube.com/user/cubleycat#p/u/23/WMCiMk6w_wU)
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Having just picked up a .22 Calibre Marauder and having had my Evaniz Blizzard for some time... buy the Evanix. Blizzard or Rainstorm would be good. The Blizzard is head and shoulders better shooting for me than the Marauder - and the Marauder is not bad at all.
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If target shooting will be the primary function of the gun with some occasional pesting.. and since you will be pumping, how about a Disco .22? The disco only needs to be filled to 2,000psi max. The Marauder 3k psi. You will be pumping less with the Discovery and it's still a 20fpe gun with good power for hunting. The Disco should not have any problems with .177 or .22.
I would not get .25cal if you are going to do a lot paper punching. The ammo is more expensive and you will need good backstops because the .25 pellets demand stronger and bigger backstops.
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If target shooting will be the primary function of the gun with some occasional pesting.. and since you will be pumping, how about a Disco .22? The disco only needs to be filled to 2,000psi max. The Marauder 3k psi. You will be pumping less with the Discovery and it's still a 20fpe gun with good power for hunting. The Disco should not have any problems with .177 or .22.
I would not get .25cal if you are going to do a lot paper punching. The ammo is more expensive and you will need good backstops because the .25 pellets demand stronger and bigger backstops.
Thanks for the reply. I looked at the Disco, but I just really like the Marauder. I will be pumping to start but plan to add a scuba setup as soon as possible. Overall I just like the MRod better.
I just cant decide on caliber ???
Shawn
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I will say it to the end! ...Choose the option in the middle 8)
.177, ( .22 ) , .25
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Another thing to mention is that there may well have been a few .22 caliber versions with barrels with imperfections.
It sounds as if the current crop of them is as good as you would want.
Another thing to consider is to use the J-B Bore Paste technique to very lightly polish the bore, of course taking all necessary precautions to ensure the paste does not get into the seals or baffles.
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That's what I'm trying to find out. Are the new .22s okay, is there still an issue...? The .25 sounds great, it is just way too overkill for my needs. I like the .22s heavier weight for long distance.
I guess it all depends on how much I find out about the current crop of .22s before I have to make a decision
i am still looking for opinions. I know I am hammering this into the ground, it's just that this is a big investment for me.
I appreciate all the help
Shawn
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I would buy the .22 Marauder.
I have one of the first ones made, and there is nothing wrong with it. It shoots great! In your shoes, I would buy it with confidence, many times over a .25.
I really want a .25 but I am a sick person with way too many airguns. I have lots of .22s and they are the most versatile caliber, with the most choices in ammo. When you get bored with .22s or are assailed by very large vermin, that is the time to get into the quarter-bores. I wouldn't buy a .25 just to get a quality barrel, because the stock .22 barrels are generally fine. You can get an aftermarket LW barrel if you really think it needs it.
Basically, I think you want one anyway, and you may as well just scratch the itch. Crosman will back it up, and there will be plenty of buyers if you decide to sell down the road. The Marauders by and large have been very good.
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Just wanted to thank everyone for their replies and help.
I'll let you know what I decide
Thanks,
Shawn
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PA1911, I just wanted to add, here are a few pics. 5 shots taken at 30 yrds with .22 Marauder and this is can be accomplished at any time. Factory settings with Wallyworld Crosman tin pellets. You can take plenty of raccoons and squirrels if you are going to hunt with it. If not, punching paper will not be a problem.
Keith.