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Airguns by Make and Model => Benjamin Airguns => Topic started by: AllanWJ on February 04, 2012, 04:31:07 PM

Title: Steroid chrony results
Post by: AllanWJ on February 04, 2012, 04:31:07 PM
Thought some fellow 392 Steroid owners might be interested in this. I guess this is gonna date me, but I dug out my old chrony from 1995 (mighta been 1993). :) It's been sitting at a friend's house for the last 5 years but fired right up with a fresh battery. I had mounted the sensors on a 24 inch c2c distance for accuracy, which is what Pact recommended back then. I know the technology has probably gotten better, but I suspect it's still within a percent or two.

(http://www.lakerfly.com/images/pact1web.jpg)

(http://www.lakerfly.com/images/pact2web.jpg)

I ran three 5-shot strings thru it with JSB 18gr Exacts and came up with these averages (rounded):

8 pumps   - 652 fps  @ 17fpe
10 pumps - 691 fps  @ 19fpe
12 pumps - 722 fps  @ 21fpe

12 pumps left a good amount of air in the chamber and the gun is stacking pellets nicely at 8 pumps so it looks like plenty of fpe for it's pest control duties. I'll check it out with 15gr Exacts but they haven't shot quite as well as the 18gr.

Title: Re: Steroid chrony results
Post by: thekid on February 04, 2012, 05:09:34 PM
That sucker will rain on any critters parade.
Nice chrony setup, good pic's.
Rob
Title: Re: Steroid chrony results
Post by: BenjiHunter on February 04, 2012, 08:29:26 PM
I get about the same numbers from my Steroid.
Title: Re: Steroid chrony results
Post by: AllanWJ on February 05, 2012, 10:48:51 AM
I get about the same numbers from my Steroid.

Thanks for the corroboration Stefan. I can't imagine why the old chrony would not work after all these years, but I also don't really know how to go about calibrating it either. It looks like the Steroid gets the published specs from Benjamin at 8 pumps but with a heavier pellet. Nice!


Title: Re: Steroid chrony results
Post by: badredbird on February 05, 2012, 02:00:54 PM
i have a pair of these roids, they like the heavier pellets for sure ,  mine dont leave air in tho only if its above 12 pumps  12 and under , so i am curious about that
Title: Re: Steroid chrony results
Post by: BenjiHunter on February 05, 2012, 02:35:11 PM
Mine left air in it after 12 pumps and it's not suppose to do that with light pellets, so Tim put a new valve in it.
Now it only leaves air in it over 12 pumps. It dumps all air when I pump 12 times. But it all depends on the pellet weight.
Title: Re: Steroid chrony results
Post by: badredbird on February 05, 2012, 03:05:20 PM
does it leave more air with a heavier pellet or lighter?  my guns are about broken in hey shoot nice, have a bunch of 312s and 342 s too , now if i use eun jins and pump it 14 times it will some air , i find about 10 pumps with a 15gr jsb it prints really nice out to 45 yds 
Title: Re: Steroid chrony results
Post by: BenjiHunter on February 05, 2012, 03:34:27 PM
A heavy pellet leave more air in it than a light one.
Title: Re: Steroid chrony results
Post by: AllanWJ on February 05, 2012, 04:31:28 PM
It's a little hard to tell, but the 21gr and 14gr that I have both seem to leave about the same amount of air. Feels like 1-1/2 pumps. More than 1 but not two. All 4 pellet weights that I have dump all the air at 10 pumps.

I'm okay with it the way it is. I like the way it's shooting at 8 pumps so 12 isn't something I'll even want to use. It's way too much work. :)
 
Title: Re: Steroid chrony results
Post by: BenjiHunter on February 05, 2012, 04:54:58 PM
You do know that max pumps are 14 on a steroid, not 12 ? ;)
Title: Re: Steroid chrony results
Post by: AllanWJ on February 05, 2012, 05:15:58 PM
Yep. I think I need the steroids more than it does. :)
Title: Re: Steroid chrony results
Post by: badredbird on February 05, 2012, 05:24:23 PM
mine will leave air at 14 when shooting those 32 grain eun jins , was curious tho why it would leave air below 12 pumps, it is a workout to pump it 14 times but with those heavy pellets it packs a nice punch curious to see if mr hollowpoint 2 heads would work in one of them
Title: Re: Steroid chrony results
Post by: BenjiHunter on February 05, 2012, 05:49:27 PM
Yep. I think I need the steroids more than it does. :)
:D
Title: Re: Steroid chrony results
Post by: AllanWJ on February 05, 2012, 06:08:10 PM
mine will leave air at 14 when shooting those 32 grain eun jins , was curious tho why it would leave air below 12 pumps, it is a workout to pump it 14 times but with those heavy pellets it packs a nice punch curious to see if mr hollowpoint 2 heads would work in one of them

I don't know. Small differences in the re-worked valves maybe??? This gun is one-holing at 8 pumps with plenty of fpe for its intended use so I'm good with it. All this pumping has helped me make a decision on my next airgun though. I may buy a Discovery, but I ain't gonna buy the pump with it. :)

 
Title: Re: Steroid chrony results
Post by: tkerrigan on February 05, 2012, 07:38:44 PM
Discos are neat, I have about 3 or so. With an 88 cu ft tank, you can shoot for a year or so.
                                                         Regards, Tom  Jefferson, OR
Title: Re: Steroid chrony results
Post by: badredbird on February 05, 2012, 09:11:15 PM
yeah i like my disco also , they arent too bad to pump, but i would definately get a scuba setup  , those tko s are nice too especially squirrell hunting, they have no clue what happened , doesnt spook multiple squirrellls
Title: Re: Steroid chrony results
Post by: AllanWJ on February 06, 2012, 02:59:13 AM
Discos are neat, I have about 3 or so. With an 88 cu ft tank, you can shoot for a year or so.
                                                         Regards, Tom  Jefferson, OR

Hey Tom - we're almost neighbors.  Where do you get your tanks filled? The closest dive shop is in Salem as far as I know. Industrial Weld in Albany has 6KPsi nitrogen for 140.00 a fill and 8.00 a month rent on the bottle. I'd probably go that route myself. They're aware of airgun use by the way - kinda nice to not have to explain it to them. :)

I'm actually leaning more toward a Marauder. If I bought the Disco I'd want the BNM breech too and a better trigger so I'd be up to the cost of the Mrod right out of the gate. 


Title: Re: Steroid chrony results
Post by: tkerrigan on February 06, 2012, 12:20:12 PM
I have a compressor so no problem on air, I have a couple of marauders if you want to try them out and one of my discos is a 10 shot.  Give me a call if you want to get together.  541 nine7nine 1717.
Title: Re: Steroid chrony results
Post by: Millipede on February 06, 2012, 07:18:36 PM
Discos are neat, I have about 3 or so. With an 88 cu ft tank, you can shoot for a year or so.
                                                         Regards, Tom  Jefferson, OR

Hey Tom - we're almost neighbors.  Where do you get your tanks filled? The closest dive shop is in Salem as far as I know. Industrial Weld in Albany has 6KPsi nitrogen for 140.00 a fill and 8.00 a month rent on the bottle. I'd probably go that route myself. They're aware of airgun use by the way - kinda nice to not have to explain it to them. :)

I'm actually leaning more toward a Marauder. If I bought the Disco I'd want the BNM breech too and a better trigger so I'd be up to the cost of the Mrod right out of the gate. 


how weird, i live in albany too.... 

there must be two welding suppliers in albany because i get my oxy tanks filled about once a week and ive asked them about compressed air for air rifles. they didnt seem to have much to say about it...
Title: Re: Steroid chrony results
Post by: AllanWJ on February 07, 2012, 11:25:47 AM
Millipede - not sure who you spoke with but the guy I talked to knew exactly what I wanted it for. He knew about the local dive shop closures and said he's had a number of inquiries for the larger capacity setups. Either way, 6kpsi nitrogen is available from them. They have 2kpsi bottles in the shop and don't have the 6kpsi on hand, but no problem getting them.


   
Title: Re: Steroid chrony results
Post by: tkerrigan on February 07, 2012, 01:32:57 PM
The advantage on the disco is top fill of 2000#, dive tank works well with them. If you get the nitrogen tank, the rifle charging hose and connectors will cost about $140, and it is much safer to be able to regulate the pressure down, so think about a reg also.  Regards, Tom
Title: Re: Steroid chrony results
Post by: AllanWJ on February 07, 2012, 11:28:35 PM
The advantage on the disco is top fill of 2000#, dive tank works well with them. If you get the nitrogen tank, the rifle charging hose and connectors will cost about $140, and it is much safer to be able to regulate the pressure down, so think about a reg also.  Regards, Tom

Yeah Tom, it's a tough decision. After feeling the weight differences between the Marauder and the Disco, I'm leaning back toward the Disco and a scuba tank. And I wouldn't even consider the nitrogen without a regulator.

Thanks again for taking the time to give me a look at your setup - it very helpful.

Title: Re: Steroid chrony results
Post by: tkerrigan on February 08, 2012, 12:53:08 AM
Right now, Walmart has the disco .22 with pump for sale at $299. Then sell the pump for $130-140 and have one cheap disco.  Whoops, they sold out after I looked.  They have this price quite often.  http://www.walmart.com/ip/Benjamim-Discovery-.22-Caliber-PCP-Powered-Carbine-with-High-Pressure-Hand-Pump/14234837 (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Benjamim-Discovery-.22-Caliber-PCP-Powered-Carbine-with-High-Pressure-Hand-Pump/14234837)  Regards, Tom
Title: Re: Steroid chrony results
Post by: AllanWJ on February 08, 2012, 01:07:25 AM
I already looked for that one. I was a little bummed.  :-[  I took a quick trip to the new Walmart tonight - I think it opened on Jan 25. Not much of a sporting goods department.