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Airguns by Make and Model => Diana Airguns => Topic started by: Bowguy on January 31, 2012, 09:53:25 PM
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I just placed an order for an RWS 48 and expect to receive it in a few days. My question is there anything I should do to this rifle before shooting? I see some suggestions to clean before shooting. Clean what? If the answer is the barrel, fine. If anything else, how should this cleaning be done. No string compressor so I'd be limited as to how much I could do (I suppose).
I'm really looking forward to having this gun and want to do everything necessary to have a great shooter.
Thanks, Bob
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that should be all that is needed but if you could get it apart and lube it correctly that would be good ! :P
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I'm sure you'll love it. You made a good choice.
Richard
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good choice, you will have a great shooter. which calibre did you choose?
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Went with the .22 I spend a lot of time target shooting with firearms and plan the same with this rifle along with some local varmint control.
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heck yeah!
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nice gun bowguy as for the cleaning go to youtube and punch in rws 1000 shot cleaning vid and you can try that
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Congrats.........very good, well built, accurate gun.........enjoy it......if you fall in love with it, consider a full tune to pull out all it's potential and pleasure...
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In addition to the barrel, thoroughly degrease the scope rail. Get the best glass and scope mount you can afford, and do the same to them. A droop compensating mount is best, since most 48's have some droop (mine does). You will want a stop pin in the mount.
It's a great gun. It's also a notorious scope slammer. You need that sucker rock solid with lots of "purchase" on the mounting surfaces. Blue loc-tite on the mounting threads. As long as the scope stays immobile, you'll be in good shape, assuming the scope is heavy recoil springer rated. This is a challenging rifle for scopes.
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Congrats on the new shooter. Your gunna love it. Once the barrel is good and clean shoot the snot out of it have a ton of fun then when ya wanna make it better get a vortek pg2 kit for it. Good luck and let us know what ya think.
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Thanks for all the comments and suggestions, I'll definitely take a look at the youtube vid. Scheduled to arrive tomorrow. Can't wait!!! Yeah, I've been lurking around here enough to pick up on the possible scope issues. Funny, I have scopes on rather large bore rifles that could possibly be ruined by this air rifle. Makes sense when you consider the difference in recoil cycle.
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I picked up an older D48 but in .177 with a T01 trigger. I also bought a D54 T06 in 22.
I recommend the BKL260-D7 mount. Too bad they only offer it in a 1 inch scope tube size. Its abit more $$ than the RWS Lockdown. I also have the RWS Lockdown mounts they both work.
If you have a straight one piece scope mount I would mount it up and with a centered scope shoot a target and see how much droop you have. I think to get scope life and performance your scope need to be as close to center when zeroed or at least its center third of adjustment range.
You hear people saying they keep breaking scopes on D48, 52 and 54 ....then you hear others saying its no trouble at all. My theory is the ones that keep breaking them are running scopes near end of adjustment ranges
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Tom, where can I find the scope mount you recommend? BTY I have done a search on spring compressors and have came across a couple that look to be well thought out. Plan to build one shortly.
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Congrats on a fine choice. I have a 48 in .20 cal and the rifle is just plain awesome :)
Jeff
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Bowguy you can also get a "UTG" brand mount that is made for the 48. It is a picatinny top rail that has a front stop that hangs over the edge of the factory rail, as well as a stop screw, that eliminates any scope movement...period. You can mount your rings anywhere you want them, for your best eye relief, that way. Get a set of 4screw rings (picatinny), and you are all set. PA sells them. I use them, and really think they're hard to beat.
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Drooped Mounts
BKL 260-D7 Claimed 24 MOA
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/bkl-1-pc-mount-4-long-1-rings-3-8-or-11mm-dovetail-6-base-screws-007?a=2895 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/bkl-1-pc-mount-4-long-1-rings-3-8-or-11mm-dovetail-6-base-screws-007?a=2895)
RWS Lockdown Claimed measurement calculates to 18 MOA(also availabe in 30mm tube)
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/rws-lock-down-1-pc-mount-w-1-rings-11mm-dovetail-barrel-droop?a=2406 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/rws-lock-down-1-pc-mount-w-1-rings-11mm-dovetail-barrel-droop?a=2406)
Leapers Straight mount, great to use when checking to see how much droop rifle actually has....very reasonable in price
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/leapers-accushot-1-pc-mount-w-1-rings-3-8-dovetail?a=805 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/leapers-accushot-1-pc-mount-w-1-rings-3-8-dovetail?a=805)
The other two Leapers with droop compensation are adapters dovetail to Weaver. Couple versions both have ALOT of droop built in. Scope hieght ends up WAY above boreline so no cheekweld is possible.
UTG DN34=about 65.8 MOA
UTG DN460= about 54 MOA
Too much droop built in for rifle is as bad for scope as not enough puts scope at end of adjustment range
other threads on subject
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php/topic,24854.0.html (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php/topic,24854.0.html)
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php/topic,22745.0.html (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php/topic,22745.0.html)
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I use the UTG #DN460. For my old 48 and my 52. Didn't have to use much scope adjustment at all to get them centered. I also used the UTG picatinny 4 screw scope rings.
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Bowguy you can also get a "UTG" brand mount that is made for the 48. It is a picatinny top rail that has a front stop that hangs over the edge of the factory rail, as well as a stop screw, that eliminates any scope movement...period.
I've used the UTG drooper mounts on two rifles. One was the RWS 48. On both rifles, the "hang-down" part contacted the receiver where it shouldn't have. On mine, it was the "left corner" of the hang-down part.
To see if yours is a problem, take a sheet of paper and attempt to slide it under the hang-down part. It should clear. If not, take a file, Dremel, or some other tool and remove a small amount of metal from the UTG.
EDIT: I'm editing my post because I in no way intended it to sound negative toward the UTG. I use them and like them. It is just that they needed the above modification to fit properly.
DON
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I have 4 of the utg mounts and not 1 problem with them. Put it on lock tight the screws and forget about it. Love mine and at $17 thats nothing.
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only thing i could say is shoot it alot, they take same time to break in , i have it in both 22 and 177 once they break in they are tack drivers utg is way to go for scope
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Thanks to everyone for all the great information. The rifle arrived today and what a fine looking rifle it is. After the recomended cleaning, I'll be more than a little anxious to get in some serious trigger time.
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Spysir hit the nail on the head! The t06 rail is about an inch longer than the to5. Forgot bout that. My 470 is the same way and i had to flip the utg rail around backwards and grind out the stop pin hole a little. Might go with the bkl or hawke set up if you you dont want to mod the stop pin hole.
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Like I've seen here before, the bore of this new rifle was anything but clean. After enough patches it appeared to be clean so time for its first trip to the backyard range. After about fifty shots I began to get the hang of the cocking, loading, shooting cycle. I already know I'm going to get along just fine with Mr. 48
I do have a question though, after this shooting session while wiping the gun I noticed some chaffing marks on the chrome section. I suppose it's considered the chamber?? I'm fairly sure these marks were not there before. Any thing to be concerned about?
Thanks, Bob
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Post some pics if you can of the scratches. My 470 has a few wear marks on the breech cover that sides in and out of the reciever of the gun. If its getting gouged its a a problem but if its just small lite wear marks i wouldnt worry.
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A closer look I can see the wear marks are very light, no gouges or scratches. Possible that it was there all along but I hadn't noticed before cleaning. Actually, I have to get the light just so before this is visible. With a jeweled surface it would be impossible to see. I'll check on how to post pictures....
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the only way to correct that is to take the gun apart and polish the receiver tube, the shiny part is called the sliding compression tube, as it pulls into the receiver it gets the scratches because there's probably a burr on the edge of the receiver tube! :P
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Make sense Mark, I'll need to check youtube, etc. to get steps on taking it apart. I feel comfortable doing most everything to firearms but this is a new breed for me. I do appreciate the help from everyone here.
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RWS guns are pretty easy to take apart and put back together it can be done with a 36'' bar clamp from the hardware store as long as one end has at least 6'' of travel {a screw out end and an adjustable sliding end} :P
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spysir, thanks for the link. It does have the T-06 trigger. Plans to spend a lot of time shooting is put on hold for a couple of days . Did manage to put a little over 100 pellets through it. Once I look at the link I may better understand the significance of the dummy pins.
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Update on the new rifle. Not as much time as I had hoped but have a couple hundered shots now. Although the trigger pull out of the box was not at all bad,. In fact, I put about 175 pellets through the rifle and was fairly happy with it. Generally, I like a light trigger pull, somewhat lighter than how this trigger was. I adjusted the pull more to what I'm use to, 2 lbs. Afterwards I did notice an improvment in groups. With the few shots through the gun so far, I'm happy with the groups. At 30 yards 10 shot groups run between 3/4 to one inch.
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once the gun breaks in should ,be one ragged hole at 30 the gun is a tack driver broken in , every summer we shoot cherry tomatoes off of pop cans at 50 yds , good power too
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Ya ll keep talking about the UTG droop mounts being put on the new 48s and they have the T06 trigger. Did they change it because at PA it says that they won't fit the rifles that have the T06 trigger because the rail is to long. I'm asking because I'm planning on getting one shortly. The UTG is the cheapest but the BLK has more screws, 6 screws to 3 on the UTG. PA is putting the UTG mount with Weaver rings on the 48 Striker which is the only way to go I think because it gives you the scope and mount. It is a good set up but if the mount doesn't fit you have to waist time sending it and the weaver rings back or waiting for replacement. Rickey
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Looks like they still carry one for the 48???
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/utg-scope-mount-base-fits-rws-diana-48-52-54-460-magnum-with-to5?a=2297 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/utg-scope-mount-base-fits-rws-diana-48-52-54-460-magnum-with-to5?a=2297)
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Guess that didn't help too much.