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Airguns by Make and Model => Weihrauch Airguns => Topic started by: maxfax on January 18, 2012, 09:39:53 AM
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Any experience with this rifle? I'm in the difficult process of trying to get my first quality air rifle, and I came across this one, the (?) most powerful break-barrel HW. I'm looking for a .22 with power to be able to hit targets at a distance, but from what I understand, the more powerful the more difficult to shoot accurately, and accuracy counts more than power for me. It has a gas ram which I believe makes it smoother to shoot. So, any advice?
Rob
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I have the earlier RX in .20. Haven't messed with it much lately beyond fixing a stuck safety, etc, and test firing it in the basement. That said, it felt like about the best tuned full power springer I have shot. No twang or torque. The trigger in these is not a Rekord but a very nice hunting trigger. Not so sure how much it is adjustable - see a recent thread here - but mine is set to where it takes very little to let it go. I think you will be pleased with it.
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I've had the .25 caliber for several months now. 1st, it's not more difficult to shoot. If anything, it's easier to shoot well. It groups better than some of my springers because it is smoother. I've left the trigger as is because it shoots so well right out of the box. It almost seems as if it was a full tune. With it's open sights I can take down rabbits at 30- 40 yards using H&N 19.9gr FTT's. Have not put the scope on it yet as it does so well. I'm really happy with it. ;D ;D
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Great guns. But meant more for hunting than target shooting. If you wanted to shoot distant targets you'd be better off lessening the power level to tame the power down some and learn the trajectory curve. I keep my .20 RX1 to the 14 fpe for this very reason,...a docile shot cycle,....but I limit most of my shooting to the 30 to 40 yard range so the trajectory is still rather flat. At 18 to 20 fpe it is an absolute laser at 40 yards !!!! ;)
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Wow, these are some good testimonials. I don't hunt, but want the power to hit distant targets for the fun of it, as long as it is accurate to hit them. This gun has now made my short list!
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You might check out the HW98/R11 for your target shooting needs instead. If you have ever shot a 10 meter rifle like an FWB 600 with all the adjustments available with the stock, then the 98 would be ideal. They are also now being made in .20 and .22 if you prefer the larger calibers. They can also be power tuned for distance shooting using the various kits available from ARH, Vortek, etc. The HW90 and the HW98 are both around the same price range if I'm not mistaken. Hth's
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Ahab,
I see you have a Discovery. How would you compare your experience with the HW90 as compared to the Discovery. If you had a choice of one, which would it be?
Rob
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Ahab,
I see you have a Discovery. How would you compare your experience with the HW90 as compared to the Discovery. If you had a choice of one, which would it be?
Rob
Probably the HW90. It is more consistant and has a great trigger. Out of the box much more accurate. But then it cost twice as much and is .25 caliber.
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The 98/R11 is certainly a nice rifle but not in the same power league as the RX series. And it is a wound wire gun, meaning you will have to tame it down a good bit.
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Not nessecarily so RF. Who needs high power to punch paper. Even at longer ranges, there are plenty of great choices in moderate powered spring guns that can 'reach out' and strike targets with excellent results. Springers like the R9, FWB Sporters, TX's, some of the UK Webleys, as well as some of the HW's etc. All spring guns and all tunable to different levels of performance. You don't really need high power for great accuracy at long ranges. Just a great gun ;) My .22 Diana shoots RWS sd's at 700 fps and is as easy a shooter as you'll ever find. And very accurate I might add. Clover leafs at 30 is normal off the picnic table.
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He is asking for a higher powered gun to start with. Plus he wants to extend his range a bit.
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I'd also take a look at the RWS 48 and 460mag they have as much or more power than the HW90! and are great for long range shooting! ya you may have to tune it so what but their also easier to maintain and rebuild! and their very user friendly and easy to shoot well! and their lighter to carry around just my 2ct :P
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Wow- nice shooting for 75 yards!
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Max. I have two main reasons why I've suggested lesser powerful ags than what you have mentionned in regards to the RX, and the other rifles suggested by the other posters, and these are the reasons why I have taken this stance.
As a general rule,.. And I say that rather loosely, the higher the power of an air gun (springers that is), the higher the difficulty it is to shoot them accurately. Why?!? Because they are mechanical in nature and there is a lot of movement during the shot cycle. The higher the power the more of this movement one will encounter. Magnum springers are generally heavy, and that is to absorb as much movement and shot cycle 'shock' as possible. Heavy ags can get old real quick!!
The second reason for my suggestion is this. You stated that you are looking for your first serious adult air rifle. That threw up an immediate red flag to me. Many veteran AG shooters often try to dissuade the newer AG enthusiast from going straight to magnum power air rifles for the same reasons I've mentionned earlier. Many folks have gone out and purchased mag shooters like the Diana 350's, Gamo extremes, etc and find they cannot shoot them worth a "dang". Then they leave the hobby with a sour taste in their mouths. It takes time and practice to master the technique of shooting magnum spring guns. I will add that your choice of the RX rifle is probably the best option you could have chosen for a magnum air rifle. Kudo's to you on that. You did your research well.
I'm not trying to argue with RF and Mark at all. They have both offered great suggestions for you to choose from. I take a lot of stock in what both of these gentleman say in terms of ags. I consider Mark one of my best Airgun friends. And yes, they both answered your question in regards to your question .... A powerful air rifle. So I will follow suit and say that my recommendation would be for the RX rifle. They are great guns.
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I agree with Tom 100% you don't need a super magnum to do what you want! and as a matter of fact I don't even own a super magnum AG anymore! I have just as much funn with my AA Pro Sports and my HW97k's and can shoot them more accurately then any of the super mag's I've owned! I don't know what your def of long range shooting is but I have no problems of taking birds and rabbits with my 700fps AG out to 75yds with my .22cal springers and 100+yds with my .177cal Pro Sports and 97k"s, I think alot of new airgunners way under estimate the power of todays airguns. It takes time to master shooting an airgun and as Tom has said if you start off wrong with something hard to shoot you'll probably give up on it like Tom has said, the only reason I can shoot them like I do is because I have years behind the trigger with them! I find that a mid powered springer if set up correctly are far more capable of long range accuracy than a cannon with harsh recoil, a mid powered springer IMO is the only way to go, I can kill anything with them that I can do with a super magnum because it's all about shot placement! putting the pellet where you want it is more important than just trying to take something with raw power if you can hit it! so like I said I agree with Tom, :P
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In my research for a new .22 rifle, the HW97k, AA ProSport and TX200 are my top choices. I want to hit targets with reasonble accuracy up to 50 metres, and from what you say, these guns will do it. I don't want a struggle or get frustrated, so one of these three it will be.
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I would look no further! if you want accuracy those are the rifles! :P
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Don't forget the RX-2 ;) 20 fpe is a sweet shooting power setting!!!!! ;)
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tjk,
How easy is it to shoot the rx-2, and how is the accuracy?
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Max. The RX is a very easy gun to shoot. The trigger is very well designned and not a big hindrance for a lot of folks. The "Rekord" trigger found on the Weihrauch is better by design and function,... but only if adjusted and set correctly. That's the catch ;). I think the firing cycle of the RX/HW90 series rifles is their biggest attribute and advantage over wire sprung air rifles. I guess that old cliche really applies in this case,...'you just have to experience it yourself to appreciate it'. Best wishes to you Max, no matter what route you choose. I hope the only best for you and the air gun you decide to choose !!!! Some how, I doubt this will be your last AG anyways!!!! ;)
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Thanks everyone for the advice. You are right, the hw90 or tx200, which ever I get, won't be the last.
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Max,
I have a RX2 .22 and a Prosport .22. Both are very accur. and great to shot. The RX2 will take a little longer for you to master. I detuned mine to 760fps for a smoother firing cycle and to keep it from eating scopes. Hope this helps you. Craig