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Support Equipment For PCP/HPA/CO2 and springers ,rams => Tuners => Topic started by: Brookesy on January 16, 2025, 03:57:45 AM

Title: I need an air guru
Post by: Brookesy on January 16, 2025, 03:57:45 AM
I'm a little perplexed.

I have a hatsan at44-10 which for some reason has lost power. ( can't identify why )
In my investigation I shaped out my full size transfer port for one about half the size and saw a near 300fps increase in speed.

Far as I know that shouldn't be the case. Anyone care to educate me a little?
Title: Re: I need an air guru
Post by: Jim-in-UK on January 16, 2025, 05:47:27 AM
The narrower port is allowing more efficient expansion of the air into the barrel, liberating more of the air's internal 'U' energy which, in springers, I believe can account for up to 40% of muzzle energy.
Title: Re: I need an air guru
Post by: ER00z on January 16, 2025, 07:20:15 AM
I'm no guru...

I'd give your o-rings a look. One just in the barrel leade may be worn or missing, think there are two on the valve... might need a bit of silicone grease or replacing. Depending on how many shots through the gun, the hammer spring may have settled or fatigued. Those older Hatsan designs (AT44, BT65 and etc.) were massively over ported... Reducing transfer port diameter might just be reducing the pressure drop between valve and pellet... Essentially "hitting" the pellet a little harder from the start, although with less volume (Simpler explanation to what Jim-in-UK posted, more or less).
Title: Re: I need an air guru
Post by: JPSAXNC on January 16, 2025, 07:53:37 AM
As mentioned, the bigger the transfer port the lower the pressure, and the slower the air speed through the transfer port.
Title: Re: I need an air guru
Post by: Brookesy on January 17, 2025, 02:07:28 AM
Wouldn't the lower air pressure from the larger port by irrelevant because of the speed of the air delivery? (more air behind the pellet quicker)
 
Title: Re: I need an air guru
Post by: JPSAXNC on May 11, 2025, 09:51:35 AM
The issue with transfer port size, is volume and pressure. There's an optimum transfer port size to get the highest air speed through the transfer port, at any given pressure. You didn't say why you thought the gun has lost power, or if you changed anything before it lost power?