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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => European/Asian Air Gun Gates => German AirGun Gate => Topic started by: Cslinger on October 28, 2024, 09:34:19 PM
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I don't shoot my FWB Sport too often. Its a bit loud for my indoor range and I tend to prefer my more mellow guns but I have liked my Sport since day one and its always been fantastically accurate for me. I pulled it out tonight to run a few shots through it and here are my first two "cold groups" after not having shot this gun in a VERY long time. Like I said, I forget how accurate this rifle is.
(https://i.imgur.com/FD6EhYLh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xZreVrSh.jpg)
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Wow.
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Beautiful gun & groups.
Thanks for sharing.
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Yeah, couldn't agree more. Great shooting.
No way will I ever sell mine and that's why.
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These guns are absolute lasers. Crazy how accurate they are after months of neglect sitting on the gun rack. I had mine out in freezing weather the other evening. 4 sighters, a bit low. Two clicks up and now high!. Two clicks back down and one hole in a mild breeze, 19 yards.
Oh My!
Good Looking Too!
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I have two of the newer sports and two of the older 124D, the first bought in early 1975. When I got that first 124 I was in the USAF in base housing and really did not have a good place to shoot. I made a backstop/pellet trap and would shoot from one bedroom down the hall and across another bedroom, using a dining room chair for a rest. It was easy to get ragged one hole groups. Then I got one of the Williams receiver sights and they really shrunk in size, sometimes it would seem like 3-5 shots in one tiny hole. Separated from the service and put a Beeman 3-9 on it and cleaned our new yard in E Texas of gophers. Years went by and my only other acquisition was a full target model 300s. Well got the house paid for, and our son through university and law school and then bought the two Sports, about a year apart and a very nice 124D about the same age as my original and all are absolute lasers. One of the 124's has a scope as does one Sport, the other sport has a Gehmann aperture sight and it is really fantastic. At age 79 in two more days I still enjoy shooting those iron sights more than scopes.
There are several things I like about the new Sport vs the 124D, the quality of the factory rear sight, the machined resettable safety, and the trigger. My original 125 has a safety that is so stiff that it is almost impossible to reset it, the new one is fine. That original in the 49 years I have had it has had an extremely stiff safety, and I have had the gun rebuilt twice and it remains the same. The oly thing I do not like about the sport is that they are hard to break open to cock, much more effort than the 124.
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I'm a little behind you in years, but only a little. Congrats on still using iron sights. That's impressive.
I like those Sport features, too, especially the safety. Much prefer the Sport safety to my HWs. Not that I have any trouble with the HW safety. It's just that the Sport is just more convenient and easier to use.
I have two of the new Sports. After being blown away by the accuracy of the first one, I added another one as soon as we could afford it. Both have been identical in terms of accuracy, but I still shoot the first one more because it is scoped. The second one serves more or less as a backup when I want to shoot iron sights.
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Yes, I feel lucky. Will turn 79 tomorrow and still love the iron sights. My wife and I both had cataract surgery about 3 years ago and it did help. I was nearsighted and now can shoot iron sights without glasses, although after wearing them for for about 65 years I went ahead and got progressives with basically reading glasses for the bottom and plain glass for the uppers so I am not always looking for glasses. Back in the early-mid 60's I got on a college ROTC smallbore rifle team and learned to shoot the match aperature sights and have always gravitated back to them. Back in the mid 80's I got a true match rifle, for the day, a FWB 300s with excellent aperture sights, and prior to that had put a Williams on my FWB 124. Now some, actually most of the HW rifles that are not scope only have Anschutz match sights mounted, along with Gehmann adjustable apertures. Basically if I can see the target through the aperture and the gun is zeroed properly I can hit it, of course scopes are much better on small targets at longer ranges simply because you can see them better.
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You guys are really making me lust over an FWB Sport or 124. I should have grabbed one when they were going out of production.
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Wow.
Bought a sport 3-4 years ago and loved it. When aoa was selling out I bought another and left it in the box. Great rifles!
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I am notorious for buying one for optics and one for irons, but I only have this one Sport. Even though I am not a huge leaf sight fan the irons on the Sport are indeed excellent.
I have been shooting it this week and it’s hard screw up with this gun.
I was lucky enough to snag mine on the cheap….ish. :)
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You guys are really making me lust over an FWB Sport or 124. I should have grabbed one when they were going out of production.
Watch a lot of the classified on some of these forums, as well as eBay, gunbroker, ect. About six weeks ago I found that second 124 on ebay, no sights, but a recently tuned gun in excellent shape.
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I am notorious for buying one for optics and one for irons, but I only have this one Sport. Even though I am not a huge leaf sight fan the irons on the Sport are indeed excellent.
I have been shooting it this week and it’s hard screw up with this gun.
I was lucky enough to snag mine on the cheap….ish. :)
I find myself doing some of the same, or to have two in different calibers. The Sport and 124s have irons and optics, a couple of HW 35e, and 57s are different calibers.
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If I may ask, what are you using for a scope mount setup? Initially I had a lot of scope creep but now am using BKL mounts plus Sportsmatch scope stop. That seems to be holding, but have not fired it enough to yield definitive results.
Excellent groups, by the way
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IIRC, the mount is a Sportsmatch mount with the proper scope stop cuts to fit the rounded grooves. I honestly don't remember. I got the mount from AOA a couple years back.
The scope is a crappy Beeman marked 3-12x40 that came on a horrendously bad Beeman branded Norica I bought at either Sports Authority or Academy Sports like 20-24 years ago. The gun was &^^& and is long gun. The scope, however, has soldiered on and lived on many different rifles over the years. By all rights this scope should have died 20 years ago but she keeps on keeping on. :D
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Thanks, Cslinger, for your response.
I spoke to an AOA rep when I ordered the FWB about 3 years ago. From discussions on GTA at the time, I was aware of the potential for scope creep. The AOA rep assured me that Hawke mounts with a pin stop would hold everything in place, even though the pin stop did not fit into the round groove well. He told me that mounts that fit the rounded groove were not available. After about 125 shots, the Hawke mount failed and allowed everything to creep. Forum member Razor62 advised me to use the BKL double screw mounts plus the Sportsmatch stop. That seems to be working.
I don't mean to hijack your thread and take the discussion in a different direction. Just wanted to reply to you.
Thank you
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No worries at all.
For what it’s worth I also usually put a tiny bit of clear nail polish on my mounts and that seems to lock in the stubborn ones.
I can’t really speak to the longevity of this particular mount/scope combo as I probably only have a tin or less through the gun with this setup.
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If I may ask, what are you using for a scope mount setup? Initially I had a lot of scope creep but now am using BKL mounts plus Sportsmatch scope stop. That seems to be holding, but have not fired it enough to yield definitive results.
Excellent groups, by the way
Initially I had terrible scope creep, even with the BKL mounts. Finally took advice and thoroughly cleaned the scope rail w/ denatured alcohol, and remounted the BKLs. They have not slipped a mm since the remount. I think the rail is tightened to 32 inch/lbs.
I can tell, because the rear mount is only 2mm off the end of the rail!
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PS.
The scope is no lightweight, Hawke Airmax Compact 4-16 x 44.