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Title: M Rod barrel question
Post by: hpa4me on June 06, 2024, 07:15:24 PM
I would like to put a M Rod barrel on my
P Rod but when I look at the parts diagrams  on Crosman’s website I come up with two different numbers for the stock barrel.
2263-001
2264-001
Does anyone know what the difference is between the two ?  I emailed Crosman over a week ago with this question but they never replied back.  I was guessing that maybe the older version wasn’t chocked and the newer version was but I don’t know.
I remember reading a few posts on here about putting a M Rod barrel on a P Rod but I can’t seem to find them now.
Any information would be appreciated. TIA
Tim
Title: Re: M Rod barrel question
Post by: Rocker1 on June 06, 2024, 07:28:47 PM
Mrod barrel diameter is larger, most mrods have .500
 Prods are 7/16,. You can machine the barrel down.. i have. David
Title: Re: M Rod barrel question
Post by: bear air on June 06, 2024, 08:40:17 PM
I thought the 177&22 had 7/16 barrels and the 25 was .5. 
Title: Re: M Rod barrel question
Post by: Rocker1 on June 06, 2024, 09:14:36 PM
 You know I think you are right my man. David
Title: Re: M Rod barrel question
Post by: Rick67 on June 06, 2024, 10:13:12 PM
I would like to put a M Rod barrel on my
P Rod but when I look at the parts diagrams  on Crosman’s website I come up with two different numbers for the stock barrel.
2263-001
2264-001
Does anyone know what the difference is between the two ?  I emailed Crosman over a week ago with this question but they never replied back.  I was guessing that maybe the older version wasn’t chocked and the newer version was but I don’t know.
I remember reading a few posts on here about putting a M Rod barrel on a P Rod but I can’t seem to find them now.
Any information would be appreciated. TIA
Tim



I suggest you get a LW MROD barrel.

I own 2.

The tube is for a Fortitude which can be converted to fit the PROD by boring 2 additional valve screw holes a few millimeters from the existing fore ones.
Title: Re: M Rod barrel question
Post by: Motorhead on June 07, 2024, 12:02:56 AM
I thought the 177&22 had 7/16 barrels and the 25 was .5. 
This ...
.177 & .22 are 7/16" with the .25 at 1/2"
P-rod to M-rod ... leade, transfer hole position and set screw flats differ as each uses a different receiver.

Title: Re: M Rod barrel question
Post by: Frank in Fairfield on June 07, 2024, 09:55:15 AM
Thanks Scott.
I was waiting for the expert to post.
Title: Re: M Rod barrel question
Post by: Rick67 on June 07, 2024, 11:33:21 AM
I thought the 177&22 had 7/16 barrels and the 25 was .5. 
This ...
.177 & .22 are 7/16" with the .25 at 1/2"
P-rod to M-rod ... leade, transfer hole position and set screw flats differ as each uses a different receiver.


I did not modify mine except for the set screw flats which I had to expand/file a bit by 2mm or so.

The TP lines up perfectly and the leade is on point as well—no blast of air whatsoever.
Title: Re: M Rod barrel question
Post by: Tack Driver 10 on June 07, 2024, 02:18:17 PM
From top to bottom:
25 cal GM Marauder
22 cal LW Marauder
22 cal Prod

The difference in the transfer port location is ~ .020".
The .020" can be shaved from the Mrod barrel and the TP will line up.

Title: Re: M Rod barrel question
Post by: Frank in Fairfield on June 07, 2024, 03:06:41 PM
Why not put a 1720T barrel on the PRod?
Title: Re: M Rod barrel question
Post by: Rick67 on June 07, 2024, 07:35:53 PM
From top to bottom:
25 cal GM Marauder
22 cal LW Marauder
22 cal Prod

The difference in the transfer port location is ~ .020".
The .020" can be shaved from the Mrod barrel and the TP will line up.


I use a slightly modified Gauntlet (same as the MROD’s) single-shot tray, not a magazine, so I am able to line up the TP with no problem 👍
Title: Re: M Rod barrel question
Post by: Rick67 on June 07, 2024, 07:44:17 PM
If wanting a .177 PROD (single-shot tray required), you could use a .177 MROD barrel and   a .177 Fortitude bolt.

A 1701P/1720T barrel needs its own breech and bolt and is not compatible with the PROD breech.
Title: Re: M Rod barrel question
Post by: HunterWhite on June 07, 2024, 08:27:45 PM
Scott, Ron, Richard, David. That's good information right there.  That's the kind of stuff that attracted me to the GTA.


Made my day.




Hunter
Title: Re: M Rod barrel question
Post by: hpa4me on June 08, 2024, 11:17:21 AM
I thank you all for your comments and information.  GTA is truly a great place.😁
Thank you for the pictures and info Tack Driver 10, pictures are worth 1000 words.
Question for Rick67, are those the Crosman part numbers that you had listed ?  A LW barrel might be a good choice.
According to the information here everything should work out. My idea is to put a M Rod barrel on a P Rod with a gen 1 M Rod trigger group and in a 2260 wood stock for a smaller lighter gun. Now I just have to locate a 2260 wood stock as Crosman discontinued them.
Again l thank you all
Tim
Title: Re: M Rod barrel question
Post by: Rick67 on June 08, 2024, 11:36:19 AM
I thank you all for your comments and information.  GTA is truly a great place.😁
Thank you for the pictures and info Tack Driver 10, pictures are worth 1000 words.
Question for Rick67, are those the Crosman part numbers that you had listed ?  A LW barrel might be a good choice.
According to the information here everything should work out. My idea is to put a M Rod barrel on a P Rod with a gen 1 M Rod trigger group and in a 2260 wood stock for a smaller lighter gun. Now I just have to locate a 2260 wood stock as Crosman discontinued them.
Again l thank you all
Tim


Yes, they are.

MR-017 for the .177 MROD LW barrel.

I have those very parts that you listed, but they're not for sale.