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Title: Watch this guy.....
Post by: IOWOLF on April 15, 2024, 03:40:37 PM
PCP raptor,
 Diego Peregrina, strongarmssllc@gmail.com,

demmzyweez02@gmail.com, 

Took me for $250.00

I will take part of the blame, I sent it F&F paypal.

Kinda makes you loose faith in your fellow man.


So I'm still looking for a Hatsan AT P2 QE.

Thanx for looking.
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: Ronfiveo on April 15, 2024, 03:45:24 PM
I'm so sorry to hear about this Jay.

If you're positive this was an intentional ripoff, maybe you can spread the word to other forums as well.

Ron
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: avator on April 15, 2024, 05:24:13 PM
Jay.... where did you find this guy?
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: IOWOLF on April 15, 2024, 08:02:32 PM
Jay.... where did you find this guy?


Here, he answered an ad.
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: Insanity on April 15, 2024, 08:08:12 PM
Is it this guy?


https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=profile;u=93184
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: IOWOLF on April 15, 2024, 08:21:52 PM
Is it this guy?


https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=profile;u=93184

Yes.
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: SILENT SQUIRREL on April 15, 2024, 08:31:45 PM
Let's put a posse together boys.
Tar & feathers and run him outta town on a rail
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: Ronfiveo on April 15, 2024, 08:43:25 PM
Let's put a posse together boys.
Tar & feathers and run him outta town on a rail

This is a cautionary tale of don't do business with someone who only has 1 post and registered less than a month.

It's real easy for an armchair quarterback to make the call after the play has been run though.

It's a shame you can't trust people now days.

I'll bring the matches for melting the tar.




Ron
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: Insanity on April 15, 2024, 09:00:56 PM
Let's not be so quick to jump on the cancel culture nonsense. A warning has been posted to be aware of a possible scamer. Who knows what is really going on. Giving that the most of the members here are old enough to have grand kids and some have great grandkids who really knows what is going on. Lack of communication can come in many forms and reasons. 
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: IOWOLF on April 15, 2024, 09:20:25 PM
Let's put a posse together boys.
Tar & feathers and run him outta town on a rail

I like it.
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: IOWOLF on April 15, 2024, 09:21:12 PM
Let's put a posse together boys.
Tar & feathers and run him outta town on a rail

This is a cautionary tale of don't do business with someone who only has 1 post and registered less than a month.

It's real easy for an armchair quarterback to make the call after the play has been run though.

It's a shame you can't trust people now days.

I'll bring the matches for melting the tar.




Ron

Evidently, quite easy.

  I know my Mistake, I will have to live with it.

What I don't need is ..... well Nevermind.

This was a P.S.A.
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: IOWOLF on April 15, 2024, 09:32:17 PM
Let's not be so quick to jump on the cancel culture nonsense. A warning has been posted to be aware of a possible scamer. Who knows what is really going on. Giving that the most of the members here are old enough to have grand kids and some have great grandkids who really knows what is going on. Lack of communication can come in many forms and reasons.

I read this as "the only thing worse than a thief is a liar"

But this guy has Ghosted me for 3 days, and that is 2 days after he said I would get a tracking # by Saturday, I can post the Emails.
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: Back_Roads on April 15, 2024, 10:46:20 PM
Let's not be so quick to jump on the cancel culture nonsense. A warning has been posted to be aware of a possible scamer. Who knows what is really going on. Giving that the most of the members here are old enough to have grand kids and some have great grandkids who really knows what is going on. Lack of communication can come in many forms and reasons.

I read this as "the only thing worse than a thief is a liar"

But this guy has Ghosted me for 3 days, and that is 2 days after he said I would get a tracking # by Saturday, I can post the Emails.
Share the emails with a moderator in PM keep that out of the open forum please.
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: airgunaut on April 16, 2024, 12:08:19 AM
Thanks for the warning. The guy will just change names if he tries it on someone else.
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: IOWOLF on April 16, 2024, 06:37:57 AM
Let's not be so quick to jump on the cancel culture nonsense. A warning has been posted to be aware of a possible scamer. Who knows what is really going on. Giving that the most of the members here are old enough to have grand kids and some have great grandkids who really knows what is going on. Lack of communication can come in many forms and reasons.

I read this as "the only thing worse than a thief is a liar"

But this guy has Ghosted me for 3 days, and that is 2 days after he said I would get a tracking # by Saturday, I can post the Emails.
Share the emails with a moderator in PM keep that out of the open forum please.

Seems that no one wants to see them, but thanx.
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: avator on April 16, 2024, 07:43:24 AM
Let's not be so quick to jump on the cancel culture nonsense. A warning has been posted to be aware of a possible scamer. Who knows what is really going on. Giving that the most of the members here are old enough to have grand kids and some have great grandkids who really knows what is going on. Lack of communication can come in many forms and reasons.

I read this as "the only thing worse than a thief is a liar"

But this guy has Ghosted me for 3 days, and that is 2 days after he said I would get a tracking # by Saturday, I can post the Emails.
Share the emails with a moderator in PM keep that out of the open forum please.

Seems that no one wants to see them, but thanx.
I don't think it's that nobody wants to see them. It's not what we want to share in the open forum. Anyone that wants to see them is welcome to PM you and ask that you forward the emails to them.
We do appreciate you posting the warning. That's part of our members looking out for each other. But I think the warnings are enough without getting into the down and dirty.
If this guy is a registered member he certainly has the opportunity to bring his side of the story.
Thank you for sharing.
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: bear air on April 16, 2024, 07:50:27 AM
I'm sorry you are having a bad transaction Jay. I've had one sale go bad as well. I tend to stick to dealing with active and reputable members. That has helped me to avoid getting this type of stuff. I hope the guy has a change of heart and makes it right.
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: SILENT SQUIRREL on April 16, 2024, 09:23:39 AM
I'm sorry you are having a bad transaction Jay. I've had one sale go bad as well. I tend to stick to dealing with active and reputable members. That has helped me to avoid getting this type of stuff. I hope the guy has a change of heart and makes it right.
Reminds me of the thief I caught putting the tires back on my car
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: avator on April 16, 2024, 09:40:10 AM
I'm sorry you are having a bad transaction Jay. I've had one sale go bad as well. I tend to stick to dealing with active and reputable members. That has helped me to avoid getting this type of stuff. I hope the guy has a change of heart and makes it right.
Reminds me of the thief I caught putting the tires back on my car
Did let him finish before you lumped him up?
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: bear air on April 16, 2024, 11:50:34 AM
Not sure what your trying to say Bill. Honest people will keep the lines of communication open that's a big sign you've been had once the line goes quiet.
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: avator on April 16, 2024, 12:02:13 PM
Not sure what your trying to say Bill. Honest people will keep the lines of communication open that's a big sign you've been had once the line goes quiet.
I'm not doubting Jay's word if that's what you think. I'm saying that this Raptor dude is a member and he has yet to respond here either.
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: Xraycer on April 16, 2024, 12:21:05 PM
This is a cautionary tale of don't do business with someone who only has 1 post and registered less than a month.
+1. Since they are a brand new member, I would absolutely insist on receiving item first before payment goes out. Take it or leave it.

With that being said, OP stated it's only been 3 days of no communication before he started this thread. Personally, I don't feel that's a very long time. I would, begrudgingly, give it a week before I lose it and start crying foul.
Perhaps something catastrophic happened with/to the seller. Wouldn't be the first time here, something detrimental happened to a member and we don't find out for awhile.

I hope things work out for you, Jay, and that this isn't a case of being ripped off.
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: IOWOLF on April 16, 2024, 07:12:36 PM
This is a cautionary tale of don't do business with someone who only has 1 post and registered less than a month.
+1. Since they are a brand new member, I would absolutely insist on receiving item first before payment goes out. Take it or leave it.

With that being said, OP stated it's only been 3 days of no communication before he started this thread. Personally, I don't feel that's a very long time. I would, begrudgingly, give it a week before I lose it and start crying foul.
Perhaps something catastrophic happened with/to the seller. Wouldn't be the first time here, something detrimental happened to a member and we don't find out for awhile.

I hope things work out for you, Jay, and that this isn't a case of being ripped off.

I guess you are just a better man than I am.

How many guys can get scammed in a week, It is a warning , Take it as such and no more.


He will get an apology if it works out to my advantage. But I won't hold my breath.

 
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: IOWOLF on April 16, 2024, 07:14:26 PM
Not sure what your trying to say Bill. Honest people will keep the lines of communication open that's a big sign you've been had once the line goes quiet.
I'm not doubting Jay's word if that's what you think. I'm saying that this Raptor dude is a member and he has yet to respond here either.

Thank you,

You sir took it as it was meant to be .....a PSA.
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: Robert 5mm on April 17, 2024, 06:02:57 PM

I sent it F&F paypal.


I use Paypal.
This is why when I sell items I offer to use F&F or not and add the 3.5% fee.
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: IOWOLF on April 18, 2024, 06:42:57 AM
Let's not be so quick to jump on the cancel culture nonsense. A warning has been posted to be aware of a possible scamer. Who knows what is really going on. Giving that the most of the members here are old enough to have grand kids and some have great grandkids who really knows what is going on. Lack of communication can come in many forms and reasons.


And now it has been a week, can we now Assume he is a thief?
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: Insanity on April 18, 2024, 08:49:53 AM
You can assume what ever you want but I'm not going to be made an @@@ over it.
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: Rocker1 on April 18, 2024, 09:01:41 AM
 Gentlemen  there will be no lynch mob on this forum no tar and feathers, we will do our best to get the facts.  No We will not assume he is a theif yet.  What Matt said makes a lot of sense. David
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: avator on April 18, 2024, 09:13:43 AM
Look...
Once again... thank you for the warning and sharing your experience. I hope that somehow this gets resolved for you.
But I think this thread has a more important lesson for our members.
There is a reason that the GTA restricts the use of our Classified Gate to members with 20+ posts and 30+ days is to protect our members from situations just like this.
Hopefully others will take this lesson and avoid this outcome. Those rules will not guarantee that all transactions will be smooth, that's where research on the part of both parties needs to be done.
I know the OP knows where he went wrong and opened the door to be taken advantage of and that's exactly what happened.
Do the leg work and protect yourselves.
I promise you that I, the other mods nor the admins of this forum are not going to let this thread turn into a mud slinging match.
The point of the thread has been made.
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: IOWOLF on April 18, 2024, 12:48:25 PM
Look...
Once again... thank you for the warning and sharing your experience. I hope that somehow this gets resolved for you.
But I think this thread has a more important lesson for our members.
There is a reason that the GTA restricts the use of our Classified Gate to members with 20+ posts and 30+ days is to protect our members from situations just like this.
Hopefully others will take this lesson and avoid this outcome. Those rules will not guarantee that all transactions will be smooth, that's where research on the part of both parties needs to be done.
I know the OP knows where he went wrong and opened the door to be taken advantage of and that's exactly what happened.
Do the leg work and protect yourselves.
I promise you that I, the other mods nor the admins of this forum are not going to let this thread turn into a mud slinging match.
The point of the thread has been made.

Then Close it.

As was said, the point has been made. We have a person who takes advantage of a Poor old guy on a fixed income who is not wise to the ways of the world.

Read that as ...Jay got screwed, and it was his own fault.

Thank you to those with a thread of sympathy.

Now close this thread.
Title: Re: Watch this guy.....
Post by: avator on April 18, 2024, 01:14:51 PM
Thread closed at OP's request.