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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: Nomadic Pirate on November 19, 2011, 05:00:28 PM
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I know, I know, most people dislike the practice,...I on the other hand quite enjoy using handpumps to charge my PCPs
I hear the claim of how hard it is, and I think that is sooo much blown out of proportions, ...tedious ? yes it definatly is, ......but Hard ? C'mon, .....unless you a gilrly fella, it's not hard at all ;D ;D ;D
I have 7 pumps, so I rotate, never let them get hot and never have to wait for cool down period ;) ;) ;)
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That's a lot of pumps....Heck, that's a lot of guns. :)
(If you sold all those pumps, it would pay for a nice 4500# SCBA set-up)
If you are having fun, that's all that matters.
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Now, I'm self sufficient,
no need to go get air anywhere, never not able to shoot because I have no air :)
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It wouldn't be bad if I was just pumping it up to go hunting. But when just target shooting, and having to refill several times in a session, it gets real old real fast. Plus the fact that it does get the heart rate up a little bit. That in and of itself is not a bad thing, but makes tight groups somewhat more difficult.
Richard
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Just one old guy's preference, prefer to pump fill all the PCPs.
If I got that much shooting to do, will pick up a springer.
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i like pumping my disco, but at the same time once i get anther pcp since it will be a 25cal i want a tank and then a hill pump as back up..
once i get a tank setup im going to tear down the benji pump and rebuild it but also clean it out and debur everything and smooth what needs to be smooth so when or if i ever need a back up pump for a dry tank or whatever.. the pump is good to go
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Just one old guy's preference, prefer to pump fill all the PCPs.
If I got that much shooting to do, will pick up a springer.
That's what I do too, target shooting with a PCP gets old real fast :)
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Pump is the way to go. If you want no effort shooting you might just as well use powder burners. If you can't use a pump there are recoilles springers out there. If your hand gets tired from cocking the springer, well back to powder burners. If cocking the bolt in them is too hard ... well they don't call it shooting sports for nothing ;D
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i have over 2000 rounds through my disco,all hand pumped with the benji pump.
its not that difficult to pump to 2400 psi.
i shoot down to about 1100,then pump up to 2400....about 60 pumps.
after 1400 psi my back is on fire....lol.
i have a muscle condition that i dont really care to talk about....even with that,i dont mind pumping.
the air i make is free.
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Nomadic Pirate, what pump do you prefer? I will be getting my first pcp in January and want to start off with a pump.
It will be an M-rod in .22
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id go witha hill mk3 pump.. their pricey at just under 300 but rebuild kits are very easy to get from pa and they are built with higher quality then the benjamin hand pump
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Definatly the Hill, 250 bucks after discount at Pyramyd
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Definatly the Hill, 250 bucks after discount at Pyramyd
Great, thanks.
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I don't mind it, going from 150 to 200 bar isn't a tough task. Now doing valve mods in my air reservoir and pumping from empty, that one leaves you wanting to pass out lol
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Sorry, but PCP in my book, is one big expensive PIA. I'll stick with my Sheridans, Springers or Co2.
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i dont mind the pump....but i dont know any better. LOL i dont have a tank. but i agree with richard ...if im target shooting it does get old after 4-5 pump up's.
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Target shooting? I started with the Mrod for a couple fills, moved to the Prod for a couple more, then ended with the NP Venom. Shooting bug satisfied, as far as quantity goes, and shared the love all around without killing myself pumping.
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I don't mind pumping my Disco... 50 pumps for about 25 shots... works for me. It isn't "easy" but if you are in decent shape shouldn't be hard for anyone... I could see if I had health issues or had a bad back or something.... but at my age, I would feel lazy filling it any other way than by pump.
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i don't mind pumping it,s good for you.
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I have to pump up my Lonestar to 230 bar. Now I just watch a show and pump during commercials.
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Sorry, but PCP in my book, is one big expensive PIA. I'll stick with my Sheridans, Springers or Co2.
If you not looking for power I agree with you.
PCP just brings you to a completely different level where no springers/pumps/co2 are even remotely close in FPE :)
it's a total different world altogether :)
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If I want that kind of "fpe", I'll grab my 45/70 Marlin. In my book, AG's are 50-60 yd shooters. If I want to shoot something farther than that than I'll grab a PB. Besides, some of the PCP's are as loud if not louder than a .22LR. My Benjamin pumper at 10 pumps almost as loud as my .22 and only shoots half as far.
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I think 50-60 yards it's too much, never shoot that far :), the report of a powerfull AirGun is nowhere near the report of a PB.
Lots and lots of advantages in PCP compared to PBs.
But, hey we are talking handpumps here, wander what made you want to come in and tell every PCP owner/shooter that he's supid
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i like the convience of filling from a tank when shooting a lot, but i would like to have a pump. never know if/when things might go "south" and getting a tank filled may not be an option. rendering my pcp's useless. if i had a pump they would still be good to go. ;D
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Exactly, being selfsufficient is enpowering :)
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wander what made you want to come in and tell every PCP owner/shooter that he's supid
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I don't know; My right shoulder says NO!! It is drag getting old!! (Snap, Crackle and Pop when you get out of bed in the morning). I should have been kinder to my body in the younger years. Take Heed Young One's!!!!
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Shot per shot, it's actually more of an effort shooting a Benjamin Pumper than handpumping a 50 FPE PCP, if you go down to 15 FPE PCP, the effort pumping a Benjamin 392 is considerably more.
Betcha not many people put that one in prospective
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wander what made you want to come in and tell every PCP owner/shooter that he's supid
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Shot per shot, it's actually more of an effort shooting a Benjamin Pumper than handpumping a 50 FPE PCP, if you go down to 15 FPE PCP, the effort pumping a Benjamin 392 is considerably more.
Betcha not many people put that one in prospective
Usually 1 pump / 12 fpe shot, more power - more pumps. 12 fpe is enough for small game (rabbit, birds) up to 40-50yards.
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With rkr on this one. grew up with Sheridans and Benjamins, so got use to that power level and still prefer it for many uses.
Several of my PCPs are set up to give 12-13 foot pounds and what works out to a shot per pump stroke during the sweet spot. 40 strokes in, 40 shots, 40 strokes in, 40 shots, etc.
For the same 40 shots at the same energy from my Sheridan, would need 280 pump strokes...easier strokes, but a lot more of them.
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yea. i like my pumpers, but wouldn't even dream of sitting down and shooting a tin of pellets through one in a day. but i would my mrod, but not if i had to hand pump it. just to take hunting or a short plinking session they work pretty good. they all have a place and fill a niche. hand pumps, tanks, pcp's, multipumpers, co2, etc. ;D
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Hand pumped...will save the tank filling for when I'm old(er) and feeble.
May be more complicated than some folks care for (although it doesn't seem that way to me), but are so consistently once you get them dialed in that it is so worth the effort.
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One fill...60 shots...refill, 60 pumps.
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i shoot till i need to repump my disco and then while pumping i have a smoke, or if i am at the lake house i let some one else pump it while i go check my lines.. better then a tank lol i check the fishing lines and some one else does the work
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I dont know about the "joy" of hand pumping but a pump will be on my Christmas list. I like the idea of never being without. But untill the air runs out of my 88cf tank I'll save that energy for something else.
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I dont know about the "joy" of hand pumping but a pump will be on my Christmas list. I like the idea of never being without. But untill the air runs out of my 88cf tank I'll save that energy for something else.
get ur self a hill mk3 pump