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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => BB Guns and Such => Topic started by: TorqueMaster on February 14, 2024, 10:06:44 PM

Title: BBBB -- BB Buyers Beware
Post by: TorqueMaster on February 14, 2024, 10:06:44 PM
So Daisy fooled me -- I did not know they had more than one type of "Match Grade" BBs available.  I thought I was ordering the "Avanti" 1050 BBs that are ~0.175.  Instead I got the red/yellow labeled ones, which say they are 0.1720 caliber.  I did not know these existed.

Had I looked closer when purchasing, I would have seen the size listed -- but I thought a tub of 1050 BBs was only an Avanti thing, so I did not bother to look closer.   So technically, my fault. 

My Model 35 shoots everything almost equally bad, so no comment on yay or nay on these.   I'll do a closer study of size, roundness, weight of these at some point.

Title: Re: BBBB -- BB Buyers Beware
Post by: bantam5s on February 15, 2024, 10:20:55 AM
Interesting,  I didn't know they had these either.
Title: Re: BBBB -- BB Buyers Beware
Post by: Methuselah on February 15, 2024, 11:30:31 PM
I wonder if any Daisy factory employees lurk here...
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Title: Re: BBBB -- BB Buyers Beware
Post by: desertplinker on February 17, 2024, 02:46:40 PM
So Daisy fooled me -- I did not know they had more than one type of "Match Grade" BBs available.  I thought I was ordering the "Avanti" 1050 BBs that are ~0.175.  Instead I got the red/yellow labeled ones, which say they are 0.1720 caliber.  I did not know these existed.

Had I looked closer when purchasing, I would have seen the size listed -- but I thought a tub of 1050 BBs was only an Avanti thing, so I did not bother to look closer.   So technically, my fault. 

My Model 35 shoots everything almost equally bad, so no comment on yay or nay on these.   I'll do a closer study of size, roundness, weight of these at some point.



Dang it!! I have the "red" ones also, now I am going to have to try the blue ones, I had no idea. My container of red ones say made in China. What does it say on the blue ones?
Title: Re: BBBB -- BB Buyers Beware
Post by: TorqueMaster on February 17, 2024, 07:31:45 PM
Both red/yellow and the blue say: Packaged in USA -- BBs made in China.
I did just spy that my red/yellow 0.1720 Cal BBs are model #990516(-212)   Avantis should be model #990515.
Do not confuse "part#" and "model#" they don't match at all.

The Avanti BBs are sometimes referred to as "Daisy 515" but I see no mention of that model number on the blue tub.  Oh wait, a sticker on the bottom does say "990515"

I just found an image of a tub of BBs with the red/yellow sticker with "#515" on it -- so label color alone doesn't tell which you have.  Hopefully you can find the model#.

Title: Re: BBBB -- BB Buyers Beware
Post by: bantam5s on February 18, 2024, 08:07:11 AM
It looks like you'll want to pay attention whether or not it says " top of the line chromium steel "
Title: Re: BBBB -- BB Buyers Beware
Post by: desertplinker on February 18, 2024, 03:59:08 PM
So Daisy fooled me -- I did not know they had more than one type of "Match Grade" BBs available.  I thought I was ordering the "Avanti" 1050 BBs that are ~0.175.  Instead I got the red/yellow labeled ones, which say they are 0.1720 caliber.  I did not know these existed.

Had I looked closer when purchasing, I would have seen the size listed -- but I thought a tub of 1050 BBs was only an Avanti thing, so I did not bother to look closer.   So technically, my fault. 

My Model 35 shoots everything almost equally bad, so no comment on yay or nay on these.   I'll do a closer study of size, roundness, weight of these at some point.



Well, I got some of the Blue label says top of the line, red does not. Same part # as yours. My unscientific test (my Daisy 499) the blue takes longer for the bb to roll down the shot tube and connect with the magnet, and at least for me they are a bit more accurate.
Title: Re: BBBB -- BB Buyers Beware
Post by: PelletSport on February 23, 2024, 02:28:39 PM
So Daisy fooled me -- I did not know they had more than one type of "Match Grade" BBs available.  I thought I was ordering the "Avanti" 1050 BBs that are ~0.175.  Instead I got the red/yellow labeled ones, which say they are 0.1720 caliber.  I did not know these existed.

Had I looked closer when purchasing, I would have seen the size listed -- but I thought a tub of 1050 BBs was only an Avanti thing, so I did not bother to look closer.   So technically, my fault. 

My Model 35 shoots everything almost equally bad, so no comment on yay or nay on these.   I'll do a closer study of size, roundness, weight of these at some point.
Thanks a million, Bob! Your research will save me and many others a lot of frustration and headaches!