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Airguns by Make and Model => Hatsan Airguns => Topic started by: Ike the GSD on December 17, 2023, 10:46:13 PM
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I'm thinking about buying one of these, Amazon has them for $199.97 free shipping. Does anyone have any experience with this rifle, they seem incredibly powerful for a spring piston air rifle and I thought it would be kinda neat to own one.
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Hatsan currently has an old-school coil spring version for $129 on their refurb page:
https://hatsanairgunsusa.com/product/_refurbished-mod-125-spring/
I have one with the "sniper" stock with a cheek riser and find it as accurate as I can aim. It is a heavy gun, but sleeker and a little lighter than the Mod 130/135 behemoths. You may want a scope for it as the refurbs don't come with them, in the end costing as much as your Amazon Combo deal, but you can get a better scope. I also like the Williams peep sight on springers if I'm shooting 25 yards or less. Peeps don't mind recoil.
Thay also have a closeout Mod 87 Vortex QE for $115., with scope; I find that and the Mod 95 to be smaller, lighter, and still powerful out as far as I can shoot accurately.
https://hatsanairgunsusa.com/product/mod-87-vortex-quietenergy/
Expect to have the usual work on Hatsan springers: Loctite the stock screws, adjust the barrel pivot bolt as it wears in, bend the barrel to line it up better with the sights or scope, maybe some spring tuning if you really want to get into it. Or you might get one that was acually refurbished and shoots well out of the box.
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Hatsan currently has an old-school coil spring version for $129 on their refurb page:
https://hatsanairgunsusa.com/product/_refurbished-mod-125-spring/
I have one with the "sniper" stock with a cheek riser and find it as accurate as I can aim. It is a heavy gun, but sleeker and a little lighter than the Mod 130/135 behemoths. You may want a scope for it as the refurbs don't come with them, in the end costing as much as your Amazon Combo deal, but you can get a better scope. I also like the Williams peep sight on springers if I'm shooting 25 yards or less. Peeps don't mind recoil.
Thay also have a closeout Mod 87 Vortex QE for $115., with scope; I find that and the Mod 95 to be smaller, lighter, and still powerful out as far as I can shoot accurately.
https://hatsanairgunsusa.com/product/mod-87-vortex-quietenergy/
Expect to have the usual work on Hatsan springers: Loctite the stock screws, adjust the barrel pivot bolt as it wears in, bend the barrel to line it up better with the sights or scope, maybe some spring tuning if you really want to get into it. Or you might get one that was actually refurbished and shoots well out of the box.
The refurb 125 looks like a good deal I actually wanted the spring piston version anyway. As long as they stand behind the rifle if it breaks and it looks like they give you a 90 day warranty, that's a significant savings. I know Hatsans have their foibles, but after watching a few youtube videos on this model it seems fairly stout.
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Big Hatsan fan here, go for it, next best thing to going to the Dark Side ;D
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There is additional 15% off and free shipping with code BB20 (ends at 4:00pm), if u find one “In
Sorry seems like the code is not for refurbs, that one expired few days back
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I have a factory refurb in .25, as well as a lightly used non-refurb (also in .25) which i believe is stock. Both standard stocks, both coil spring.
The refurb is very powerful and from limited shooting at 25 yards, surprisingly accurate. At least when I try. It is not ridiculous to cock, but no one would want to shoot one for an extended period of time.
Shot the 2nd one for the first time tonight, just a few shots over the chronograph. Even more powerful, yet not "a beast" in terms of shot cycle. Big numbers - 860 fps with 20 grain FTT's, 640 with 34 grain JSB's.
I'm gonna need a good, stout scope for it because I really want to see how it shoots.
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I have a factory refurb in .25, as well as a lightly used non-refurb (also in .25) which i believe is stock. Both standard stocks, both coil spring.
The refurb is very powerful and from limited shooting at 25 yards, surprisingly accurate. At least when I try. It is not ridiculous to cock, but no one would want to shoot one for an extended period of time.
Shot the 2nd one for the first time tonight, just a few shots over the chronograph. Even more powerful, yet not "a beast" in terms of shot cycle. Big numbers - 860 fps with 20 grain FTT's, 640 with 34 grain JSB's.
I'm gonna need a good, stout scope for it because I really want to see how it shoots.
I kind of backed off of buying one when I started seeing a lot of complaints about the triggers breaking?
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I kind of backed off of buying one when I started seeing a lot of complaints about the triggers breaking?
Hi Wes.
I have a .25 cal. Hatsan 125 TH and a .22 cal Walther Talon Magnum. ( a Hatsan 125 )
Both rifles are spring powered and about 15 - 20 years old.
Neither one has broken a trigger as yet.
Quite possibly the newer ones have a flaw in the triggers.
I have read about triggers breaking myself, but mine are holding up OK.
I bought the .25 cal. Hatsan 125 TH, in the GTA classifieds, from cherokee steve about 5 years ago.
> https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=157347.msg155741710#msg155741710
About a month later Steve-52 gave me the Walther Talon Magnum.
Both rifles have proved to be good guns.
Best Wishes - Tom
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I've got a refurbished 125 sniper in .177. Without the bundled scope is much better IMHO as the bundled scope won't last on it. I've not had any problems with it so far but for me at least it's a 2 handed cocking rifle. I can cock my Diana 48 all day long but I've not been cocking a break barrel in over 30 years so there is that.
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Wes, my 125's don't see a lit of use, nor does my H95, but I have had no problems. Mine are not adjusted to be light or have very little sear engagement though. I have a healthy respect for the amount of force they are holding back and I do not take any risks with my triggers.
While I have heard of trigger failures, I have not heard of many and I have to wonder how those triggers had been adjusted. Of course, if the failure point wasn't at the sear point, my conjecture is moot.
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I've had two Quattro trigger blades break on me. IMO it was a bad run of triggers. I've put thousands of rounds through my Hatsan's without complaint over the last four years. If I were buying a new Mod 125 I would definitely prefer the Sniper stock and spring powerplant.
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I think the good Captain has this surrounded.
Though I prefer the standard stock, and the weight savings vs the sniper version is a nice bonus.
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I think the good Captain has this surrounded.
Though I prefer the standard stock, and the weight savings vs the sniper version is a nice bonus.
I really like the adjustable cheek riser on the Sniper stock. My spring powered Mod 125 is the old model sniper with the plastic moderator and the shorter barrel than the standard stock model. It's actually lighter than the standard model even though the stock is a bit heavier.
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Well, I do like adjustable combs!
I must never have seen an old one. The snipers I have picked up felt heavier. No scope on one of them.
Shooting one of the H125's right now. It very much likes Crow Magnuns!
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Well well....
It's just a basement range, doesn't make 10 yards.
But it is handy sometimes. This was just shot with .25 Crow Magnums while I rested my off hand on a copper water line.
That's three shots descending left as I adjust the scope, then 5 more into a slightly vertically oblong hole just left of the divising line. It reflects my heartbeats and a trigger too heavy to let me shoot between them.
I'm feeling optimistic about shooting at 25... 👍
Shooting those 26.24 gr pellets at 750 fps too.
They sure hit the trap hard!
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Thanks for all of the replies guys, have any of you chronographed these rifles? I'm curious to see if they produce the power Hatsan claims. There's a thread in here from a couple of years ago discussing the decline in quality of Hatsan products and it looks like the trigger breaking issue is on recently built rifles. In a different thread a fella said that he had two trigger blades break, the original one and a replacement Hatsan had sent him, they sent him a second trigger and apparently so far so good?
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Wes, I have Hatsans of note, 2 H125's in 25 and a H95 in .22 - all three meet power claims, and all shoot well.
The 95 makes 20 fpe with 14.5 Superdomes, and the two 125's each make over 30 fpe with a variety of lead pellets, up to 33 in one case. I have some good chrony data on the refurb I bought, and a little sparse data I got just last night on the other but I'dlm going to take the new data with a grain of salt - they may change with a little use.
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Brian you obviously got a couple of real good ones. Mine area bit more tame. My mod 95 makes a little over 18 fpe with 14.3gr Piranhas. My .22 mod 125 makes 24 fpe with 16gr pellets and my .25 just tops 27 fpe with 20.06gr pellets. On the plus side cocking isn't onerous, shot cycle is comfortable, and accuracy is excellent on all three guns.
The current production mod 125 Quattro Vortex SAS Sniper QE etc. has a short barrel with a metal QE shroud. The older springer model snipers have a medium length barrel and a big plastic moderator. It makes them a wee bit shorter and lighter.
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Well, a few more things to know - the H95 (also a refurb) does mostly 18-20 fpe, and I am at sea level so I'm in a prime spot for higher velocity numbers. Also, the H95 has a little "ping" you can hear through the stock, which I'm guessing comes from the piston seal being crushed by the piston. Shoots great though, and was well worth the small purchase price.
As for the H125's, I'm a little spooked (in a good way). Both of them are exceptionally powerful.
I will say that I think they are the best combination of power and weight out there.
In fact, I think I will get my hands on a gold trigger blade for the "hot" one just so I remember which is which.
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1. They are long and heavy. If you can't reach the end of the barrel (for leverage) you probably wont like cocking one.
2. Keeping scopes on them will be a challenge, as they have powerful recoil too. Nothing but basic and lifetime warranteed scopes for them. 4x32 mil-dot with short parallax sounds about right.
3. They have loads of power but I doubt anyone wants to try picking off squirrels at long range with one accuracy-wise. So that power is wasted unless you are shooting much larger animals. I'd say you could responsibly go up to possum / raccoon sized game. Makes them specialty guns.
4. Ammo will always be lots more. IMO, buy JSB 25.39's first and compare all other ammo to that.
I think the 125 is best in 25, and I've lost interest in a .22 version. One of my two may get some tuning attention because it would be nice to have an apples-to-apples comparison with any other "heavies", like a D350 or B28.
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Does someone make a metal trigger blade for the 125 sniper?
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Does someone make a metal trigger blade for the 125 sniper?
As far as I know they are metal they're just cast and apparently the geometry of the trigger blade puts a lot of stress on the holes where the trigger pins go?
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If the triggers were still an issue, we would still be hearing the reports. I have a hand full of Hatsan springers, all will exceed the FPS claims when using alloy pellets like their competitors use.
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I thought maybe there was a GRT trigger available.
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The Quattro is an excellent trigger. Take the time to learn how it works and how to assemble and disassemble it. It's really pretty simple and easy to work on. IMO the trigger blade failures were the result of a bad run of triggers. I've had no further issues in over two years and thousands of shots.
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I have no problems with the trigger just thought there might be a fancier one available.
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Here's a shot string using 10.03 grain knockout slugs. If I had a way of sizing them I'd probably get a lot smaller fps spread.