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Airguns by Make and Model => Gamo Airguns => Topic started by: HPP-Mechanic on October 14, 2023, 01:07:24 PM
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Im on the fence buying this one... https://gamousa.com/product/hunter-extreme-pro-22-break-barrel-air-rifle/ Would like to hear some real-world feedback and not just Youtube hype to sell the guns. I like the fact that it has a truly ambi stock (lefty). Was considering the Diana 350, but that stock and $200 more... 30-40-50 yard shooting, must be quiet and no pcps.
Another concern is parts. I hear that Gamo wont sell replacement parts, and that is why Im avoiding the swarm/magazine versions. Is the gas ram gun convertible to a spring?
Ready to add a .22 magnum to the collection. yay or nay?
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My neighbor has a Gamo Hunter Extreme. When he needed a simple piston seal he had to get it from England as it was larger than anything available here in the states at the time. Gamo does not like to sell parts to end users. They prefer to ship to licensed firearm dealers. If you want to order one try ordering a spare piston seal at the same time. Most gas spring guns can be converted to coil spring guns If you can find the proper spring and get a guide.
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I did mine year or so ago got spring and seal from JM, ill have a look and let you know part numbers. Will tell you now they are a bear to cock, i clipped spring on mine and its still shoots a 15g jsb at 880.
David
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I did mine year or so ago got spring and seal from JM, ill have a look and let you know part numbers. Will tell you now they are a bear to cock, i clipped spring on mine and its still shoots a 15g jsb at 880.
David
Sounds like a beast, is it true that the breech is metal, where all other Gamo's are plastic? Is the lock-up pin steel? I read somewhere its plastic... I prefer to fix my own stuff; warranty be darn. I dont like to ship, wait, then wonder if the fix was legit. Im a mechanic and nobody takes my stuff apart but me, thats why I asked about the spring conversion in the future. Sorry for so many questions...
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Yes its all steel ànd wood. David
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Well, I ordered one yesterday. I hope I get a good one...
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Well, I ordered one yesterday. I hope I get a good one...
Received it today. Front sight was wacked and crooked-easy fix. Had to crank the rear sight almost all the way left to zero. Only shot it to sight @ 20yards and is accurate w/ tight groups.
The CAT trigger is nearly 4lbs, and the screws dont seem to do much at all. Is there still a trigger upgrade offered? Trigger is metal, rear sight is metal, the moderator is an enormous plastic thing... An absolute beast to cock & a beautiful looking gun. I like it. Hope it gets easier to cock, and that trigger...
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You can change the trigger for a charlie trigger , I warned you thats its tough to cock. David
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I ended up sending it back for hopefully an exchange. I think it was dropped on the end of the barrel, since the front hood/sight was wacked when I received it. Also, The stock checkering was great on one side, but faint/missing in areas on the other. I hope they send me a nice one this time... I was told 6-8 weeks?!?!! They had the first gun to me in 2 days... Trigger was 3 3/4 pounds pull no matter how I adjusted the screws too. If I change the trigger, goodbye 5yr warranty... Wish I could buy a couple spare gas rams for down the road.
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I envied you when you got one. if they were available here I would have one. Pity about the damage. I hope the replacement is as good as my Hunter Maxim.
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My Gamo Hunter 1250 Extreme had the wood stock routed out of whack, with the inletting asymmetrical from side to side, pieces missing etc. Having a faint checkering on one side would've fitted right in there.
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This is all you need to bring that CAT trigger down as low as you want.
https://airgundetectives.com/product/adjustment-screw-for-the-gamo-c-a-t-and-s-a-t-triggers-2/
I put it in my Gamo Magnum, and Whisper Fusion Mach 1. Best $10.00 you can spend on a Gamo with the CAT or SAT trigger.
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Finally got my Gamo back from Gamo yesterday. Actually, I got a different gun, warranty exchange-same .22 Hunter Extreme Pro. I cleaned the barrel(dirty!) then took it outside . I shot 4 different pellets, 5 shots each, at 22yards; off a bag. Ironically, the Gamo Redfires were most accurate of the 4 pellets I tested. Someone definitely test-fired this gun before shipping it because I didn’t have to touch the site adjusters at all. It’s a beast to cock but shooting good! I didn’t mess with the trigger, and only put 20 pellets thru it before running out of light. I’m happy. Now I need another scope & mount…
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Congratulations Frank !
You are good to go now.
Best Wishes - Tom
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You can change the trigger for a charlie trigger , I warned you thats its tough to cock. David
Did you switch to a CDT trigger? I looked on eBay-want to stock up on a spare piston seal and has ram or 3…
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yes sir thats the first thing to do, some guys put a longer screw in it i have been in many many airguns and thats not the safe way. David
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I bought one almost a year ago. First one had the most beautiful beech stock I had every seen, But someone got heavy on the sanding belt and gouged it pretty bad. I got it exchanged. Second one was perfect and stock still looks awesome for beech. I swapped the trigger adjustment screw and have had no issues. I bought the Extreme Pro after buying a Swarm magnum gen 2. For magnums they don't seem as hold sensitive or as hard to get great groups. Under a dime at 25 yards with magnums is dang good with just a causal springer hold. Took me hours to get the hold right on my Hatsan 125 sniper to get a decent group.
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I’ve got over 200 shots thru it now & it’s becoming a decent shooter. And I’m getting muscles back too. Trigger definitely needs improving. It’s cold here in Wisconsin, so shooting isn’t too often. The gun really likes FX 15.9g & JSB 15.89 jumbo exact pellets. I’m happy with this Gamo.
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I’ve got over 200 shots thru it now & it’s becoming a decent shooter. And I’m getting muscles back too. Trigger definitely needs improving. It’s cold here in Wisconsin, so shooting isn’t too often. The gun really likes FX 15.9g & JSB 15.89 jumbo exact pellets. I’m happy with this Gamo.
Was just shooting the FX 15.9's the other day. JSB makes the FX and Air Arms pellets so I buy what's available at the best price. This how I fixed my trigger. There's video on Youtube. I counted the turns out and put the longer screw back in the same number. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01B1OD7IK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
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I bought one almost a year ago. First one had the most beautiful beech stock I had every seen, But someone got heavy on the sanding belt and gouged it pretty bad. I got it exchanged. Second one was perfect and stock still looks awesome for beech. I swapped the trigger adjustment screw and have had no issues. I bought the Extreme Pro after buying a Swarm magnum gen 2. For magnums they don't seem as hold sensitive or as hard to get great groups. Under a dime at 25 yards with magnums is dang good with just a causal springer hold. Took me hours to get the hold right on my Hatsan 125 sniper to get a decent group.
Wow how time flies. It was almost 2 years ago!
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Thinking seriously about getting one. This would be a step up in power for sure over my Hatsan 95 Vortex. I see the "Pro" model has GAMO's gas-ram power plant, anyone have a problem as yet with the ram leaking down? I've been down that road with the Hatsan 95, that's not a fun deal. The GAMO folks are making it very difficult for me to look away, pricing that rifle at $249 (on line only) with free shipping no less. That seems like a pretty decent deal. Anyone think it is a BAD idea to buy one? Plinking and back yard varmint hunting would be my primary uses of the rifle.
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Hi Joe.
I don't know the history on Gamo's gas rams.
After 7 years, I went thru gas ram replacement on a Hatsan Edge, so I know how that goes.
I would think that Gamo's gas rams are at least as good as Hatsan's and maybe better.
I suspect that the $80 New Year's discount price and free shipping on the Hunter Extreme won't hold up too much longer.
Best Wishes - Tom
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Indeed.
Every once in a while you do read about Hatsan's gasrams (albeit a replacement after 7 years sounds pretty normal to me), but actually I have never read something about Gamo's IGT gasrams.
There is a local gun shop here where I live and they sell a lot of Gamo models too. The reason they do (according to what the owner told me) is that once they sell a Gamo, they never ever get complaints back.
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For sure give you muscles i have had mine for years but compared it to the newer ones cant see a difference. Mine sets for long peroids and i can tell im getting older when i cock it i am 72 now and have friends that cant come close to cocking it. My rws 350 is not near as hard to cock. I still love it and before long it will be wall candy its one of the last old new gamos guys, years back all gamos were wood and steel. David
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Thinking seriously about getting one. This would be a step up in power for sure over my Hatsan 95 Vortex. I see the "Pro" model has GAMO's gas-ram power plant, anyone have a problem as yet with the ram leaking down? I've been down that road with the Hatsan 95, that's not a fun deal. The GAMO folks are making it very difficult for me to look away, pricing that rifle at $249 (on line only) with free shipping no less. That seems like a pretty decent deal. Anyone think it is a BAD idea to buy one? Plinking and back yard varmint hunting would be my primary uses of the rifle.
Ok--I got my hands on one of these, and first impressions it's a handsome air rifle. Nice beechwood stock, decent bluing on the metal. Went to check all screws for tightness, and found one of the screws on the "recoil-reducing" scope rail a little buggared up. The torx bit was a sloppy fit, it appeared the head of the screw was not properly formed, and was nearly stripped out as a result. There are five of these screws holding the rail on, two in the "stop" and three in the rail itself. I will contact GAMO about a replacement screw (or two!). By the way, what is the consensus on the GAMO two-piece recoil reducing rail? Do "we" like it, or is it preferable to just install a new conversion rail, that is, dovetail to picatinny, to allow use of "standard" scope rings? The rifle's barrel was extremely dirty, patches were coming out just black as coal, maybe this is some type of preservative applied to the bore by GAMO? Anyway, patched it out with solvent till she was nice and clean. Set up my target trap across the basement, and took a few test shots. This thing hits with authority! The rifle's sights were initially adjusted very low as received from GAMO, and I nearly missed the target hitting right at the extreme bottom!! Took care of that, and now waiting on scope rings the mount the BugBuster 3x9 AO scope for a proper test. So far, so good. It IS a bear to cock though, you need some LONG arms due to the length of this rifle. I may try to remove the front site to make grasping the moderator a little easier.
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I am just a little envious of you getting a Gamo Extreme pro. I l ook forward to some more information about it when you get used to it . I have a Hunter Maxim which is a much less powerful gun and a delight to shoot .l also have a Umarex Octane Elite that puts out 22 to 25 ft/lbsit is heavy powerful and a but unwieldy to shoot so A comparison would be interesting but not possible from this end. One thing for sure is your Gamo will be a better presented gun . Don't worry about the dirty barrel. All Gamos come like that.
One other thing I am curious about is the muZle brake . Does it add lenght to the cocking leverage or try to do some sound reducing.
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I am just a little envious of you getting a Gamo Extreme pro. I l ook forward to some more information about it when you get used to it . I have a Hunter Maxim which is a much less powerful gun and a delight to shoot .l also have a Umarex Octane Elite that puts out 22 to 25 ft/lbsit is heavy powerful and a but unwieldy to shoot so A comparison would be interesting but not possible from this end. One thing for sure is your Gamo will be a better presented gun . Don't worry about the dirty barrel. All Gamos come like that.
One other thing I am curious about is the muZle brake . Does it add lenght to the cocking leverage or try to do some sound reducing.
Good to know about the barrel (I think... :-\). It was REALLY dirty, coal black patches coming out as I mentioned. It finally "cleaned up" after about 10 patches! The brake (moderator?) does both (provides extra leverage AND some sound reduction). The only thing I don't like regarding the moderator, is that it makes it near impossible to use a "PatchWorm" for cleaning (my preferred method). I'm going to fabricate a short piece of aluminum or brass tubing to pass through the moderator, and extending to the barrel crown, so the PatchWorm will be able to pass through easily. It's either that or the moderator will have to be taken apart so that the baffles don't interfere period. There is a video regarding that particular technique. As I mentioned, waiting on scope mounting rings before further testing. Any comments on GAMO's "recoil reducing" rail? Does it seem to actually WORK?
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I am just a little envious of you getting a Gamo Extreme pro. I l ook forward to some more information about it when you get used to it . I have a Hunter Maxim which is a much less powerful gun and a delight to shoot .l also have a Umarex Octane Elite that puts out 22 to 25 ft/lbsit is heavy powerful and a but unwieldy to shoot so A comparison would be interesting but not possible from this end. One thing for sure is your Gamo will be a better presented gun . Don't worry about the dirty barrel. All Gamos come like that.
One other thing I am curious about is the muZle brake . Does it add lenght to the cocking leverage or try to do some sound reducing.
Good to know about the barrel (I think... :-\). It was REALLY dirty, coal black patches coming out as I mentioned. It finally "cleaned up" after about 10 patches! The brake (moderator?) does both (provides extra leverage AND some sound reduction). The only thing I don't like regarding the moderator, is that it makes it near impossible to use a "PatchWorm" for cleaning (my preferred method). I'm going to fabricate a short piece of aluminum or brass tubing to pass through the moderator, and extending to the barrel crown, so the PatchWorm will be able to pass through easily. It's either that or the moderator will have to be taken apart so that the baffles don't interfere period. There is a video regarding that particular technique. As I mentioned, waiting on scope mounting rings before further testing. Any comments on GAMO's "recoil reducing" rail? Does it seem to actually WORK?
Hi Joe.
I still have Gamo's recoil reducing rail on my rifle.
I have read some negative reviews about it.
At some point I think I will replace it with a Mizugiwa recoil reducing rail.
> .https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjWo_uBuvODAxXgPkQIHWgXCtUQFnoECBMQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FMIZUGIWA-Recoil-Profile-Picatinny-Compensation%2Fdp%2FB081HZJHGK&usg=AOvVaw1L_BXz_k5Cp-vV7NjpsbAK&opi=89978449
Best Wishes - Tom
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mine is about 20 years old it doesnt have the brake on it it has a shroud, Im not sure when they did that but do know its that old I do remember the old ones had the steel brake. I will get a picture today. David
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Guys I’m absolutely blown away with my new Gamo. It’s without doubt 1 of the best magnum break barrels I’ve had.
I cleaned the barrel, sealed the inside of the stock with Permalyn, the outside got a couple coats of PTO. Also fixed the lawyer heavy trigger & lubbed it up.
Accuracy is amazing! While I’ve yet to scope it at 25yrds it constantly prints dime sized groups, key word here is consistency! So far I’ve tried 3 different types of pellets & all performed similarly! Rifle is also very forgiving in regards to how it’s held!
I’ve spent hours of my time & a good deal of $$$ on my D350 / Hatsan 125, i know the rifles well & both are above average in performance….. This new Gamo is already outperforming them!
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That is a thumbs up for Gamo.
Just as a comparison here are some chrony figures for my two Gamo in .22.
Hunter Maxim IGT. H&N Ftt 732 fps 17 45 ft lbs.
Pellet 14.66 gns.
BSA Spitfire/ Gamo 10 shot 810 fps 21.3 ft
Same gun depowered to 725 fps for 18.5 ft lbs
Pellet 15.89gns .
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I am just a little envious of you getting a Gamo Extreme pro. I l ook forward to some more information about it when you get used to it . I have a Hunter Maxim which is a much less powerful gun and a delight to shoot .l also have a Umarex Octane Elite that puts out 22 to 25 ft/lbsit is heavy powerful and a but unwieldy to shoot so A comparison would be interesting but not possible from this end. One thing for sure is your Gamo will be a better presented gun . Don't worry about the dirty barrel. All Gamos come like that.
One other thing I am curious about is the muzzle brake . Does it add length to the cocking leverage or try to do some sound reducing.
Good to know about the barrel (I think... :-\). It was REALLY dirty, coal black patches coming out as I mentioned. It finally "cleaned up" after about 10 patches! The brake (moderator?) does both (provides extra leverage AND some sound reduction). The only thing I don't like regarding the moderator, is that it makes it near impossible to use a "PatchWorm" for cleaning (my preferred method). I'm going to fabricate a short piece of aluminum or brass tubing to pass through the moderator, and extending to the barrel crown, so the PatchWorm will be able to pass through easily. It's either that or the moderator will have to be taken apart so that the baffles don't interfere period. There is a video regarding that particular technique. As I mentioned, waiting on scope mounting rings before further testing. Any comments on GAMO's "recoil reducing" rail? Does it seem to actually WORK?
Continuing to play with the Extreme Pro rifle a bit... Picked up a piece of 1/4" OD rigid aluminum tubing from ACE hardware, works great for passing it through the moderator to allow a PatchWorm (my preferred method) to be used for cleaning. Installed a longer M2.5 x .45P screw in the CAT trigger (found some in stainless steel at Home Depot for less than $1.50/bag of two, but need shortened), to reduce the LONG 2nd stage trigger pull. The factory adjustment screw was already bottomed out as received from Gamo, the 2nd stage pull was WAY too long and could not be adjusted any further since the adjustment screw was ALREADY bottomed out. Instead of fabbing up a custom screw like I did, one can just annie up $10 and obtain one from Airgun Detectives. He has a video up about this product/installation on his website. Either way, with careful adjustment, you can make the CAT trigger very usable, but still very safe as well. The usual "disclaimers" about working on triggers apply here, DON'T do it unless you are very experienced and knowledgable regarding trigger work. What I can say is it made a tremendous difference in the CAT trigger's 2nd stage pull. 'Nuff said on that subject... The rifle is smoothing out nicely after perhaps 100 shots or so, and it looks like a keeper. Still waiting on scope rings to mount up the BugBuster scope (hurry up Optics Planet, they USED to have very quick delivery times :() so I can get a better idea of the type of accuracy the Pro will deliver.
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I am just a little envious of you getting a Gamo Extreme pro. I l ook forward to some more information about it when you get used to it . I have a Hunter Maxim which is a much less powerful gun and a delight to shoot .l also have a Umarex Octane Elite that puts out 22 to 25 ft/lbsit is heavy powerful and a but unwieldy to shoot so A comparison would be interesting but not possible from this end. One thing for sure is your Gamo will be a better presented gun . Don't worry about the dirty barrel. All Gamos come like that.
One other thing I am curious about is the muzzle brake . Does it add length to the cocking leverage or try to do some sound reducing.
Good to know about the barrel (I think... :-\). It was REALLY dirty, coal black patches coming out as I mentioned. It finally "cleaned up" after about 10 patches! The brake (moderator?) does both (provides extra leverage AND some sound reduction). The only thing I don't like regarding the moderator, is that it makes it near impossible to use a "PatchWorm" for cleaning (my preferred method). I'm going to fabricate a short piece of aluminum or brass tubing to pass through the moderator, and extending to the barrel crown, so the PatchWorm will be able to pass through easily. It's either that or the moderator will have to be taken apart so that the baffles don't interfere period. There is a video regarding that particular technique. As I mentioned, waiting on scope mounting rings before further testing. Any comments on GAMO's "recoil reducing" rail? Does it seem to actually WORK?
Continuing to play with the Extreme Pro rifle a bit... Picked up a piece of 1/4" OD rigid aluminum tubing from ACE hardware, works great for passing it through the moderator to allow a PatchWorm (my preferred method) to be used for cleaning. Installed a longer M2.5 x .45P screw in the CAT trigger (found some in stainless steel at Home Depot for less than $1.50/bag of two, but need shortened), to reduce the LONG 2nd stage trigger pull. The factory adjustment screw was already bottomed out as received from Gamo, the 2nd stage pull was WAY too long and could not be adjusted any further since the adjustment screw was ALREADY bottomed out. Instead of fabbing up a custom screw like I did, one can just annie up $10 and obtain one from Airgun Detectives. He has a video up about this product/installation on his website. Either way, with careful adjustment, you can make the CAT trigger very usable, but still very safe as well. The usual "disclaimers" about working on triggers apply here, DON'T do it unless you are very experienced and knowledgable regarding trigger work. What I can say is it made a tremendous difference in the CAT trigger's 2nd stage pull. 'Nuff said on that subject... The rifle is smoothing out nicely after perhaps 100 shots or so, and it looks like a keeper. Still waiting on scope rings to mount up the BugBuster scope (hurry up Optics Planet, they USED to have very quick delivery times :() so I can get a better idea of the type of accuracy the Pro will deliver.
Update 1/26-- Wonder of wonders, scope rings from Optics Planet arrived this afternoon! Used a set of Hawke low "double screw" rings to mount the BugBuster scope. Hopefully pic is attached. Achieved a VERY low scope mounting position on the rail using these rings, any lower and the AO bell would hit the rail. Got about maybe .050" clearance to the AO bell, perfect as far as I'm concerned, as you still have a decent cheekweld with this setup. Also, I used the existing hole on the Gamo rail to engage the rear scope ring's "stop"pin, but I don't really like where the ring ended up (to make use of that hole), the ring is JUST bridging the rail/stop interface. I guess it will be OK though... Anyway, got a rough zero adjustment on the scope just shooting in the basement, and will get some targets shot for accuracy (from the bench w/sandbags) at my local club's indoor range, perhaps in a day or two. Stay tuned..(http://)
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I got to shoot the Gamo for a few hours today, and now have 460 shots thru it. Definitely easier to cock, or I'm getting stronger... Only 30* here today, so I quit after 150 shots.. I'm liking this gun more & more.
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yes sir thats the first thing to do, some guys put a longer screw in it i have been in many many airguns and thats not the safe way. David
I know I'm responding to an older post from early January--BUT: If the "longer screw" technique is NOT the safe way, then what IS the SAFE way to improve the trigger pull on the CAT trigger? I realize installing a longer 2nd stage screw, and over-adjusting it, can certainly make the CAT trigger unsafe. IF the SAFE way is to install the CDT replacement trigger in the CAT, I assume this trigger (the CDT) is, at least to a point, decreasing the second stage sear engagement as well. This is pretty much a variation of the same thing the "longer screw" method achieves. Or is it? Perhaps the CDT trigger is doing this with different trigger geometry, maybe by changing the "leverage" aspect of the trigger? Can anyone explain how the CDT trigger DOES this in a way that is understandable---that is, how is installing the CDT trigger SAFER than simply installing the longer screw and using a conservative adjustment of same? I went the longer screw route for now, but did not get "greedy" with the adjustment. A small change in the length of the adjustment screw makes big changes in the quality of the trigger "feel" and "break" from factory settings. I am open to purchasing the CDT trigger, but need convincing on why this is the "better" way to improve the CAT. Mainly looking for "Rocker" and "Ole Tom Cats" responses here, but interested in what others have to say about the CAT trigger as well.
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No sir it isnt, the geometry of the trigger desighn is a huge factor, Charlie explained this all to me years back he was a engineer for a automotive company and will also say he was a grumpy old coot Now Gene wasnt, he was down to earth and shared every thing with who ever wanted to learn. Im sure Tom met Charlie and Gene at one of the shoots. David
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No sir it isnt, the geometry of the trigger design is a huge factor, Charlie explained this all to me years back he was a engineer for a automotive company and will also say he was a grumpy old coot Now Gene wasn't, he was down to earth and shared every thing with who ever wanted to learn. I'm sure Tom met Charlie and Gene at one of the shoots. David
David, can you remember any of the details on this "geometry" aspect? If this is indeed in play here with the CAT trigger, I assume this is somehow changing the "leverage" aspect of the trigger action, and thusly improving the trigger break/feel, while doing this is in a safe manner. For now, I'm still happily using my $1.50 Home Depot screw mod in the trigger of my HXP rifle. However, I'm certainly willing to purchase and install one of the CDT triggers IF this truly is an improvement. BUT, I still have a need to know exactly HOW the CDT is actually a better/safer improvement over the simple "longer screw" mod. I'm just weird like that. SOMEBODY knows the technical details of how the CDT trigger actually WORKS to improve Gamo's CAT trigger, can you please share details on this?
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Thousands of them out there for well over 12 years i know of, So something must be right. David
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Thousands of them out there for well over 12 years i know of, So something must be right. David
David, I understand that point. I just need to be convinced the CDT trigger is actually better/safer than the $1 (or, in the case of the Airgun Detectives guy, the $10 screw "kit" for the CAT trigger --after all you DO get a proper Allen adjustment wrench with it ;D) longer 2nd stage adjustment screw mod. Like the CDT trigger, I would imagine hundreds, if not thousands, of the "longer screw mods" have been installed as well. What I'm NOT reading anything about is: are there any actual PROBLEMS with the longer screw mod, installed with an appropriately conservative adjustment. I realize that this mod, like anything taken to an unsafe, extreme adjustment, could potentially cause "issues". However, one would think that we would be reading about it right here in these pages. On my own Gamo Hunter Extreme, a very conservative 2nd stage adjustment has yielded a VERY decent, usable trigger pull. WAY, way better than the factory setting. There is still a small amount of "creep" in the trigger, but I'm OK with it for a mere $1 expenditure. I did the same mod on my Hatsan 95 Vortex (Quattro trigger) and it is also very nice/usable as well. If I were to sell either of these rifles, I will return the triggers to their factory settings.
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I dont have to convince you my man the trigger speaks for itelf if you happy with the screw so be it, dont take my word for it ask any respectable tuner on this forum. David
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As a semi-retired engineer i also have the compulsion to fully UNDERSTAND how things work. "It's just better" without explanation simply raises MORE questions. I don't own a CDT trigger blade but can make some educated guesses about how it works.
I think the CDT trigger blade makes the trigger a TRUE 2-stage trigger. Initial first-stage blade travel reduces sear overlap to a near release point.Then second-stage blade travel quickly releases piston latch.
The longer screw adjustment simply pre-moves the sears to a much smaller overlap. First-stage trigger blade travel is just "take-up-slack" and does nothing to actual sear overlap.
The longer screw method does work and can FEEL exactly the same as a true 2-stage trigger. However it is inherently less secure/reliable than the true 2-stage trigger blade solution.
Each person needs to decide what THEY want to have and what THEY want to $pend to get there :-)
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As a semi-retired engineer i also have the compulsion to fully UNDERSTAND how things work. "It's just better" without explanation simply raises MORE questions. I don't own a CDT trigger blade but can make some educated guesses about how it works.
I think the CDT trigger blade makes the trigger a TRUE 2-stage trigger. Initial first-stage blade travel reduces sear overlap to a near release point.Then second-stage blade travel quickly releases piston latch.
The longer screw adjustment simply pre-moves the sears to a much smaller overlap. First-stage trigger blade travel is just "take-up-slack" and does nothing to actual sear overlap.
The longer screw method does work and can FEEL exactly the same as a true 2-stage trigger. However it is inherently less secure/reliable than the true 2-stage trigger blade solution.
Each person needs to decide what THEY want to have and what THEY want to $pend to get there :-)
Mikeyb-- I appreciate your effort at explaining this. If indeed this is the case regarding how the CDT trigger blade works, then it is indeed very much more desirable over the "longer screw mod". But I wonder why Gamo didn't manufacture the SAT trigger in this manner (a true 2-stage)? How hard would it BE for them to incorporate that design into their trigger? It certainly wouldn't cost much if designed as a true 2-stage from the ground up. The trigger would be BOTH tons better AND just as safe as the current SAT. I just dunno.... Anyway, at least you made an attempt to to verbally explain things, but of course the only way to definitively KNOW how the darn thing works is to purchase one (CDT trigger blade) and install it. And then to actually OBSERVE what is going on inside the trigger mechanism. I'm in agreement with your statement "each person needs to decide what THEY want to have and what THEY want to $pend to get there". So for now, I'm OK with the $1 "longer screw mod" because I have made a very conservative, small adjustment. A middle-of-the-road adjustment, if you will, not extreme, but much more shoot-able than the factory adjustment. Mine was delivered with the factory screw completely bottomed out, such that PREVENTS further adjustment, and trigger "creep" was STILL so excessive it was not possible to shoot the rifle offhand with any degree of repeatability/accuracy. And yes, I KNOW how to shoot a rifle offhand, as I'm an old high-power Service Rifle competitor that still competes in this venue. The first time I pulled on it (the SAT trigger) I thought this is a true "lawyer" style trigger pull. Shot from a solid rest--it might be somewhat OK. But for reasonably accurate offhand/standing shooting? Forgetaboutit!
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Since we are veering off topic discussing triggers I started a new thread here
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=213886.msg156528476#msg156528476
with my comments regarding triggers :-)
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I apologize my good man. David
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Are these rifles made in England?
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They are made in Spain
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They are made in Spain
Thanks Baum, I just heard GAMO had a few of their rifles made by BSA and I was crossing my fingers😁 I really like this rifle it gets good reviews and she packs a whollup👍
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I have two of the hunter extreme pros one is just for parts and it does about 1/2''-3/4'' groups at 20 yards. The other one is pellet on pellet 1 hole groups at 30 yards or better.
The thing about mass produced airguns is you have to check the barrels, get a cleaning rod and put a piece of tape on the end and push the pellet through the breach if it gets loose the last couple inches and fall out of the barrel I can almost guarantee your gun Won't be that accurate. If it stays tight as the pellet exits the barrel you got something to work with ;)
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Gamo Hunter Extreme .25
H&N FTT 20.06g 32FPE
Predator GTO 16.54g 36.9FPE
I use J-B Non-Embedding Bore Cleaning Compound and J-B Bore Bright.
I clean the barrel super well.
SUPER ACCURATE - 20 YRDS H&N FTT 20.06g
Group pellet on pellet 5 shot
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How well do these rifles hold up?
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I hate to say this but in last 15 yrs Gamo has made big improvement in quality and design. They are few plastic parts like barrel latch I'll problem have one made out of steel and trigger I felt worst but that could be easy fix with a GRT-4G. I'm not a big fan of Multi-Shot system or there scope but overall I was very impress with the firing action was smoother then I expected and that include cocking as well. No loose screw or anything falling apart. I paid $255 plus sale taxes its hard beat.
Thinking to upgrade with a 85Kg or maybe 90Kg gas ram.
Open sight at 20yrd at elevation 52ft 65F