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Support Equipment For PCP/HPA/CO2 and springers ,rams => Optics, Range estimation & related subjects => Topic started by: Cableaddict on August 13, 2023, 12:50:54 PM
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My main scope is an MTC SWAT 10x30.
I absolutely love the thing, and would be hard pressed to ever change to a "regular" scope.
However, the bulk of my shooting is close-distance pesting, and it's extremely beneficial to get the scope as close to your gun barrel as possible. (For less hold-over or turret adjustment when switching between close and distant targets.)
Unfortunately, the MTC's come with a very clever, very useful, but VERY tall angle-adjusting mount.
I can live without the angle adjuster (via careful use of shims) and would LOVE to find some low scope rings instead, but the MTC barrel is 34mm.
The only rings I've found so far are these Vortex ones:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1111566-REG/vortex_pmr_34_1_1_34mm_precision_matched_ring.html?gclid=CjwKCAjw_uGmBhBREiwAeOfsd98-wTE-mMLwXzY5cHS-FdBTbtYQfFahntabhrO3OgfpHPW0FmpFuhoCkP8QAvD_BwE (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1111566-REG/vortex_pmr_34_1_1_34mm_precision_matched_ring.html?gclid=CjwKCAjw_uGmBhBREiwAeOfsd98-wTE-mMLwXzY5cHS-FdBTbtYQfFahntabhrO3OgfpHPW0FmpFuhoCkP8QAvD_BwE)
Besides being expensive (OK, I can live with that) they are a bit too wide to fit two of them on the MTC. I could try just one, or maybe I could cut one in half for the front of the scope, but jeez.....
Any ideas for a thinner version?
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Actually the higher mounted scope offers a flatter trajectory curve past your zero. ;)
Cant becomes a bigger issue however.
Enter it in Chairgun and see.
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Eagle Vision 34mm rings @ UTAH Airguns
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Actually the higher mounted scope offers a flatter trajectory curve past your zero. ;)
True, but it's not a big difference until you get past 50 yards, or if you go TOO low. and I almost never hunt at that distance.
(IIRC, I made charts for down to 2" above bore. Below that and your point starts to be a factor even 50 yards)
- And the amount you don't have to adjust at 7 - 10 yards is HUGE.
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Eagle Vision 34mm rings @ UTAH Airguns
Thanks, Mike.
Those might be a good compromise. I have to find out how thick they are, but they do look a hair thinner than the Vortex. I have about 1.8" (front-to-back) to work with, so these might just fit.
Sadly, they are significantly taller than the Vortex, but they have built-in angle adjustment which is great. I won't have to mess with tricky shims.) Plus, they appear to still be lower than the MTC's stock mount.
I think this is the way to go, unless something else is found.
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Airguns of Arizona has a bunch of 34mm options as well
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Google is your friend....
HTH's?
https://www.opticsplanet.com/s/34mm-scope-rings?_iv_categories=riflescope-mounts-rings-and-bases (https://www.opticsplanet.com/s/34mm-scope-rings?_iv_categories=riflescope-mounts-rings-and-bases)
https://www.amazon.com/34mm-rings/s?k=34mm+rings (https://www.amazon.com/34mm-rings/s?k=34mm+rings)
https://sightmark.com/products/tactical-mounting-rings-34mm-medium-height-picatinny-rings (https://sightmark.com/products/tactical-mounting-rings-34mm-medium-height-picatinny-rings)
https://www.milehighshooting.com/optics-mounts/scope-rings-mounts/34mm/ (https://www.milehighshooting.com/optics-mounts/scope-rings-mounts/34mm/)
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Is there a simple explanation for EXACTLY what it means when a scope ring is listed as " one inch " ?
No Google is not my friend! I've been reading for a few hours and still can't find a definitive answer. It's very important for my application.
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Is there a simple explanation for EXACTLY what it means when a scope ring is listed as " one inch " ?
No Google is not my friend! I've been reading for a few hours and still can't find a definitive answer. It's very important for my application.
One inch refers to the scope size the ring is compatible with ex: 30mm, 34mm, 1 inch. Most common is 1 inch second probably 30mm
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No, I'm talking about the ring HEIGHT.
Sorry I should have been more clear.
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No, I'm talking about the ring HEIGHT.
Sorry I should have been more clear.
Oh. I have no idea . Maybe email the manufacturer and see what they mean?
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No, I'm talking about the ring HEIGHT.
Sorry I should have been more clear.
Yes, when ring makers talk about low, medium, and high rings; they all have different heights. There is no standard.
Some have diagrams that give all the dimensions, others do not.... :-[
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You might look into the 34mm Eagle Vision rings. They are very solid and is what I use for my Element Titan 34mm scope.
(https://i.ibb.co/d5rKSD6/Side-Wheel-03-1-26-21.jpg)
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Yes, when ring makers talk about low, medium, and high rings; they all have different heights. There is no standard.
Some have diagrams that give all the dimensions, others do not.... :-[
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Yep.
Luckily, Athalon show the exact height on their website:
https://athlonoptics.com/product/armor-rings-34mm/
This particular sizing makes the most sense, IMO.
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You might look into the 34mm Eagle Vision rings. They are very solid and is what I use for my Element Titan 34mm scope.
Yeah these look really good. Those are the Infinity INS-34, correct?
I may not be able to fit two of the other brands side-by-side (the MTC Atom doesn't have much exposed tube to work with) so this Eaglevision, being extra-thick, might be perfect.
It's a bit taller than I wanted, but still lower than the stock MTC MOA unit.
Can you tell me the exact thickness?
thx !
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You might look into the 34mm Eagle Vision rings. They are very solid and is what I use for my Element Titan 34mm scope.
Yeah these look really good. Those are the Infinity INS-34, correct?
I may not be able to fit two of the other brands side-by-side (the MTC Atom doesn't have much exposed tube to work with) so this Eaglevision, being extra-thick, might be perfect.
It's a bit taller than I wanted, but still lower than the stock MTC MOA unit.
Can you tell me the exact thickness?
thx !
Unfortunately, I cannot. At the moment my guns are in storage is why. They are tall but is what I needed for my 56mm objective. I did have to raise my adjustable cheek rest to compensate for the height.
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Thx.
Obviously not for me then.