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Title: Warranty for hw30s v beeman r7
Post by: Teaboat on June 25, 2023, 06:07:15 PM
I have a few  questions about the warranties given I'm a casual shooter and don't want to go about tinkering with my rifle if something breaks.

Do they both have lifetime warranties?
Does anyone have experience with a warranty claim for either a Beeman R7 or WH30S, if so, how was your experience?
Title: Re: Warranty for hw30s v beeman r7
Post by: PasadenaMike on June 25, 2023, 07:18:10 PM
I’d rather deal with Weirauch warranty through aoa then Beeman with air Venturi
Title: Re: Warranty for hw30s v beeman r7
Post by: Yogi on June 25, 2023, 07:58:53 PM
I have a few  questions about the warranties given I'm a casual shooter and don't want to go about tinkering with my rifle if something breaks.

Do they both have lifetime warranties?
Does anyone have experience with a warranty claim for either a Beeman R7 or WH30S, if so, how was your experience?

Most warranty claims are "serviced" by first the vendor and then finally the importer.  Even if you break something, they are easily fixed.

-Y
Title: Re: Warranty for hw30s v beeman r7
Post by: Robert 5mm on June 25, 2023, 08:04:50 PM
I have a few  questions about the warranties given I'm a casual shooter and don't want to go about tinkering with my rifle if something breaks.

Do they both have lifetime warranties?
Does anyone have experience with a warranty claim for either a Beeman R7 or WH30S, if so, how was your experience?

It really depends on the vendor you bought it from - some are excellent some not. Some pay 2-way return shipping some do not.

The HW30/R7 really does not have much manufacturing problems, so sending it back should happen right away for replacement rather than for warranty work.
At least that is my experience, others may have different experiences.
Title: Re: Warranty for hw30s v beeman r7
Post by: Teaboat on June 25, 2023, 08:29:06 PM
My two options are a Beeman from Airgundepot or a Weihrauch from AOA.  Which would you say is easier to work with? 

Also, does the Weihrauch have a lifetime warranty as I've seen several posts saying 1 year while others say lifetime.

Thanks!


I have a few  questions about the warranties given I'm a casual shooter and don't want to go about tinkering with my rifle if something breaks.

Do they both have lifetime warranties?
Does anyone have experience with a warranty claim for either a Beeman R7 or WH30S, if so, how was your experience?

It really depends on the vendor you bought it from - some are excellent some not. Some pay 2-way return shipping some do not.

The HW30/R7 really does not have much manufacturing problems, so sending it back should happen right away for replacement rather than for warranty work.
At least that is my experience, others may have different experiences.
Title: Re: Warranty for hw30s v beeman r7
Post by: rufus80 on June 25, 2023, 08:46:08 PM
According to Pyramydair.com,  Beeman has a limited lifetime warranty and Weihrauch has a limited 1 year.
Title: Re: Warranty for hw30s v beeman r7
Post by: PasadenaMike on June 25, 2023, 08:53:56 PM
According to Pyramydair.com,  Beeman has a limited lifetime warranty and Weihrauch has a limited 1 year.

Aoa has lifetime warranty on their Weirauches. They’re easy to get a hold of
Title: Re: Warranty for hw30s v beeman r7
Post by: Denby95 on June 25, 2023, 09:50:19 PM
I contacted Beeman, they said Air Venturi handles warranty claims for R model Beemans.

So I contacted Air Venturi via email twice, and called their customer service line twice and left voicemails. No one ever contacted me or returned my messages. It was really more an experiment for me to see how the warranty experience was because I just opened the gun and dealt with the issues I was having myself.

I'd suggest that if you're not looking to open up your own gun, you'd be better off sending it to a tuner than place of purchase anyways.

Title: Re: Warranty for hw30s v beeman r7
Post by: Yogi on June 25, 2023, 11:15:25 PM
I have a few  questions about the warranties given I'm a casual shooter and don't want to go about tinkering with my rifle if something breaks.

Do they both have lifetime warranties?
Does anyone have experience with a warranty claim for either a Beeman R7 or WH30S, if so, how was your experience?

TeaBoat, Do not turn an ant hill into a mountain! >:(   Buy whichever gun you like best at the price you can afford.  As earlier mentioned, if you have ANY problems within the first month, SEND IT BACK to the vendor.
Anything on these guns can be fixed.  Any manufacturing problems will become apparent within the first 200 pellets.  You are over thinking this!

-Y
Title: Re: Warranty for hw30s v beeman r7
Post by: Bayman on June 25, 2023, 11:42:30 PM

TeaBoat, Do not turn an ant hill into a mountain! >:(   Buy whichever gun you like best at the price you can afford.  As earlier mentioned, if you have ANY problems within the first month, SEND IT BACK to the vendor.

Anything on these guns can be fixed.  Any manufacturing problems will become apparent within the first 200 pellets.  You are over thinking this!

-Y


I work on a lot of new or low shot count Weihrauchs. Recently I've had several new Weihrauchs come through with cut piston seals, scored compression tubes and one with a bead of braze slag in the corner of the comoression tube. Piston seals are easily replaceable. The scores aren't a death sentence as they can usually be honed out by a skilled person.

Now the gun with the slag was brand new and no seal in the world would survive two shots in that gun. Since I couldn't come up with a way to get that slag out, the customer returned it to PA for another. Having a good return policy can be important.

The customer had no problem with PA exchanging that gun. I've had problems with PA returns before. I'd recommend you to AoA if you're concerned about warranty. Mind you if you remove the stock you void the warranty. That's with any of them.
Title: Re: Warranty for hw30s v beeman r7
Post by: tjk on June 26, 2023, 12:32:08 AM
I have a few  questions about the warranties given I'm a casual shooter and don't want to go about tinkering with my rifle if something breaks.

Do they both have lifetime warranties?
Does anyone have experience with a warranty claim for either a Beeman R7 or WH30S, if so, how was your experience?

Tom, I wouldn't be too concerned about anything breaking with the Weihrauch made springers unless they endure user abuse. These guns are well built and will last a lifetime or more. Another great thing about the HW made springers are the simplicity of their construction. They are easy to services well. But if you do not feel inclined to work on your own gun, do yourself a favor and forget about warranties from either the manufacturer or the retailer,...you would be much better off sending your gun to a reputable airgun smith (tuner) that knows these rifles inside and out and allow them to perform their work on the rifle instead. You will receive a much better rifle than the factory could ever produce. I promise you won't be sorry sending to an airgun tuner. If you stay in this hobby long enough, you will learn a lot more about these guns in detail and maybe even perform your own airgun tunes!!! Best of Luck what ever path you choose.

Title: Re: Warranty for hw30s v beeman r7
Post by: Back_Roads on June 26, 2023, 08:52:09 AM
 Here is my choice for life time warrantees :) Not high end but high QC ;)
http://flyingdragonairrifles.org/index.php?route=product/category&path=59 (http://flyingdragonairrifles.org/index.php?route=product/category&path=59)
Title: Re: Warranty for hw30s v beeman r7
Post by: Yogi on June 26, 2023, 10:57:09 AM

TeaBoat, Do not turn an ant hill into a mountain! >:(   Buy whichever gun you like best at the price you can afford.  As earlier mentioned, if you have ANY problems within the first month, SEND IT BACK to the vendor.

Anything on these guns can be fixed.  Any manufacturing problems will become apparent within the first 200 pellets.  You are over thinking this!

-Y


I work on a lot of new or low shot count Weihrauchs. Recently I've had several new Weihrauchs come through with cut piston seals, scored compression tubes and one with a bead of braze slag in the corner of the comoression tube. Piston seals are easily replaceable. The scores aren't a death sentence as they can usually be honed out by a skilled person.

Now the gun with the slag was brand new and no seal in the world would survive two shots in that gun. Since I couldn't come up with a way to get that slag out, the customer returned it to PA for another. Having a good return policy can be important.

The customer had no problem with PA exchanging that gun. I've had problems with PA returns before. I'd recommend you to AoA if you're concerned about warranty. Mind you if you remove the stock you void the warranty. That's with any of them.

Yes Ron,

However, these problems should/would be readily apparent within the first 200 pellets. 

-Y

PS I have had issues returning defective stuff to AoA.
Title: Re: Warranty for hw30s v beeman r7
Post by: c_m_shooter on June 26, 2023, 03:50:33 PM
Maufacturing defects should be aparent pretty quickly.   These are notoriously reliable guns that will usually be fine for years before needing service.  There are several sources for parts and videos to follow for disassebly/reassembly when it is time.
Title: Re: Warranty for hw30s v beeman r7
Post by: Teaboat on June 26, 2023, 08:03:04 PM
What issues did you have if you don't mind asking?  Did they resolve your problem in the end?


TeaBoat, Do not turn an ant hill into a mountain! >:(   Buy whichever gun you like best at the price you can afford.  As earlier mentioned, if you have ANY problems within the first month, SEND IT BACK to the vendor.

Anything on these guns can be fixed.  Any manufacturing problems will become apparent within the first 200 pellets.  You are over thinking this!

-Y


I work on a lot of new or low shot count Weihrauchs. Recently I've had several new Weihrauchs come through with cut piston seals, scored compression tubes and one with a bead of braze slag in the corner of the comoression tube. Piston seals are easily replaceable. The scores aren't a death sentence as they can usually be honed out by a skilled person.

Now the gun with the slag was brand new and no seal in the world would survive two shots in that gun. Since I couldn't come up with a way to get that slag out, the customer returned it to PA for another. Having a good return policy can be important.

The customer had no problem with PA exchanging that gun. I've had problems with PA returns before. I'd recommend you to AoA if you're concerned about warranty. Mind you if you remove the stock you void the warranty. That's with any of them.

Yes Ron,

However, these problems should/would be readily apparent within the first 200 pellets. 

-Y

PS I have had issues returning defective stuff to AoA.
Title: Re: Warranty for hw30s v beeman r7
Post by: SpiralGroove on June 29, 2023, 04:48:34 PM
I have a few  questions about the warranties given I'm a casual shooter and don't want to go about tinkering with my rifle if something breaks.

Summary:
1) Shoot the gun enough in the first 30 days to determine if anything is wrong.
- in the unlikely scenario something is not right - return to vendor.

2) Send it back to vendor for repairs under warranty after 30 days.

2) If something breaks after warranty has expired, have it serviced by someone like Ron or find someone local ... these gun are incredibly easy to work on an fix/improve performance.
- if you were in Washington State and drove over to my house, I'd fix/tune it for fee.  For someone who doesn't do this for a living, the occasional chance to work on one is relaxing ;). 

Title: Re: Warranty for hw30s v beeman r7
Post by: Robert 5mm on June 29, 2023, 04:56:44 PM

- if you were in Washington State and drove over to my house, I'd fix/tune it for fee.  For someone who doesn't do this for a living, the occasional chance to work on one is relaxing ;).

Kirk did you mean to say FREE

If anyone wants to and will drive to my house in Southern Illinois - I would also fix or help as much as I can for free.
Title: Re: Warranty for hw30s v beeman r7
Post by: SpiralGroove on June 29, 2023, 06:55:56 PM

- if you were in Washington State and drove over to my house, I'd fix/tune it for fee.  For someone who doesn't do this for a living, the occasional chance to work on one is relaxing ;).

Kirk did you mean to say FREE

If anyone wants to and will drive to my house in Southern Illinois - I would also fix or help as much as I can for free.

Opps, my bad - Yes Free -> sometimes I mess up my typing :P. 
It's usually nice to talk to fellow air gunners ... as we usually realize we have many sensibilities is common. 
Title: Re: Warranty for hw30s v beeman r7
Post by: Deerstalker on July 02, 2023, 01:00:54 PM
I bought a HW95L .22 from AoA and enjoyed plinking with my wife from our back deck out to 25 yards.  I started having accuracy problems with the rifle shooting like a shotgun.  I chronoed the rifle and the FPS varied by 65 to 75 FPS which indicated something wrong.  Per recommendations on this forum and especially Ron "Bayman" I ordered an ARH kit & a Vortek seal.  Using Youtube videos as a guide I installed the kit & seal after a clean/polish and the FPS stabilized at around 720 while the accuracy returned.  I also contacted AoA and their CS sent me a seal and a couple of barrel hinge washers at no charge.  At 84+ this was a fairly simple fix for a dieseling caused problem on my 95 as these Weihrauch rifles are easy to work on AND the folks on this forum are ALWAYS available to provide help.  I did not worry about the warranty because as Yogi has said you can fix anything on them yourself and they are a lot of fun to work on or at least for me that was the case.

My suggestion is to get your rifle from AoA and enjoy the shooting experience.  My wife & I love chasing the elusive 25 yard MOA group with "OUR" HW95L.