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Airguns by Make and Model => Crosman Airguns => Topic started by: Struckat on February 22, 2023, 03:42:21 PM
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I purchased this 160 stock last week for a project.
160 were made through 1972, does anyone know if the lack of a butt plate makes it older or newer?
Any idea on what kind of wood they used?
Thank you,
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Not sure of the specific age but they used alot of Elm back then and that looks like Elm.
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Has some nice patterns to it. If the project turns out well, I will refinish the stock.
Looks like it was done in the past by a 4 year old.
My 7 yo skill level should be a step up!
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I do think they are Elm cut in a way to best to show the grain, not laminated. I got mine from Numrich for about $22.50 each, I think. I read they bought them from some student shooting program. They have old rather rough finished ones with black butt plates installed and sling swivels. All mine cleaned up nice with a bit of stripper and sanding. With a little modification they make nice Crosman CO2 stocks or Disco stocks. These are the ones I have finished so far. Yours looks really nice and should finish up great. Yours is the first one i've seen without the butt plate. (http://)
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I bought it from Mr. Baker’s eBay store. He had several nice ones.
I am fitting a 1720 to it. Currently sanding the slot wider to fit the trigger group.
Then the big deal will be to cut a hole for the gauge.
I think the will be in the “Critical cut” category that my smart son says I am forbidden to do. I will go to his house for that. Or I need to go and buy a drill press.
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I bought it from Mr. Baker’s eBay store. He had several nice ones.
I am fitting a 1720 to it. Currently sanding the slot wider to fit the trigger group.
Then the big deal will be to cut a hole for the gauge.
I think the will be in the “Critical cut” category that my smart son says I am forbidden to do. I will go to his house for that. Or I need to go and buy a drill press.
Van those look really nice. What did you finish them with? They are nice and dark.
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I used American Walnut stain by Laurel Mountain Forge bought from Track of The Wolf Company. I added a few drops of one of their darker stains to do the top gun pictured.
Alcohol based and penetrates well. They make a lot of colors that you can mix to get different shades. Oil based stains did not work well for me on these stocks. Finish is True Oil rubbed to satin with 0000 steel wool.
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All the old Crosman co2 guns were the best in my opinion, you could charge them up and they'd still be ready to shoot even after a year if they have good o rings and poppet in them.
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Could not bond with the Maximus synthetic stock... All three now wear grandpa's stock... below is Max Maximus... ported to 50 fpe with .22 JSB beast & K.O.
had some of this wood dye... over that used tru oil satinized...
https://www.amazon.com/J-Mosers-Finishes-Alcohol-Circassian/dp/B00EEMRYF4/ref=sr_1_13?crid=1T1I0MQ612G0C&keywords=wood+stain+powder&qid=1677116641&sprefix=wood+stain+powder%2Caps%2C169&sr=8-13 (https://www.amazon.com/J-Mosers-Finishes-Alcohol-Circassian/dp/B00EEMRYF4/ref=sr_1_13?crid=1T1I0MQ612G0C&keywords=wood+stain+powder&qid=1677116641&sprefix=wood+stain+powder%2Caps%2C169&sr=8-13)
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Good lookin' stock Kirby.
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I can't recall seeing one without a butt plate. Might PM Terry, he knows old Crosmans well!
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That’s really nice Kirby.
Doesn’t matter much on th butt as some apparatus may end up on there anyway.
Once I get the slot wide enough I can drop trigger in and judge how deep to dremel for the front and rear.
The tube fits the stock so perfectly, so the idea is to get the depth right so the trigger is also supported by the stock. That way, when the single mounting bolt is secured, it won’t be trying to pull the trigger off the tube.
My arms are tired from sanding the trigger slot.
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I have a first year (1955-56) variant 1 160 Pellgun that I restored. Added a Gander Mtn olive drab sling and Winchester 4x32AO scope with Ron Robinson scope mounts. Has the factory butt plate. Never seen one in plain wood and beveled? Maybe the owner did it rather than searching for a new butt plate. And yes, the wood is Elm. Elm Disease ran rampant across America in the 50's and many were cut down. So, the hardwood was durable, cheap and plentiful. Looks very similar to oak, but ebbs and flows more like water. Oak is more rigid in it's structure, like fingerprints.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/M1O9ug.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pmM1O9ugj)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/0vVO9I.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pn0vVO9Ij)
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IIR I have seen plain wood before, it always had the curve to it, so seems to be a factory thing at some time, maybe a brass like butt plate idea was scrapped ???
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My very first airgun back in the '60s was a Var I 160 "hand me down" of my Uncles to me from my Grand Dad.... it had a butt plate (cracked)
Maybe some woodmaker trimmed / contoured it for his liking?
That is the adventure of these 50+ year old guns. ;D
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My fitting is mostly complete. Wearing a real stock and a Mrod trigger, the 1720 stepped up to a 12x Hawke. the Mrod trigger is quite good as taken out of the envelope
The stock is too thin to support a hole for the gauge so removed it.
I need to fashion a trigger guard and get a better stock mounting bolt, but it’s functional.
Nice balance, 12fpe of sweetness.
Next is refinish the stock and source a cheap adjustable butt plate.
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Your work has made a Sweet Carbine.. 8)
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NICE!!!!
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Question is what is it now, a 1720 crossed with a 160? 1726?
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Finished and waiting on a trigger guard.
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Could this be some kind of dual cartridge 180 stock and not a 160 stock ?
Or possibly from a Sears variant ?
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I found a trigger guard on fleabay that was for some old Remington. I needed to span 4” and it measured a little over 3.5”.
So with some bending it spans the hole. It’s a little shallow, but I have skinny little fingers.
Please ignore the finishing washer and mounting bolt as they are temporary.
I need to find something in black. Likely will plug and re-drill the hole as I missed the mark.
I ruin any wood that gets near me so I am very happy with my first project.
I sanded the 1/4” of varnish off and put two coats of Macarri’s London Oil on it. I like it a lot.
Mounting bolt, a butt pad and I still need to swap the bolt to the other side.
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I believe it was in the mid-60s when Crosman began omitting the butt plate on some of their guns, to keep the price down, I'm sure. Models 180, 400, 140, off the top of my head. I've put Pachmayr butt pads on a couple of them with a refinish, they look pretty slick. The finest Crosman stocks from that time are on the Sears guns. My Ted Williams Match Rifle has a high comb and beavertail fore end, very nicely finished.