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Airguns by Make and Model => Crosman Airguns => Topic started by: tennx on February 14, 2023, 04:26:50 PM
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Saw in an earlier post that these would be available…but no ETA…I fired off email to Crosman below is response…
Hello,
Yes, there will be. I do not know when the timeline will be when we start selling them. I have asked. I will respond when I find out.
I might be interested if its not deemed cost prohibitive…good luck
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I'll definitely buy one if the cost is within reason. I prefer wood over plastic in almost all rifles.
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I'll buy on if the cost is within reason. I prefer wood over plastic in almost all rifles.
Agreed…..good luck
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Ok, gotta ask...
what is an acceptable price for a wood stock, for a US$110.oo rifle?
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Ok, gotta ask...
what is an acceptable price for a wood stock, for a US$110.oo rifle?
I got no clue….but $200 for this particular gun would be my limit….???…this from a guy who was tempted by a super grade…good luck
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When I saw it this morning $199 came to my mind... remember.. it also includes a steel breech.
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Ah, OK.... misunderstood
A 362 with a wood stock. I read that to mean a replacement wood stock.
I remember reading way back when on the old yellow a post some one had made about spending as much on a scope as the gun costs. SO was wondering what an acceptable price would be for just stock, using that "scope $ = gun$" model....
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Yeah, it's also limited edition 100 year anniversary so that will probably add a boost to those folks in marketing. Might be a good idea to buy 2 and keep one in the box until.. say.. 2123 :o
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Put me down for 4 , I bought that many in plastic so far :)
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Pretty sure I'd void the warranty before the first shot... I converted both my 362 to .177 and would do this one as well. I hope they have a better trigger. Would be a shame to waste that walnut stock and steel breech on a wobbly plastic trigger.
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Pretty sure I'd void the warranty before the first shot... I converted both my 362 to .177 and would do this one as well. I hope they have a better trigger. Would be a shame to waste that walnut stock and steel breech on a wobbly plastic trigger.
I know I dont pay enough attention….is there a plug and play trigger pack….all i got is a box of ball point pen springs…lol
Thanks
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Pretty sure I'd void the warranty before the first shot... I converted both my 362 to .177 and would do this one as well. I hope they have a better trigger. Would be a shame to waste that walnut stock and steel breech on a wobbly plastic trigger.
Might have to get their
PCP version of the 362, also is alleged to be in .177 ???
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Pretty sure I'd void the warranty before the first shot... I converted both my 362 to .177 and would do this one as well. I hope they have a better trigger. Would be a shame to waste that walnut stock and steel breech on a wobbly plastic trigger.
I know I dont pay enough attention….is there a plug and play trigger pack….all i got is a box of ball point pen springs…lol
Thanks
There are a couple trigger blades that will work. I'm sure they will have the same 362 trigger pack so a look back at those threads will tell the tale.
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Very interesting. I hope they offer just the stock/forearm as a replacement part. I definitely do not want to start over with all I did to mine. looking forward to seeing what the wood version looks like though. ;)
just saw it in the other thread... WOW!!! that is very nice looking!!! 8)
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It wouldn't surprise me to see this gun priced at 300 or more, with the improvements. Walnut stocks are not cheap nowadays. I see they are introducing a model 367 in .177 caliber.
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A wood stocked 362 might just be the nudge I need to get one. We’ll see
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Who cares about wood if the trigger is garbage.
I added the 2 stage trigger off of a Benjamin Marauder Pistol to my Crosman 362. I then had to trim/sand the forearm and re-locate the magnet. It also uses the normal Crosman Carbine Stock now, like all my other crosmans.
It really made this gun better to shoot! The 362 is setup short for a 12-14 year old, not an adult. Changing the stock to the 1300 one, fixes this.
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Those triggers can be made pretty nice with just a couple screws.
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Crosman always sends me emails about their sales, hopefully they'll send me one when this gun is up for sale.
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Those triggers can be made pretty nice with just a couple screws.
Thanks for adding the photo.
Looks like the front sight and shiny bolt handle are new.
I would like to have this wood version. Should be enough available for everyone. Someone said they would make 2023 of them.
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I thought the upper - breech, barrel and front site were reminiscent of the discovery rifle.
Crosman just confirmed they will start taking orders early this summer. Lets hope they aren’t delayed.
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Well If Im lucky enough to get one ….I hope I can leave it alone…lol…not even an LDC…
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Thanks for that exploded picture... that trigger certainly does not look plastic like the 362.
yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if this gun sells for near the $300 mark.
Other than the want, I don't really have the need.... unless someone wanted to buy a 392s to offset the funds.... ;)
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Appears to also have a trigger. Also a aluminum safety maybe? That's definitely a beautiful pumper!
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That thing looks really good. But it will suffer from the same thing the 392 suffers from. When you put a scope on that steel breech you don't have a good place
to put your hand while pumping. And yes I know you can use the scope for leverage but most don't really like doing that.
Ray
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Following..
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This is one I will be getting, the wood, steel breech, updated safety and trigger blade are about all I need. I also like the new location of the rear sight, but not so sure about the change to the front sight.
Right now my team of rifles is getting nervous as I will be looking at making a few roster cuts to add this rookie to the lineup. Time to work on the short list - maybe.
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That thing looks really good. But it will suffer from the same thing the 392 suffers from. When you put a scope on that steel breech you don't have a good place
to put your hand while pumping. And yes I know you can use the scope for leverage but most don't really like doing that.
Ray
I place my hand on the turrets and "pinch" the front rings to pump mine. Never had an issue.
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This is one I will be getting, the wood, steel breech, updated safety and trigger blade are about all I need. I also like the new location of the rear sight, but not so sure about the change to the front sight.
Right now my team of rifles is getting nervous as I will be looking at making a few roster cuts to add this rookie to the lineup. Time to work on the short list - maybe.
Ha! The sports team recruitment and cutting metaphor... exactly where my head was without knowing how to say it so well!
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I dont have an anniversary anything…Im rethinking …lol…good luck
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I dont have an anniversary anything…Im rethinking …lol…good luck
I think I have a Silver Anniversary Daisy 880 around here someplace. It's black with a silver shroud and silver lettering. Probably displayed somewhere in the bar/mancave. That's where most all of my classic and vintage stuff is.
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A wood stock option is what I need to make a 362 purchase happen, but I'm not sure this is that gun.
It's a real shame Crosman doesn't just do a basic non fancy wood stock version for $199.
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When several of us first received these 362s we began to tinker and mod. I have a feeling that Crosman was watching because many of us expressed our wishes for wood stocks, steel breeches, better triggers and the option for .177.
Lo and behold, this is exactly what we have here.
I would even go as far as to say that, this will become a mainstream Crosman offering minus the 100 year Anniversary badging. Looks like Crosman may even be gearing up to reopen the custom shop.
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I need to have one regardless of the cost.
There is already too much cheap plastic shite from Crosman out there.
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When several of us first received these 362s we began to tinker and mod. I have a feeling that Crosman was watching because many of us expressed our wishes for wood stocks, steel breeches, better triggers and the option for .177.
Lo and behold, this is exactly what we have here.
I would even go as far as to say that, this will become a mainstream Crosman offering minus the 100 year Anniversary badging. Looks like Crosman may even be gearing up to reopen the custom shop.
We had some involvement from one of the Crosman engineers in the original threads so we know we had their attention at least in some form. At the very least, we know they were aware of our concerns and the mods we all did. I am looking forward to seeing more detail of this new version as time goes on. I would love to see the 362 in the custom shop and I hope you are right about it's long overdue re-opening. With the barrel shortages they still seem to be experiencing... it is still just a waiting game. Hopefully soon now though. ;)
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Me like...
wonder if the 100 year anniversary Legacy/2100 is plastic or cast Zamak alloy..?
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Me like...
wonder if the 100 year anniversary Legacy/2100 is plastic or cast Zamak alloy..?
I don't know but regardless I don't really think the gun is worthy of commemorating the 100 year anniversary of the gun.
They could do a 2240 with a steel breech and some special 100th anniversary wood grips which would be worthy.
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Crosman model 1923 was the first gun they built that was a pumper, I can understand why they chose the 362 for the 100th anniversary because it's also a pumper.
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Me like...
wonder if the 100 year anniversary Legacy/2100 is plastic or cast Zamak alloy..?
I don't know but regardless I don't really think the gun is worthy of commemorating the 100 year anniversary of the gun.
They could do a 2240 with a steel breech and some special 100th anniversary wood grips which would be worthy.
well let's agree to disagree and agree. ;) might get one just cause am a Crosman/Benji guy from way back... but do not really much like the smooth stock and pump arm... but if the receiver is not plastic the bones of a decent backyard rifle are still there...
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Crosman model 1923 was the first gun they built that was a pumper, I can understand why they chose the 362 for the 100th anniversary because it's also a pumper.
Thats what I was thinking too … 22 cal as .177 didn’t happen till many years later.
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I put wood on 2 of my 2100s and a 2200. I don't think anything they come out with in that series that don't include wood could replace either of those for me. If they did ad wood it would most likely be a 2200 because they would have to redesign or eliminate the BB option on the 2100.
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I put wood on 2 of my 2100s and a 2200. I don't think anything they come out with in that series that don't include wood could replace either of those for me. If they did ad wood it would most likely be a 2200 because they would have to redesign or eliminate the BB option on the 2100.
Well, not 'zactly.....
The 2100W still shoots BB's, but the bulk load/magazine features are gone....
Gotta load those lil round critters one-at-a-time.........
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I put wood on 2 of my 2100s and a 2200. I don't think anything they come out with in that series that don't include wood could replace either of those for me. If they did ad wood it would most likely be a 2200 because they would have to redesign or eliminate the BB option on the 2100.
Well, not 'zactly.....
The 2100W still shoots BB's, but the bulk load/magazine features are gone....
Gotta load those lil round critters one-at-a-time.........
True but bb accuracy is not worthy.. at least for me.
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I put wood on 2 of my 2100s and a 2200. I don't think anything they come out with in that series that don't include wood could replace either of those for me. If they did ad wood it would most likely be a 2200 because they would have to redesign or eliminate the BB option on the 2100.
Well, not 'zactly.....
The 2100W still shoots BB's, but the bulk load/magazine features are gone....
Gotta load those lil round critters one-at-a-time.........
True but bb accuracy is not worthy.. at least for me.
A moot point, but a separate issue....... ;)
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One thing is for sure... Crosman managed to get people talking about the 362 again. ;)
I love the look of the stock, and the trigger group "appears" to have a metal trigger, hopefully improved trigger group overall. It comes with the Steel breach already on it which is a plus. It looks like the sight is on a muzzle break or something similar. The original had razor sharp edges in all the blanked slots/holes and I doubt that will change with this Anniversary edition, but one can hope they addressed that. The Barrel will most likely be the same as the original version, which was a toss up in accuracy for those who bought them. I doubt seriously this will list for less than $200. I dunno know? If this is a "limited number made" type gun and when they are gone, they are gone... the race will be on for those who have to have it.
I will play it safe. Read the posts and see how people review it. My interest would be the stock and if it is available by itself as a spare part at some point in time.
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The black plastic piece at the end of the pump arm is fugly…wont stop me from purchasing if I choose…but do wish they had tried a little harder…good luck
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Just noticed that sleeve and rear sight ahead of the steel breech... we've seen this before.
The front sight and muzzle break is the same one I used on my Willie G. Stubbs 2240 build.
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Yeah, this gun is going to be loud and proud. ;)
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Me like...
wonder if the 100 year anniversary Legacy/2100 is plastic or cast Zamak alloy..?
I don't know but regardless I don't really think the gun is worthy of commemorating the 100 year anniversary of the gun.
They could do a 2240 with a steel breech and some special 100th anniversary wood grips which would be worthy.
well let's agree to disagree and agree. ;) might get one just cause am a Crosman/Benji guy from way back... but do not really much like the smooth stock and pump arm... but if the receiver is not plastic the bones of a decent backyard rifle are still there...
Exactly.
Besides, the 2240’s got too many aftermarket parts already.
The anniversary edition 362, with just the furniture, would be very much worth my while.
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I'm in. Been waiting a long time for this gun.
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SNEAK PEEK!! Rendering and one of the testing units.
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SNEAK PEEK!! Rendering and one of the testing units.
When are they available, John sir?
The price, too ;D
Thanks!
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Are the mounting holes for that Williams peep on them from stock?
Nevermind... looks like you did that. Looks great.
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Is it here yet…..lol…in another post about where guns were kept…..Im prepared to add an addition to the den.. ;)
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True but bb accuracy is not worthy.. at least for me
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All my current Daisy are pretty accurate out to 20 feet….but I swear as a 9 year old my cheap daisy (not even a RR) was killing birds at a 100 yards…LOL ;)
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looks like we're shipping the end of April. Limited quantity of 2,023. The Turkish Walnut stocks look great. I'm not sure about the price yet. I'm only an engineer! lol
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looks like we're shipping the end of April. Limited quantity of 2,023. The Turkish Walnut stocks look great. I'm not sure about the price yet. I'm only an engineer! lol
Thanks…..hope us regular folk can get a couple before the scalpers get em…lol
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looks like we're shipping the end of April. Limited quantity of 2,023. The Turkish Walnut stocks look great. I'm not sure about the price yet. I'm only an engineer! lol
Thank you, sir :D
Gonna display it in my living room 👍
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Me like...
wonder if the 100 year anniversary Legacy/2100 is plastic or cast Zamak alloy..?
I don't know but regardless I don't really think the gun is worthy of commemorating the 100 year anniversary of the gun.
They could do a 2240 with a steel breech and some special 100th anniversary wood grips which would be worthy.
well let's agree to disagree and agree. ;) might get one just cause am a Crosman/Benji guy from way back... but do not really much like the smooth stock and pump arm... but if the receiver is not plastic the bones of a decent backyard rifle are still there...
what I think would be worthy is a 2023 version of the 75th anniversary 2200w... a big feather in their cap would be if it was available in .177, .20, and .22.. ;)
https://www.bakerairguns.com/product/crosman-2200w/ (https://www.bakerairguns.com/product/crosman-2200w/)
I like my Blueprinted/tuned 2100b a lot for the backyard... the only mods are the old metal piston and a couple barrel stabilizers...
I do think that the 362 100 year anniversary edition is a very worthy endeavor... I know I want one...or two.. ;)
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NY-AirPower I am willing to offer my “average Tim” experience if you need help evaluating the Anniversary 362.
I can ask my vintage Crosman MSPs to provide references if needed.
Thanks for the pics
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On my radar, this version of the 362 is going to be popular.
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SNEAK PEEK!! Rendering and one of the testing units.
It looks amazing John! The stock is beautiful and the brass bolt, trigger, and safety is a very nice touch ;D. Did you guys do any improvements to the pump linkage to make it less wobbly then the original 362? Is the barrel the same in house barrel that was on the original?
We always appreciate you folks popping in to give us updates... you guys are awesome! ;D
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Wondering how the front end of the stock where the wood ends looks in person or from other angles? In the catalog, it looks as if the wood suddenly becomes plastic... but maybe it's metal?
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Wondering how the front end of the stock where the wood ends looks in person or from other angles? In the catalog, it looks as if the wood suddenly becomes plastic... but maybe it's metal?
Looks like the same part from the synthetic stock version.
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They said they were going to run 400 (?) of these 100 year guns. I wonder if they are going to continue offering them without the badge.
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They said they were going to run 400 (?) of these 100 year guns. I wonder if they are going to continue offering them without the badge.
Hmm I thought it was a 2000 gun run, makes more sense to the manufacturing cost of an item.
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They said they were going to run 400 (?) of these 100 year guns. I wonder if they are going to continue offering them without the badge.
Hmm I thought it was a 2000 gun run, makes more sense to the manufacturing cost of an item.
Could be 2000... I didn't recheck and just went off memory... which seems to have failed me alot lately.. :o
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go one page back, reply #55... "limited quantity of 2,023" shipping at the end of April if I read Johns post correctly.
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go one page back, reply #55... "limited quantity of 2,023" shipping at the end of April if I read Johns post correctly.
I was told this in an email also….👍
I dont want to call Crosman ….cheap…….but the tip of the forearm appears the same as my 362 Syn….I can’t imagine them doing anything different …regardless of price of gun…..good luck
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go one page back, reply #55... "limited quantity of 2,023" shipping at the end of April if I read Johns post correctly.
I was told this in an email also….👍
I dont want to call Crosman ….cheap…….but the tip of the forearm appears the same as my 362 Syn….I can’t imagine them doing anything different …regardless of price of gun…..good luck
I can’t see a way that the forearm extension piece could be made of wood and be strong enough to last.
The best they could do is mold it in brown plastic. Wouldn’t be surprised if they did that. If I get one, I would paint the lower part of it brown to better match the wood.
Wouldn’t bother me if it’s not all original.
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go one page back, reply #55... "limited quantity of 2,023" shipping at the end of April if I read Johns post correctly.
I was told this in an email also….👍
I dont want to call Crosman ….cheap…….but the tip of the forearm appears the same as my 362 Syn….I can’t imagine them doing anything different …regardless of price of gun…..good luck
Kind of cool their thinking on the number they chose to produce. The 100th anniversary in 2023 and they will make 2023 of them. 8)
I don't dislike the original black 362 barrel band with this, it is just a little off with the wood stock. It probably wasn't cost effective to re-manufacture them in brown when they have them already in black. Still, they made a number of other changes and to color match this piece would have been better. It is still amazing looking though. ;)
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That forend piece/barrel band is the main reason I haven't started making a wood stock yet. Nothing wrong with the part, just looks odd on a wood stock. I have a walnut blank and an uninletted Boyds stock ready but can't decide how to do the forend tip.
I wish somebody would make an aftermarket aluminum band similar to the ones for 13xx's. The pivot hole isn't centered on the tube on the 362, so the 13xx ones can't be used.
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You all know CROSMAN has us by the b@11$.
We sit and wait for the next generation of the wood stocked 362.
It was just several months back we all sat around saying we will pre-order our 362 at least one of them, and then we all needed a steel receiver
to add to each of our "BRAND NEW 362" ;D
Next will be the 367 plastic , followed by the 367 wood.
We will have them all 8)
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Get your order in while you can!
https://www.crosman.com/product/crosman-362-one-hundred-year-edition (https://www.crosman.com/product/crosman-362-one-hundred-year-edition)
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After receiving my standard C362 I decided not to purchase the anniversary edition. The value in those guns is that they are limited editions. They're more valuable NIB than if they have been shot. My guns are shooters. I expect a wood stock will become available for the standard C362 either after market or from the Crosman custom shop. So If I want one I'll just upgrade.
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After receiving my standard C362 I decided not to purchase the anniversary edition. The value in those guns is that they are limited editions. They're more valuable NIB than if they have been shot. My guns are shooters. I expect a wood stock will become available for the standard C362 either after market or from the Crosman custom shop. So If I want one I'll just upgrade.
I like the way u think…..hard pass for me also…good luck
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I, for one, would not trade 4 362 for one of these.
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I think I’m money ahead. The anniversary model addresses several things I woulda changed had I bit on the 362 when it was introduced, like steel breech, better front site, upgraded trigger and wood furniture.
I’ll be shooting mine and if it doesn’t measure up I figure I m not out much if anything.
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If a wood 367 comes out, I might bite! Until then, me and Dragonfly here are ok just the two of us.
Hmmm... I do like the peep sight set up though [chuckling]. Anybody know what peep comes with it?
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pic is a williams peep installed.
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pic is a williams peep installed.
Thanks!
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Looks good, albeit a little pricy.
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Actually... it is not just any Williams peep.. ;) The 362 breech is a 362 only milled breech just so it can use the 5D-SH Williams that it's Benji/Sheridan forefathers use...Small but meaningful touch...
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1005985561/ (https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1005985561/)
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Yep, it's not the peep that is special... it's the milled, drilled and tapped breech.
However, I'm pretty sure that our equipped members could do this.
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Yep, it's not the peep that is special... it's the milled, drilled and tapped breech.
However, I'm pretty sure that our equipped members could do this.
The sight and breech help explain the somewhat crazy price.
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Yikes! Yeah too pricey. Hard pass for me as well. It's a beauty for sure but I think I will just wait and upgrade my current one with a wood stock if one ever comes available. ;)
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just home from work and thought I see it still available and getting a 404 error page not found. Did crosman sell out already? Site crash? glad I printed my order confirmation.
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just home from work and thought I see it still available and getting a 404 error page not found. Did crosman sell out already? Site crash? glad I printed my order confirmation.
They’re probably no more ??? ;D
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just home from work and thought I see it still available and getting a 404 error page not found. Did crosman sell out already? Site crash? glad I printed my order confirmation.
They’re probably no more ??? ;D
Or they are releasing them in small doses to make them last. Didn't they say there would be 400?
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If that is the case. More real pics and reviews get out and maybe some on the fence get another chance.
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just home from work and thought I see it still available and getting a 404 error page not found. Did crosman sell out already? Site crash? glad I printed my order confirmation.
They’re probably no more ??? ;D
Or they are releasing them in small doses to make them last. Didn't they say there would be 400?
What I believe was said ...is that there would be 2023 made at $400.00 each, as per Crosman's ad for this model.
The custom stock would be made from select Turkish Walnut.
The Crosman 362 100 Year Edition model would be equipped with a steel breech.
I can't remember the rest.
It also would be equipped with a Discovery-like Barrel Sleeve (think Part 1761-013) on which the rear sight is mounted as per Hard Air Magazine.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwi7mOH09dz-AhVsLUQIHVA1DmsQFnoECA4QAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhardairmagazine.com%2Fnews%2Fcrosman-362-100-year-edition-and-more-new-guns-for-2023%2F&usg=AOvVaw3kis9RZQmCnyu38VfUU_-7 (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwi7mOH09dz-AhVsLUQIHVA1DmsQFnoECA4QAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhardairmagazine.com%2Fnews%2Fcrosman-362-100-year-edition-and-more-new-guns-for-2023%2F&usg=AOvVaw3kis9RZQmCnyu38VfUU_-7)
They may.. or may not... be all gone by now.
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just home from work and thought I see it still available and getting a 404 error page not found. Did crosman sell out already? Site crash? glad I printed my order confirmation.
They’re probably no more ??? ;D
Or they are releasing them in small doses to make them last. Didn't they say there would be 400?
What I believe was said ...is that there would be 2023 made at $400.00 each, as per Crosman's ad for this model.
The custom stock would be made from select Turkish Walnut.
The Crosman 362 100 Year Edition model would be equipped with a steel breech.
It also would be equipped with a Discovery-like Barrel Sleeve (think Part 1761-013) on which the rear sight is mounted.
I can't remember the rest.
They may.. or may not... be all gone by now.
If that's the case, pardon my confusion.
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just home from work and thought I see it still available and getting a 404 error page not found. Did crosman sell out already? Site crash? glad I printed my order confirmation.
They’re probably no more ??? ;D
Or they are releasing them in small doses to make them last. Didn't they say there would be 400?
What I believe was said ...is that there would be 2023 made at $400.00 each, as per Crosman's ad for this model.
The custom stock would be made from select Turkish Walnut.
The Crosman 362 100 Year Edition model would be equipped with a steel breech.
It also would be equipped with a Discovery-like Barrel Sleeve (think Part 1761-013) on which the rear sight is mounted.
I can't remember the rest.
They may.. or may not... be all gone by now.
If that's the case, pardon my confusion.
It's all very confusing Biil.
Now with the Crosman ad site not responding, there is no way to go back to check on details and facts.
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Took some searching but I found it... as for the quantity, you are quite right Tom.
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I suspect Crosman will continue offering wood stock 362's, but they won't be the centennial edition. I could be wrong, but it would seem like a mistake to do otherwise. The Custom Shop coming back online is another hint that Crosman wants to expand market share.
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If just the wood set is offered at a reasonable price I might be interested.
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Anyone know what the size of the aperture is?
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Anyone know what the size of the aperture is?
It's a Williams 5D-SH
Aperture is 3/9 x 0.093"
https://shop.williamsgunsight.com/ecommerce/p/5dsheridan-sh-001418 (https://shop.williamsgunsight.com/ecommerce/p/5dsheridan-sh-001418)
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Not too long ago you couldn't find one of these peeps in stock anywhere. I wonder if Crosman buying them all up for these guns had anything to do with that?
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Not too long ago you couldn't find one of these peeps in stock anywhere. I wonder if Crosman buying them all up for these guns had anything to do with that?
As we know the peep is right hand mount….can the peep be swapped to the left…mine dont appear to be capable…unless Im just not seeing it….good luck
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If it was a .177 and the agnation code worked, I'd probably bite. 300 is about where I can usually afford to spend and money is a bit tighter than usual lately (I'd probably use card points I've been building up for years to pay for it!).
I like the peep setup alot. And the trigger might be good [fingers crossed for those who buy]. The wood looks well stippled (better than the recent NP line stippling). Seems thoughtfully done except for the plastic at the front of the pump arm, which might be a pricing bottleneck as others have speculated.
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As we know the peep is right hand mount….can the peep be swapped to the left…mine dont appear to be capable…good luck
That's a good point Phil... wouldn't that change the Williams part number?
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If it was a .177 and the agnation code worked, I'd probably bite. 300 is about where I can usually afford to spend and money is a bit tighter than usual lately (I'd probably use card points I've been building up for years to pay for it!).
I like the peep setup alot. And the trigger might be good [fingers crossed for those who buy]. The wood looks well stippled (better than the recent NP line stippling). Seems thoughtfully done except for the plastic at the front of the pump arm, which might be a pricing bottleneck as others have speculated.
If I'm being honest.. I like my DF2 better. For one thing, the repeater breech. Another is the price.
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More anniversary 362’s available? Shipping est. June 13th
https://www.crosman.com/product/crosman-362-one-hundred-year-edition?utm_source=in_stock_notifications&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=stock_notifications (https://www.crosman.com/product/crosman-362-one-hundred-year-edition?utm_source=in_stock_notifications&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=stock_notifications)
Oops as usual late again! K.O. discovered this 2 days ago
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=207776.msg156449599#msg156449599 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=207776.msg156449599#msg156449599)
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Wonder if those ordered earlier this month will ship mid June now?
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Wonder if those ordered earlier this month will ship mid June now?
If we're lucky.
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Just emailed Crosman support about my pre-order purchase made on May 3rd for the 100th Anniversary Edition of the 362. The support person responded back indicating it was human error that occured in May, but regardless of their error my order is still valid and will ship in mid June.
Well looks like this will now looks like my Fathers Day present will arrive on or about the same time instead of early.
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Just received confirmation that my Anniversary 362 is on its way! I’m so close to the factory delivery is scheduled for TODAY! Could it really be waiting for me when I get home from work this afternoon?? 🤔
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I just got a shipping confirmation too, at long last...
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When did you guys place our pre-orders??
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my order went in on may 6th.
Whew! Got home 5 minutes B4 delivery arrived and had to sign for package.
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my order went in on may 6th.
Whew! Got home 5 minutes B4 delivery arrived and had to sign for package.
This is gonna be good
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my order went in on may 6th.
Whew! Got home 5 minutes B4 delivery arrived and had to sign for package.
Show us the contents please :-*
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my order went in on may 6th.
Whew! Got home 5 minutes B4 delivery arrived and had to sign for package.
Show us the contents please :-*
Yes, please.... ;D
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Until we see some picks….its just an urban myth…then of course details ….good luck
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No shipping notice for mine... so called customer service...was given a tracking #... was shipped yesterday and will be here the 25th...
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seems like Richard, Dan, and Phil are in a hurry to see pics of your woodie Tim...
I have to admit I would like pics n info also... like to know for sure if the trigger and safety are actually brass and not plated plastic...
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seems like Richard, Dan, and Phil are in a hurry to see pics of your woodie Tim...
I have to admit I would like pics n info also... like to know for sure if the trigger and safety are actually brass and not plated plastic...
Yes, sir 👍
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Sorry - this is my first 362 (s/n 213 of 2023) and I was distracted checking it out and thinking about what to do first to void the warranty!
Plus a pulled a couple dry patches through the barrel before checking function and getting some initial fps numbers.
14.3 CPHPs 8 pumps 670-675fps.
14gr Daisy Max Speed wadcutter 6 pumps 620fps.
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Sorry - this is my first 362 (s/n 213 of 2023) and I was distracted checking it out and thinking about what to do first to void the warranty!
Plus a pulled a couple dry patches through the barrel before checking function and getting some initial fps numbers.
14.3 CPHPs 8 pumps 670-675fps.
14gr Daisy Max Speed wadcutter 6 pumps 620fps.
Congrats…good looking shooter…I see the peep actually does mount on the left….I wish I had an extra disposable $400…have fun and good luck
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Sorry - this is my first 362 (s/n 213 of 2023) and I was distracted checking it out and thinking about what to do first to void the warranty!
Plus a pulled a couple dry patches through the barrel before checking function and getting some initial fps numbers.
14.3 CPHPs 8 pumps 670-675fps.
14gr Daisy Max Speed wadcutter 6 pumps 620fps.
Well I have 3 362s to void the warranty with... in fact two are already modded with hogged out ported valves and steel breeches... one has a "tuned" 24" .22 barrel and the other sports a "tuned" 26" .177 barrel....
will be leaving the limited edition as is...will be sending lead with it here and there... but for the most part will be a keepsake for my youngest...
did it come as two boxes..? what is in the red white and gold box..? Grain on stock does seem to indicate that it is made from a single blank... that is a big plus to me... it takes more skill to do and likely more $ for blank and labor...
have fun... am looking forward to getting my daughters 362 L.E. ... looks dang good... especially set with the wood floor backdrop...
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did it come as two boxes..? what is in the red white and gold box..? Grain on stock does seem to indicate that it is made from a single blank... that is a big plus to me... it takes more skill to do and likely more $ for blank and labor...
have fun... am looking forward to getting my daughters 362 L.E. ...
Double boxed. the red white is a sleeve that slips over the 100 years 362 rifle box.
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Looks dandy 👍
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Very nice looking Rifle! 8)
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did it come as two boxes..? what is in the red white and gold box..? Grain on stock does seem to indicate that it is made from a single blank... that is a big plus to me... it takes more skill to do and likely more $ for blank and labor...
have fun... am looking forward to getting my daughters 362 L.E. ...
Double boxed. the red white is a sleeve that slips over the 100 years 362 rifle box.
thanks...
In another thread I stated that I was hoping for what I call select grade walnut for the stock... well at least on the side you show on yours it is the high end of that... not one single small flaw or pin knot that I can see... not one bit of sap wood... it also looks to have excellent grain flow... if mine is the equal or even near equal of yours I will be happy... I prefer it over the fancy/exhibition grades because it tends to be slightly stronger and more stable...plus I just prefer the way it looks...
MHO is that stock itself would be 180$-250$ or more now days...
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No disappointments with this Anniversary 362 having read most of the discussions since the 362 was introduced. Sighted in at 30’ in the basement. 14.3 CPHPs grouped very well with 6 pumps but opened up with 8. So will have to experiment to see what pellet it likes at max pumps.
One thing I didn’t expect or didn’t recall reading about was the trigger. It was SURPRISINGLY good! A bit heavy and a little 2nd stage creep but not terrible. Nothing in the manual about it being adjustable.
Tomorrow is supposed to a clear day. So I can get better pics after work.
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No disappointments with this Anniversary 362 having read most of the discussions since the 362 was introduced. Sighted in at 30’ in the basement. 14.3 CPHPs grouped very well with 6 pumps but opened up with 8. So will have to experiment to see what pellet it likes at max pumps.
One thing I didn’t expect or didn’t recall reading about was the trigger. It was SURPRISINGLY good! A bit heavy and a little 2nd stage creep but not terrible. Nothing in the manual about it being adjustable.
Tomorrow is supposed to a clear day. So I can get better pics after work.
Curious if the butt stock’s emblem is plastic or metal ???
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Some xtra pics of Anniversary 362. Emblem is definitely some sort of metal!
I can’t believe crosman didn’t install a filler piece in the pivot end of the tube. Current 13xx and 760’s have them not sure about Legacy rifles but how much would an xtra bit of plastic have added to the bottom line. The off set pin location (similar to Sheridan) really should have something to help firm up that area. But -
Stock appears to be cut from same piece of wood!
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Too many pics for 1 post. So here a a few more.
Steel breech, rear screw location, bolt with extended probe tip.
Bumper embedded in the pump arm.
If noise is an issue keep an eye out for a old disco mod adaper.
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Looks really nice :-*
Thanks for the emblem info.
That rifle would look nice with a short moderator 👍
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Too many pics for 1 post. So here a a few more.
Steel breech, rear screw location, bolt with extended probe tip.
Bumper embedded in the pump arm.
If noise is an issue keep an eye out for a old disco mod adaper.
Looks great
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Some xtra pics of Anniversary 362. Emblem is definitely some sort of metal!
I can’t believe crosman didn’t install a filler piece in the pivot end of the tube. Current 13xx and 760’s have them not sure about Legacy rifles but how much would an xtra bit of plastic have added to the bottom line. The off set pin location (similar to Sheridan) really should have something to help firm up that area. But -
Stock appears to be cut from same piece of wood!
I hear you.
I made one from aluminum and another from Acetal.
Also made a thick spacer to fill in between the link pivot.
Really tightens up the pump experience.
Sent some pictures to Buck Rail a few months ago to see if he would be interested in 3D printing them.
Haven't got a response just crickets.
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Also made a thick spacer to fill in between the link pivot.
Really tightens up the pump experience.
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=206104.0;attach=437698;image (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=206104.0;attach=437698;image)
Ron,
thank you for confirming. Is the spacer also Acetal?
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Also made a thick spacer to fill in between the link pivot.
Really tightens up the pump experience.
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=206104.0;attach=437698;image (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=206104.0;attach=437698;image)
Ron,
thank you for confirming. Is the spacer also Acetal?
Yes, if it's black it's Acetal but I've made them from aluminum and brass also.
Actually what I ended up doing with my 362 is cut 4" off the tube and made it into a 5" stroke.
Center drilled the tube and used a stock 13xx barrel band and 2100 pump link.
Gun is even easier to pump also but takes 10 pumps to equal the 8 strokes of the 362. (10x5=50", 8x6.375=51")
Made a a highly controversial shark pump arm.
Basically a Lego 2100 and I like it a lot better.
Not sure why Crosman went with the 6 3/8" stroke and offset pump link.
Here's a link to the build:
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=196009.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=196009.0)
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one thing that helped accuracy on 2 of my 362s on 7&8 pumps was to loosen the barrel band grub screw pump it 8 times ,then while under pressure re tighten the grub screw... helped on the 24" .22 barrel a little helped the 26" .177 barrel more...I think it will be different on each rifle tho...
early on I said I thought the 362 L.E. should come with a threaded front sight mount/Mbreak... that is exactly the one I think I had seen and envisioned... never could find it again tho... just the regular Disco front sight mount...wanted it for my maximus... what model was that from? or did you make it from a maximus threaded adapter with the disco sight..?
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Looks like a DonnyFL Disco adapter with a Williams Disco sight from Crosman.
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could be...
there was one other thing on my wish list... I was hoping front sight would have the grooves like the 788-010 sight to make it possible to fit a front sight hood...
I have always felt you automatically center the front sight with the hood when using a rear peep sight... just slightly quicker sighting and maybe just a touch more natural accuracy...
plus I just like the looks... made the 761xl look good.. ;)
and just seems to belong on the rifle with the rear peep imo...
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could be...
there was one other thing on my wish list... I was hoping front sight would have the grooves like the 788-010 sight to make it possible to fit a front sight hood...
I have always felt you automatically center the front sight with the hood when using a rear peep sight... just slightly quicker sighting and maybe just a touch more natural accuracy...
plus I just like the looks... made the 761xl look good.. ;)
and just seems to belong on the rifle with the rear peep imo...
No grooves on that one.
The 2nd item is what you’re looking for, but it’s not threaded and quite expensive:
https://www.suppressor-thread-adapter.com/cnc-machined-parts-for-firearms-or-airguns/?v=7516fd43adaa (https://www.suppressor-thread-adapter.com/cnc-machined-parts-for-firearms-or-airguns/?v=7516fd43adaa)
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well, that would probably come close to what I want...
but...
almost all dovetail globe sights I have seen for years are tall... I am one who wants low mount when sending lower fpe rounds...especially high drag pellets.. ;)
So the Lyman #93 globe front sight might be low enough... https://freelandssports.com/product/lyman-93-match-globe-front-sight/ (https://freelandssports.com/product/lyman-93-match-globe-front-sight/)
but that would be about another Franklin added to the price for the setup...
I was talking about like this with the hood that just snaps into the grooves... https://www.jgairguns.biz/761-c-78_89_174/crs761006-front-sight-p-11007.html (https://www.jgairguns.biz/761-c-78_89_174/crs761006-front-sight-p-11007.html)
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I can’t believe crosman didn’t install a filler piece in the pivot end of the tube. Current 13xx and 760’s have them not sure about Legacy rifles but how much would an xtra bit of plastic have added to the bottom line. The off set pin location (similar to Sheridan) really should have something to help firm up that area. But -
I was surprised by this too. Such a simple thing that they put in other less expensive guns. I have one of Ron's Black versions in mine and you would not believe how well it tightens up the pump arm. No slop at all and still as easy and smooth as it was before. It is surprising that folks like Mellon, Alchemy, Alliance or others haven't picked this up as an aftermarket upgrade part.
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I’m not a machinist but where there’s a will, there’s a way. I could cut the post off a 13xx sight, clean up the solid end to fit the tube and relocate the pin holes. It wouldn’t be as pretty as Ron’s - so if you happen make any more Ron, LMK. It just has to work.
Also thinking about a barrel spacer, like the 13xx and 2260 used to have. It could help barrel stability and I’ve always liked the look and used 1 on my Cothran Disco build (2260 length tube). I have a 2260 spacer but it is short so would have to splice 2 pieces together.
I’m going to have to go back and reread how many of you improved the mechanics of your 362s.
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could be...
there was one other thing on my wish list... I was hoping front sight would have the grooves like the 788-010 sight to make it possible to fit a front sight hood...
I have always felt you automatically center the front sight with the hood when using a rear peep sight... just slightly quicker sighting and maybe just a touch more natural accuracy...
plus I just like the looks... made the 761xl look good.. ;)
and just seems to belong on the rifle with the rear peep imo...
No grooves on that one.
The 2nd item is what you’re looking for, but it’s not threaded and quite expensive:
https://www.suppressor-thread-adapter.com/cnc-machined-parts-for-firearms-or-airguns/?v=7516fd43adaa (https://www.suppressor-thread-adapter.com/cnc-machined-parts-for-firearms-or-airguns/?v=7516fd43adaa)
oops meant the 788-101 front sight... the 2260 n such front sight...
if Crosman had made the 100 year legacy like they showed in pics with it using the 2100 zinc/zamak reciever... well I had been watching for a set of the Crosman 411 match sights for their clamshell rifles... alas was not to be... the receiver was not as represented and is plastic so was very disappointed and it is going back...
but yeah this is what would have been on it... https://www.ebay.com/itm/325140490331 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/325140490331)
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just checked fed ex now says mine will be here Wednesday instead of Tues... wondering and hoping about the wood lottery till then... did ok on my Hatsan Hydra but I feel your stock is a bit higher quality... on my hydra it has one pin knot and some compression wood... would rate it as High economy grade...
took a good look at your pics of trigger and safety... looks maybe like colored plastic not brass but hard to really judge..? What is your impression..?
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just checked fed ex now says mine will be here Wednesday instead of Tues... wondering and hoping about the wood lottery till then... did ok on my Hatsan Hydra but I feel your stock is a bit higher quality... on my hydra it has one pin knot and some compression wood... would rate it as High economy grade...
I think they will all have great lumber, the LE 362s.
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Well coming up with 2023 blanks there is bound to be some variance in quality and a larger variance in appearance, figure and grain flow(especialy important at wrist)...
The mineral streaking in Tim's is subtle and adds just enough character to be a plus in my book...sometimes it is much less subtle and is a matter of taste whether you can call it striking or not... or ugly...
Tims stock is exactly to my taste and exactly the stable grain flow I like... my hydra well the left side makes it economy grade with the right side select grade even with the small pin knot near the butt... low side sets grade...
me I have never much like the stump/rootball wood for stocks... https://www.westleyrichards.com/theexplora/gunstocks-from-turkish-tree-to-stockers-bench/ (https://www.westleyrichards.com/theexplora/gunstocks-from-turkish-tree-to-stockers-bench/)
oh forgot... needs sanded and refinished cause the machining marks left under finish really show up(the strait lines stand out)... but hey it's a $220 refurb.. ;)
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took a good look at your pics of trigger and safety... looks maybe like colored plastic not brass but hard to really judge..? What is your impression..?
Trigger, safety and housing are all metal. Side cover of housing appears plastic. I haven’t removed the stock for a more thorough examination.
Looking forward to pics of your 2023 362. If this stock is a one off, and I hope its not, I should box it up and buy another as a shooter.
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took a good look at your pics of trigger and safety... looks maybe like colored plastic not brass but hard to really judge..? What is your impression..?
Trigger, safety and housing are all metal. Side cover of housing appears plastic. I haven’t removed the stock for a more thorough examination.
Looking forward to pics of your 2023 362. If this stock is a one off, and I hope its not, I should box it up and buy another as a shooter.
It’s a good thing the 362 has a zamak trigger housing unlike the Disco’s except for the side plate.
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took a good look at your pics of trigger and safety... looks maybe like colored plastic not brass but hard to really judge..? What is your impression..?
Trigger, safety and housing are all metal. Side cover of housing appears plastic. I haven’t removed the stock for a more thorough examination.
Looking forward to pics of your 2023 362. If this stock is a one off, and I hope its not, I should box it up and buy another as a shooter.
well mine no matter what will be shot some... but zero mods and treated carefully... if a really good stock even more carefully.. ;) if a poor stock well..?
with yours I personally have a kid that just would want it kept in top condition... I have plenty other pumpers for us to shoot... my 2100/1322 hybrid 22" carbine is very similar in performance...
So might just want to get a syn stocked 362 and mod it ... ;) I have 3... serial #s in the 700's...
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took a good look at your pics of trigger and safety... looks maybe like colored plastic not brass but hard to really judge..? What is your impression..?
Trigger, safety and housing are all metal. Side cover of housing appears plastic. I haven’t removed the stock for a more thorough examination.
Looking forward to pics of your 2023 362. If this stock is a one off, and I hope its not, I should box it up and buy another as a shooter.
It’s a good thing the 362 has a zamak trigger housing unlike the Disco’s except for the side plate.
well yep and nope... My 3 Maximus it was very easy to do the 2 screw mod it is like they were made just for it... I do not want to do those on the 362 as the bosses are not there... Still the 362 trigger tunes nicely enough tho.. ;)
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TKO had some prototype triggers for the 362 I have 2 in test guns yet, very nice trigger, some testers had blades break, as it was 3D printed. Give him a shout if this could be a wanted item.
I will see if I can find a thread on it. Oh look there they are 8) https://www.tko22.com/Section8.html (https://www.tko22.com/Section8.html)
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have to re-post about the other two stocks seen so far... bottom stock would be acceptable, and the knot would not knock it out of select into economy on it's own... sort of a beauty mark if I like the grain flow of the stock... am referring to pic from post #50 of factory test mules...
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=206104.40 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=206104.40)
the top one depending on the rest of the stock appears to border on fancy grade... like Tim's stock just a bit more tho...
wait till Wednesday seems to long now.. ;)
will just have to look at pics of air rifles in "Circassian" walnut to help pass the time.. ;)
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Pretty sure I'd void the warranty before the first shot... I converted both my 362 to .177 and would do this one as well. I hope they have a better trigger. Would be a shame to waste that walnut stock and steel breech on a wobbly plastic trigger.
I know I dont pay enough attention….is there a plug and play trigger pack….all i got is a box of ball point pen springs…lol
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There are a couple trigger blades that will work. I'm sure they will have the same 362 trigger pack so a look back at those threads will tell the tale.
As soon as I got my synthetic 362 I added a steel breech a flow through bolt and a scope and a muzzle brake. My intention with the 100th anniversary edition is to leave it just as it came out of the box. This will be a first for me, let's see if I stick to it.
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A wood stock option is what I need to make a 362 purchase happen, but I'm not sure this is that gun.
It's a real shame Crosman doesn't just do a basic non fancy wood stock version for $199.
I totally agree, and made that same point here when the 362 was first released. They should've offered that from the beginning. Give us a wood stock, steel breech and serviceable trigger for under $200 and I'd be all in. We waited ages for Crosman to give a serious MSP and they put out a $99 plastic POS.
More than a shame, it's a real sham. Internal Crosman email reads like this: 'So, for all of those suckers who bought our plastic POS 362 and now want to upgrade it, we'll offer them a sub-$200 gun, give it some shiny parts and slap an anniversary plate on it. Hahaha. We'll just tell them it's commemorative, it's limited production, blah, blah, blah, and sell it for $400'.
For those of you who pre-ordered, send me a message. I swear I can get you a great deal on the Brooklyn Bridge.
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No, thank you.
I decline to cynic to that level........
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A wood stock option is what I need to make a 362 purchase happen, but I'm not sure this is that gun.
It's a real shame Crosman doesn't just do a basic non fancy wood stock version for $199.
I totally agree, and made that same point here when the 362 was first released. They should've offered that from the beginning. Give us a wood stock, steel breech and serviceable trigger for under $200 and I'd be all in. We waited ages for Crosman to give a serious MSP and they put out a $99 plastic POS.
More than a shame, it's a real sham. Internal Crosman email reads like this: 'So, for all of those suckers who bought our plastic POS 362 and now want to upgrade it, we'll offer them a sub-$200 gun, give it some shiny parts and slap an anniversary plate on it. Hahaha. We'll just tell them it's commemorative, it's limited production, blah, blah, blah, and sell it for $400'.
For those of you who pre-ordered, send me a message. I swear I can get you a great deal on the Brooklyn Bridge.
Gosh, tell us how you really feel.
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I like my 2 POS 362/367….and u get use to the smell….good luck
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Crosman legos including the 362 aren’t for everyone and the rabbit hole runs deep.
When the 362 1rst came out, I was buying bits and pieces for my 20 cal Cothran disco carbine. Next up was a LW barreled heavily modded 760, plus other rebuilds. When Crosman teased us with news of the 2023 Limited Edition 362, I knew I had to have one. And am very happy I was able to get mine.
I may tweak it a bit but cosmetically I don’t plan to change anything and will follow this thread WITH INTEREST !
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723PLE0246 is here.. 8) have not opened even outer shipping box yet but have to go for a while right now... back in a few...
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723PLE0246 is here.. 8) have not opened even outer shipping box yet but have to go for a while right now... back in a few...
👍
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723PLE0246 is here.. 8) have not opened even outer shipping box yet but have to go for a while right now... back in a few...
You’re taking too long >:( ;D
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Sorry but have life to deal with.. ;)
for now here are a few pics... am thinking they put effort into the brass trigger and it's installation... pretty high quality...no wobble on mine... it is better than the tuned stock plastic triggers on my other 362s and I got them working very well... If it breaks at over 2.5 lbs I would be very surprised...break is very clean and predictable...very useable field trigger... wood is very solidly in select grade... just a bit of wild grain on one side of butt... no mild mineral streaks for character... a close 2nd to Tim's #213... can tell stock and pump arm are from a single blank.. 8)
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velocity testing just a couple quick and dirty...
first time accidently pumped 10 times cause that is what my 362s have been ported and hogged out for... oops
10 pumps
Discovery 14.3 15.43 fpe at 697 fps
8 pumps
Discovery 14.3 671 fps at 14.3 fpe...
H&N 17.13 624 fps at 14.8 fpe
H&N 18.13 590 fps at 14 fpe
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That would look even better with some treatment, the lumber 👍
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I very much agree... looks to be just wiped on/off alcohol stain... I could do it just a bit better with some careful darkening/blending to reduce contrast at the wild grain area... then put some Tru Oil on top knocked back to satin...or your favorite stock finish.. ;)
if these are to be used much a protective finish should be used... the oils and grit from your hands will darken the wood in spots otherwise. ;)
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had to look to see If any other post anywhere... and well here is a vid of unboxing...I was able to patiently slide the sleeve off the box.. ;)
his stock by my standards is just about a 170-180$ mine is about 200$ stock... it can be very subjective tho... a skilled finisher could make his look pretty durn good also... and much more interesting/character than mine... just not to my taste... would need to see wrist area in person to judge it...
He feels it is a 300$ rifle hmm...
so yep here is a $160 Mrod stock very similar on one side any ways... https://www.pyramydair.com/product/benjamin-marauder-air-rifle-stock-wood?a=10069 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/benjamin-marauder-air-rifle-stock-wood?a=10069)
brass trigger is nice... comparable would be about 50-55 dollars shipped from alliance hobby...
the breech shipped by itself is about 50$... and that is not with the one off mill work...
base rifle discount for not needing syn stock $100... and already up to 360$...
Williams 5D-SH is about 50$ to your door...https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1005985561/ (https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1005985561/)
so no I do not agree with his price assessment... you just could not build it for that... Unless you get your stock at a real steal of a price.. ;)
he has a test vid up also will watch it next...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn1Kncv540A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn1Kncv540A)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8ZBbGfBLEg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8ZBbGfBLEg)
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https://hardairmagazine.com/news/more-details-on-the-limited-edition-crosman-362/
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My C2023 is supposed to be here today. This is a different kind of purchase for me. I shoot mostly vintage guns. Bought a new 392 a few years back, no longer have it. Nor do I have the Diana 34 bought new in the early 90s. I do have a couple dozen or more old Crosman guns and I shoot them all. Had to have one of these Century models, just because.
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You guys are tough on the wallet, I just ordered one with a 20% coupon and some C.C. points. Still very expensive but I think it’s worth it given the materials, hope it has good Q.C.
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Kirby, the fitment of your forearm to stock is as good as it gets! I know the gap in mine is partially due to the forearm bumper. Hopefully it closes up with use.
Your performance number were spot on with mine too.
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Looks good and thanks for sharing.
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Mine came in this morning. # 226. I like it. Looks good and feels good in hand. Got it zeroed for 20 yards with 4 pumps. Shoots very well, indeed. The trigger is much better than the one on my other 362. I like the fiber optic front sight better than I thought I would. I wasn't planning to but will probably try a scope at some point. To blasted hot out now, I plan to shoot it some more in the morning.
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Dang….the force is strong with this one..(like so many others)…but fortunately or unfortunately I just had to purchase a new central unit ….so most of my mad money is depleted for the. Moment….wishing u folks good shooting and happy Trails…good luck
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You guys are tough on the wallet, I just ordered one with a 20% coupon and some C.C. points. Still very expensive but I think it’s worth it given the materials, hope it has good Q.C.
add about 25$ to my price estimate... the front sight is a quality piece(even tho I do not like that it is fiber optic)... probably made by Williams...
similar piece... https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1005993324?pid=386247 (https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1005993324?pid=386247)
I always publish my first groups and the above vid shows his at 10 meters with RWS wadcutter at 400 fps or so...
Mine below is only 3 shots to see where it was hitting... sight from factory was set way low one big hash mark, and a touch right, one small hash mark from being centered...the dispersion is on me... I had probs seeing the front sight against the bright background... I never use fiber optic sights...uhg...
so anyways first three shots Benji 14.3g 25 yards 6 pumps... can't wait to get a hooded peep or non fiber hooded ramp front sight and install my twilight insert... oh, front rested...
here is a worthwhile way to spend some more $ on it.. ;) https://www.midwayusa.com/s?searchTerm=Williams+Aperture (https://www.midwayusa.com/s?searchTerm=Williams+Aperture)
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The black plastic piece at the end of the pump arm is fugly…wont stop me from purchasing if I choose…but do wish they had tried a little harder…good luck
you know that's the weird thing for me... in the pics it is a bit of a turn off for me... here in my hands or on the gun rack it does not bother me anywhere near as much.. ???
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The black plastic piece at the end of the pump arm is fugly…wont stop me from purchasing if I choose…but do wish they had tried a little harder…good luck
you know that's the weird thing for me... in the pics it is a bit of a turn off for me... here in my hands or on the gun rack it does not bother me anywhere near as much.. ???
certainly good to know …thanks for that…
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The black plastic piece at the end of the pump arm is fugly…wont stop me from purchasing if I choose…but do wish they had tried a little harder…good luck
you know that's the weird thing for me... in the pics it is a bit of a turn off for me... here in my hands or on the gun rack it does not bother me anywhere near as much.. ???
certainly good to know …thanks for that…
I noticed watching the second video that I didn't mind it either.
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Crosman legos including the 362 aren’t for everyone and the rabbit hole runs deep.
When the 362 1rst came out, I was buying bits and pieces for my 20 cal Cothran disco carbine. Next up was a LW barreled heavily modded 760, plus other rebuilds. When Crosman teased us with news of the 2023 Limited Edition 362, I knew I had to have one. And am very happy I was able to get mine.
I may tweak it a bit but cosmetically I don’t plan to change anything and will follow this thread WITH INTEREST !
very similar with me...Have been shooting air rifles since the mid to late 1960s... mostly Benji and Crosman pumpers...
my thing was making budget 13xx Hybrid Carbines using 66/2100/MK177 pump tubes... below is my MK1322... it take about 20 pumps to reach the psi of the 362... it has the pump swept volume of a 2100 but twice the valve volume of the 13xx and 362... but it is worth it... tops out at just over 24 accurate fpe with heavy pellets... sends the BBT 30g out nice and accurate also... but they are a bit to heavy and fpe drops to a bit below the 21+ fpe that the CPHP 14.3g get... never mind hose clamp barrel band... is very effective and does not hurt accuracy..
Have three Maximus... one of them is a home ported 50 fpe monster.. 8)
So yep a huge fan of the Lego platform and longtime fan of Crosman and Benji pumpers... was no way I was not getting this rifle ;)
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Kirby, the fitment of your forearm to stock is as good as it gets! I know the gap in mine is partially due to the forearm bumper. Hopefully it closes up with use.
Your performance number were spot on with mine too.
yep they are no slouch in the fpe dept... that long stroke makes for less pumping to get that power... Its magical.. ;)
I do like the fitment also...Still your stock is just right.. 8)
I did notice that your stock is just a touch proud of the top of the pump arm while mine is the opposite and the pump arm sits just proud of the top of the stock...
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Mine came in this morning. # 226. I like it. Looks good and feels good in hand. Got it zeroed for 20 yards with 4 pumps. Shoots very well, indeed. The trigger is much better than the one on my other 362. I like the fiber optic front sight better than I thought I would. I wasn't planning to but will probably try a scope at some point. To blasted hot out now, I plan to shoot it some more in the morning.
Pics or it dinnut happen...
you know we need our Model 2023 porn.. ;)
Me I love the individuality of wood no two stocks exactly the same...
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One thing is for sure. Crosman addressed some of the initial concerns from those of us who bought the original version. The barrel band was a big downfall to me. A metal set screw in plastic threads for a barrel with that long of a span to the end. Sooner or later, it is going to strip out. I wish they had taken that and added a metal threaded insert. For the price, that would have been such a small thing to address. I just ordered two, $3.80 each. I am going to see if I can add a small, shaped T-nut to the inside of one of them.
I doubt many (if any) of you folks who bought this will do a break down, but I would be curious to know if they got rid of all the razor sharp edges in all of the stamped slots and holes?
The stock is beautiful and I don't dislike the black barrel band, just feel they could have done a little better for an anniversary gun at that price. Still a very beautiful gun though. ;D
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Small imperfection, pump handle sanded a bit closer in on one side than the other. I know some folks would be real put off by this. Easy fix, I may do it. Or not.
Shot a few groups with the sight adjustments made last night. Seems to like the lighter ones, so far. I don't think I can shoot any better than the lower left group, scope or no scope. Beats me why these thumbnails are upside down.
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Perhaps the pump arm could be adjusted.
I’d check it 1st before sanding or sending it back.
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Hi guys,
I pre-ordered and received #203 direct from Crosman. This is my 1st 362 because I was not interested in the plastic version although I followed the forum posts about it and could see it is a good platform.
#203 is decent looking with nice contrast in the grain but without any fancy shimmer (I'll need to put some pics up maybe next week) and I like the ergonomics. Trigger is heavier than a classic 342 or 'Streak, but it's crisp and much better than a factory 392PA trigger. Accuracy is OK for plinking with CPHP, and initial testing shows more potential with RWS and JSB. I usually shoot 3 or 4 pumps at 20-25 yards and the pumping is a little stiffer and longer throw than the classic Benjis and 'dans, but overall, with the decent trigger, compact ergonomics, good-enough accuracy, walnut stock, and ignoring the high price and the fact that I prefer open sights over peeps for field guns, I'm pretty happy with it.
My only concerns are that I had to adjust the peep ALL the way right to zero, but it does zero.
My other concern is that I noticed oil accumulating by the transfer port between the compression tube and breech. The tissue test shows slight blow-by in that area, but velocity is still around 645 at 8 pumps with 14.3, so it's probably not losing too much energy.
I probably won't bother complaining to Crosman about these issues but maybe I should for $400. I'd hate for them to replace it with a plainer one, though.
Have fun!
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Perhaps the pump arm could be adjusted.
I’d check it 1st before sanding or sending it back.
Not a big deal for me. I could even it out but probably won't. Not sending back, I'm happy with it.
I too wish the barrel band was made of something else. I guess it works well enough, ever since the model 160, 180.
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Here's #203
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Popped on a spyglass, this is what I do.
One little cosmetic detail no one else seems concerned about, the contour of the butt pad. To my eye, it should follow the line of the stock at the toe. Minor, but there it is.
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Here's #203
Nice looking piece of wood.
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Here's #203
Nice looking piece of wood.
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what I can see so far your lumber looks pretty nice also...scope looks like a 70's Japanese Tasco 4x32... if so, fine wire..? love 'em for pumpers...
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Had a little time today to void the warranty on my 2023 362.
Made a pivot support out of a 13xx front sight. Not as pretty as Ron’s but it’s functional. Also replaced the roll pin with a Alchemy solid pivot pin. No change in power but what a difference it made in tightening up the pump mechanics! Thanks again to Ron for verifying the must do mod.
Also made the barrel spacer I like. U can see where I spliced 2 together to get the 13-5/8” length needed
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Had a little time today to void the warranty on my 2023 362.
Made a pivot support out of a 13xx front sight. Not as pretty as Ron’s but it’s functional. Also replaced the roll pin with a Alchemy solid pivot pin. No change in power but what a difference it made in tightening up the pump mechanics! Thanks again to Ron for verifying the must do mod.
Also made the barrel spacer I like. U can see where I spliced 2 together to get the 13-5/8” length needed
That'll work fine.
Doesn't have to win a beauty contest, just has to be functional.
Can't see it once it's in the gun anyway.
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Here's #203
Nice looking piece of wood.
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what I can see so far your lumber looks pretty nice also...scope looks like a 70's Japanese Tasco 4x32... if so, fine wire..? love 'em for pumpers...
I got one I bought in 1976…looks brand new….havent found a gun deserving of it..lol
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The one I have now was a gift from a neighbor some years ago... It is branded as Hurricane Horizon but is the same scope...
Below vid Shows a Hurricane Olympic which is pretty much same... I moved parallax to 35 yards from 50 yards on mine...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fB6RPaBm84 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fB6RPaBm84)
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Here's #203
Nice looking piece of wood.
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what I can see so far your lumber looks pretty nice also...scope looks like a 70's Japanese Tasco 4x32... if so, fine wire..? love 'em for pumpers...
I got one I bought in 1976…looks brand new….havent found a gun deserving of it..lol
Yea, it looks like a Tasco... branded "K-Mart All-Pro". 4x32 I picked up for a few bucks at a gun show. Duplex style reticle.
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Here's #203
Nice looking piece of wood.
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what I can see so far your lumber looks pretty nice also...scope looks like a 70's Japanese Tasco 4x32... if so, fine wire..? love 'em for pumpers...
I got one I bought in 1976…looks brand new….havent found a gun deserving of it..lol
Yea, it looks like a Tasco... branded "K-Mart All-Pro". 4x32 I picked up for a few bucks at a gun show. Duplex style reticle.
yep it is a late 70s Kmart branded Japanese Tasco... was with a friend in Reno when he bought one for his .22... think it was about, 1977-78...
gold lettering and have seen them with just All Pro and with Kmart All Pro branding...
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Here's #203
Looks great
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Had a little time today to void the warranty on my 2023 362.
Made a pivot support out of a 13xx front sight. Not as pretty as Ron’s but it’s functional. Also replaced the roll pin with a Alchemy solid pivot pin. No change in power but what a difference it made in tightening up the pump mechanics! Thanks again to Ron for verifying the must do mod.
Also made the barrel spacer I like. U can see where I spliced 2 together to get the 13-5/8” length needed
Creative and resourceful... great idea! 8)
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Had a little time today to void the warranty on my 2023 362.
Made a pivot support out of a 13xx front sight. Not as pretty as Ron’s but it’s functional. Also replaced the roll pin with a Alchemy solid pivot pin. No change in power but what a difference it made in tightening up the pump mechanics! Thanks again to Ron for verifying the must do mod.
Also made the barrel spacer I like. U can see where I spliced 2 together to get the 13-5/8” length needed
Creative and resourceful... great idea! 8)
Another way of removing that pump arm wobble is to install a washer between the 2 halves of the pump arm.
Dunno if this will work on the 362 though, but it’s a mod by Mudduck in the CAPOF.
Works really well like Charle’s Melon’s set.
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have a fondness for the fine wire 4X32... so mounted it on the 2023... It likes JSB 18g, H&N 18g, CPHP 14.3 also... it's favorite by just a bit is the 15.8g JSB...
Hatsan pellets nope, Superdomes catch a bit while loading but still manage bout an inch at 30 yards... feel they might improve if I do some leade work...
more to test.. ;)
have to say am really likening this rifle... of course will do testing to see just how far I can go accurately with the JSBs...
Daughter nicknamed him Purdey when I told her about the 1920's .246 Purdey(sent 100g .253 rounds)...
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Those groups at 35 yards look great Kirby! ;D
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I've found the lighter JSB pellets, 13.43 and 14.35, shoot well with 3-5 pumps, while the heavier 15.89 and 18.1 need more pumps to bring velocity up for best accuracy. In both of my 362s. Funny, I have other guns that shoot them well at all velocities.
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Got mine, serial number 260. Just ordered it about a week ago... maybe they’ve got a lot leftover still? Used the 20% off so did ok, seems real nice checking it on my lunch break but will have to try it out later. I was surprised they managed to keep the pistol grip so thin on the wood stock like the original.
Edit- the website let’s me add 200 362s to my cart but I think that’s the order limit not the inventory
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Obligatory photo
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Thanks for the photo!
I'm not oredering one (don't shoot .22 anymore), but am enjoying following. The turkish walnut stock on my akela is awesome and i like seeing these pics of the 362 wood stock.
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Interesting that Crosman milled the side of the steel breech flat to better accept a Williams sight. Maybe they should do this to all of them? I really like how this gun feels pumping it.
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Boy, that peep pic has me wishing they made one in .177!
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Boy, that peep pic has me wishing they made one in .177!
I converted both of my c362 guns to .177. Just takes a barrel and a bolt.
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Boy, that peep pic has me wishing they made one in .177!
I converted both of my c362 guns to .177. Just takes a barrel and a bolt.
I have a .177 remington (it's a painted crosman legacy). Would that barrel work?
Reluctant to add to the already high price tag of the 362 woodie by making it .177.
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Nope, different monsters.. needs to be a Crosman 'lego' barrel.
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Short day at work today and was curious if my barrel spacer might help accuracy at max power, 8 pumps. Also just received a supply of 15.89 JSBs and a 5.52 sizer and wanted to try them too.
I lost 10fps after sizing the CP pellets, so 660fps with 8 pumps. Shot the 2 targets with CP pellets alternating 1 straight from the tin followed by a pellet run through the die. 5 each. The unsized target is a bit better but sizing the pellets surprised me! Until I open the tin of JSBs. The JSB 15.89s are moving 640fps and the obvious choice going forward.
Kirby’s post on the 31rst confirms the 15.89 JSBs also.
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Nope, different monsters.. needs to be a Crosman 'lego' barrel.
Thanks, Bill! These guns sure seem like legos with the mix and matchability of parts.
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Thanks all for the photos and information. That is interesting that they milled the side of the breech flat thanks for sharing.
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Got mine earlier in the week, cleaned the barrel (Hoppe's, alcohol, dry, oil, dry), oiled pump, pump arm pivots, rear piston insert, bolt o-ring --- pellgun oil where recommend. Find bolt gets lacerated from capture of steel breach, oiled with teflon super lube.
Pump arm is slightly off (happen in shipping? ), stock Phillips screws slightly loose. Couldn't salvage box sleeve, too much glue. It was well packed.
Stock looks like it had promise but maybe the B team was up to bat. Unfinished grain, what looks like polish spots thad didn't get rubbed out, and I'm just not expert enough to guess on what it would look like in the right hands with some extra attention. Pics will follow (they're on my phone, this is a tablet). Could be this being #533, QC is falling off.
Yesterday:
Pumps. FPS. FPE
2. 382. 4.6
3. 459. 6.7
4. 526. 8.8
5. 571. 10.4
8. 659. 13.8
4. 524.
Today just CPUM five rounds to see what it can do.
Couple observations, but first, I got it with a discount code, thank you @BerkshireHunter, 20% off. Second, I don't know why, but I thought the Williams sight would also be windage adjustable (knob or screw). Third is although I REALLY wanted to love this rifle, I started with second thoughts and buyer's remorse before it even arrived.
So, test fired at 11 yards, next post pics of stock and target. Heartbeat was likely responsible for top 2 rounds, just the way I was sitting. Caldwell bag. Oh, forgot ... nice crisp trigger pull, no creep, measured from high 3's to 4# even.
I'm hoping to get comments on the stock!
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Pics...
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The wood looks just fine 👍
I’d treat it with some oil though.
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Well.
Pushed target back to 25 yards, 1st round about where top ones hit, 2nd 4" lower, don't shoot these well?
Nope.
No longer holding air. Was 8 pumps.
Range already set up, wth, try Beeman 0035 since wind is dying down. Low, lower, pellet 3 still in breach. Seal is history.
OK, D34. Ten shots about 1.5" (irons).
This is the part where I expect someone to say hey, wake up, you're having a nightmare!
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Well.
Pushed target back to 25 yards, 1st round about where top ones hit, 2nd 4" lower, don't shoot these well?
Nope.
No longer holding air. Was 8 pumps.
Range already set up, wth, try Beeman 0035 since wind is dying down. Low, lower, pellet 3 still in breach. Seal is history.
OK, D34. Ten shots about 1.5" (irons).
This is the part where I expect someone to say hey, wake up, you're having a nightmare!
It’s not holding air? In IT they say “did you try restarting or clearing the cache?” With Crosmans I say “did you put some Pellgun or ND 30W oil on the pump cup?” These things love a bit of oil to make a seal in the compression tube.
It definitely shouldn’t have a problem this early. The Williams sight has two small screws to loosen on top then you can shift windage. (Yes, a little annoying)
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It’s not holding air? In IT they say “did you try restarting or clearing the cache?” With Crosmans I say “did you put some Pellgun or ND 30W oil on the pump cup?” These things love a bit of oil to make a seal in the compression tube.
It definitely shouldn’t have a problem this early. The Williams sight has two small screws to loosen on top then you can shift windage. (Yes, a little annoying)
Did before doing the chrono shots, and again when it quit building pressure.
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Packed it up for return, but thought to give it another chance. By two pumps I could tell it was back to building pressure.
Total before it went south on me was only 13 cycles, various # of pumps. Most oil left the pump and valve on the way to the chamber from the looks of the "wet" bolt area.
I've heard they were oil hogs, but 13 shots is a pita. Might put it up 4 sale...
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Three last shots, 25 yards, no wind. Two close together are 1& 2. I don't think #3 was me, but to be fair I suppose it's possible the pellet skirt was damaged(?).
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I would be curious to see what a 10 shot group at 25 yards looks like. If this is the same barrel they used on the original 362, there were good ones and there were bad ones. Mine was a very bad one.
If you think there are pressure building issues, a 10 shot group might help to see if it was just because it needed to be worked in a little, or something from a defect. Did you call Crosman and talk to them about it? This might be something they are aware of and have heard before.
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I hate to read about trouble with the barrels on either guns…I guess like some I got lucky….both my 362’s shot well at 30 yards…i made one a .177 (disco barrel) I put its barrel(22) on a lego 2240…it to is accurate at 30 yards….good luck
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Robert/Phil,
More testing just wasn't in the cards --- Matt at Crosman Customer Service is going to have it looked at, but I've decided not to keep it. If they report findings I'll post them...