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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Air Gun Gate => Topic started by: mwgm2020 on November 08, 2022, 10:22:05 PM
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Anyone know what’s happened to the DonnyFL website? Page says look on their social media to find out but don’t see anything. https://donnyfl.com/password (https://donnyfl.com/password)
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Normal system down maybe they’re doing an update or something
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In the OTHER forum, it's said that he was visited by a particular agency of the government.
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In the OTHER forum, it's said that he was visited by a particular agency of the government.
Oh oh
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In the OTHER forum, it's said that he was visited by a particular agency of the government.
I was afraid it might be something like that. :(
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While the AGN crew makes many assumptions, some talking are saying that the 3 letter feds did indeed make inquire ... And management has asked for calm letting Donny speak for himself after asking for a bit of time to sort out what ever issues were occurring.
So for now NO ONE KNOWS but those who are directly involved give or take :-X
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Bummer!
Hope it all works out... Guess time will tell
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Facebook page suggested he was moving…hope he isn’t being moved…..hope he wasnt singled out…..plenty of similar items all over the net….especially for the other kind of sport…..wish him luck
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Yes wishing him well.
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Hope all goes well whatever it is.
Just Glad the Emperor from my Evanix .30 fits the FX soon to be .30!
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So much for Silence being Golden! ;D Hopefully, he is just moving and the website is being revamped. Wishing Donny the best!
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Are you kidding? This IS the Internet. There is no Silence!
;D
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Donny is a GREAT guy...only wish him the BEST!
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Website is back up, no mods listed, just adapters.
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It's sad to see that airgun industry being attacked so much.
As a seller it's next to impossible to advertise on any platforms (Insta, YT, FB, Twitter, etc.) and we even got taken down from eBay (they've held our funds for months). I hope DonnyFl wins this fight.
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It's sad to see that airgun industry being attacked so much.
As a seller it's next to impossible to advertise on any platforms (Insta, YT, FB, Twitter, etc.) and we even got taken down from eBay (they've held our funds for months). I hope DonnyFl wins this fight.
I keep hearing whispers from my state (NY) regarding high powered airguns, unfortunately.
Got friends in somewhat high places...
Ain't what it used to be, folks.
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Lock out clock is ticking gentleman….lol
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Lock out clock is ticking gentleman….lol
Lock out clock for what?
Maybe I'm missing something, but I sure hope we airgunners don't get locked out of a great hobby. :(
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Lock out clock is ticking gentleman….lol
Lock out clock for what?
Maybe I'm missing something, but I sure hope we airgunners don't get locked out of a great hobby. :(
For this thread…lol….just wait for it…..
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Site is working, supressors have been removed.
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Tick tock tick tock. ;D
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Tick tock tick tock. ;D
So far... So good.
Let's just keep this non-political and everything will be fine. ;)
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I reached out to Donny and the reply I got was they can not ship them. Take it for what it's worth.
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Saw this as ATF regulations page . (27 CFR 479.11)
Numerous paintball and airgun silencers tested by ATF's Firearms Technology Branch have been determined to be firearm silencers by nature of their design and function. Because silencers are NFA weapons, an individual wishing to manufacture or transfer such a silencer must receive prior approval from ATF and pay the required tax.
Maybe this has some bearing on what's going on.
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Saw this as ATF regulations page . (27 CFR 479.11)
Numerous paintball and airgun silencers tested by ATF's Firearms Technology Branch have been determined to be firearm silencers by nature of their design and function. Because silencers are NFA weapons, an individual wishing to manufacture or transfer such a silencer must receive prior approval from ATF and pay the required tax.
Maybe this has some bearing on what's going on.
yea, it was only a matter of time,, i get the impression this will not be temporary .
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The question is if other AG LDC brands have stopped selling too; or only DFL?
AOA still sells brands other than DFL, while selling DFL couplers: https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/airgun-silencers/ (https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/airgun-silencers/)
AOU still sells other brands, with a few models of DFL still available:
https://utahairguns.com/moderators/ (https://utahairguns.com/moderators/)
https://utahairguns.com/donnyfl-shogun-moderator/ (https://utahairguns.com/donnyfl-shogun-moderator/)
That makes it seem as if DFL company may be the locus of the focus.
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I thought this case decided the issue once and for all.......
caselaw.findlaw.com/us-1st-circuit/1527670.html
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I thought this case decided the issue once and for all.......
caselaw.findlaw.com/us-1st-circuit/1527670.html
theres a few differences here. One is manufacturing and distribution, the above case involved neither. The other is intent, while they couldnt prove it in the above case, it doesnt mean they wont prove it in new cases. Its such a grey area especially when some AG's are sold with detatchable ldcs.
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I find it ironic that he can still sell adapters. It’s probably what got him in trouble in the first place.
His (and many others) LDC’s are easily adapted to any threaded barrel, be It Airgun or Power burner.
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My mind wants to tie this to the recent "silence" (no pun intended) from the Airgun Geeks and their related endeavors unexpectedly shutting down..
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My mind wants to tie this to the recent "silence" (no pun intended) from the Airgun Geeks and their related endeavors unexpectedly shutting down..
Air Gun Geeks posted a new podcast yesterday. https://www.buzzsprout.com/1583065 (https://www.buzzsprout.com/1583065)
Patrick's wife has had some serious health issues and he has been taking care of her and his family.
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Already getting hard to find, this is why I travel to traditional "gun shows" and sell air guns, lots of "I had no idea!". Trying to inform and further the air gun sport. Now I have to tell them the Gov is starting to really take notice of the sport, next will be the elimination or regulation of full auto air guns...get yours now!
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Already getting hard to find, this is why I travel to traditional "gun shows" and sell air guns, lots of "I had no idea!". Trying to inform and further the air gun sport. Now I have to tell them the Gov is starting to really take notice of the sport, next will be the elimination or regulation of full auto air guns...get yours now!
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The question is if other AG LDC brands have stopped selling too; or only DFL?
AOA still sells brands other than DFL, while selling DFL couplers: https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/airgun-silencers/ (https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/airgun-silencers/)
AOU still sells other brands, with a few models of DFL still available:
https://utahairguns.com/moderators/ (https://utahairguns.com/moderators/)
https://utahairguns.com/donnyfl-shogun-moderator/ (https://utahairguns.com/donnyfl-shogun-moderator/)
That makes it seem as if DFL company may be the locus of the focus.
We still sell them too
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I was never a big fan of the can style……but Im a BIG FAN of folks making a honest living,,,good luck
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As far as airguns are concerned I have been worried for some time now when those in power start looking at what an airgun is capable of. Bad thing is you have all of these youtube channels and the like that have many folks showing the power and range of modern airguns. This would raise red flags for anti-gunners. *(&^ they think that a muzzle loader could be used as a item for a mass shooting. Now when it comes to DonnyFL, and this is just speculation. His moderators are all made of medal. Including the internals other then the felt wrapping. If you look at most of the other brands it would seem that the internals are just plastic of sorts. Ideally they would break if used once with a firearm. Honestly im thinking that someone fit and used one on a firearm and got caught.