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Title: Daisy 853 trigger fix
Post by: Oldgringo on August 14, 2022, 05:35:34 PM
Where can I find instructions/video of the 853 trigger fix.  I've had the kit forever.  It's time to employ it, I ain't gittin' any younger as the past couple days in the hospital signaled

P&TU
Title: Re: Daisy 853 trigger fix
Post by: dv8eod on August 15, 2022, 01:02:45 PM
www.pilkguns.com (http://www.pilkguns.com) (?) has them on their site. Not real sure of the address, but it's pilkington.
Title: Re: Daisy 853 trigger fix
Post by: rowiac on August 16, 2022, 03:36:30 AM
These are the instructions from CMP:

https://thecmp.org/wp-content/uploads/DaisySporterTriggerMod.pdf

Sorry to hear about your hospital stay.
Title: Re: Daisy 853 trigger fix
Post by: ac12 on August 20, 2022, 12:34:35 AM
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=39648.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=39648.0)
Title: Re: Daisy 853 trigger fix
Post by: Earl on August 20, 2022, 12:55:36 PM
My 2 CMP Daisy 853s are shooting so accurate that I am afraid to change anything on them.
Title: Re: Daisy 853 trigger fix
Post by: mr007s on August 20, 2022, 01:22:01 PM
I got lucky, mine breaks right at 2 pounds
Title: Re: Daisy 853 trigger fix
Post by: Oldgringo on August 20, 2022, 07:44:25 PM
I took my 853 MC out this afternoon, for the first time in forever, and shot a few AA 7.33's at a measured 10 M and was quite pleased with the groups.  OTOH, it almost required more muscles than I have remaining to cock it.  DANG!

I think I have had the complete Champions Choice 880 upgrade springs and parts kit for over several years.  This package comes with an instructional CD.  There was a real gunsmith down the road and I'll visit with him Monday.
Title: Re: Daisy 853 trigger fix
Post by: Earl on August 20, 2022, 09:18:07 PM
I took my 853 MC out this afternoon, for the first time in forever, and shot a few AA 7.33's at a measured 10 M and was quite pleased with the groups.  OTOH, it almost required more muscles than I have remaining to cock it.  DANG!

There should be a way to reduce the closing pressure when cocking.
Someone please tell us old men how to do that.
Title: Re: Daisy 853 trigger fix
Post by: Oldgringo on August 21, 2022, 12:05:28 PM
Well, I shot the 853 a bit this morning and it was as accurate and it required as much muscle today as it did yesterday.  So, I went in and got my scoped HW30S. What a pleasure she is.
Title: Re: Daisy 853 trigger fix
Post by: ac12 on August 21, 2022, 03:15:58 PM
I have to go try it with mine, but I would try to make use of your body weight to assist in the charging.
Maybe have a solid padded surface to support the rifle, then push down against that. 
It will take a bit of experimenting to figure it out.
Title: Re: Daisy 853 trigger fix
Post by: mafatone on August 23, 2022, 09:21:39 PM
Hey Greg, is that the 777 trigger group I told you to get a long time ago?
Title: Re: Daisy 853 trigger fix
Post by: Oldgringo on August 26, 2022, 01:01:27 PM
Hey Greg, is that the 777 trigger group I told you to get a long time ago?

I dunno.  I have the 853 Repair Kit from Champions Choice and what appears to be the trigger fix kit (888) from Daisy.

What I don't have yet is somebody to do the deed.
Title: Re: Daisy 853 trigger fix
Post by: mafatone on September 04, 2022, 03:47:45 PM
Right 888! It's been so long that I forgot the model number. What do you need to have done?
Title: Re: Daisy 853 trigger fix
Post by: mafatone on September 05, 2022, 08:39:33 PM
Right 888! It's been so long that I forgot the model number. What do you need to have done?
  Did you order the trigger guard housing (I forgot what it's called) from Daisy? It has the drilled & tapped screw hole for the adustable trigger. That's the mod you really want. This rifle is easy to work on. The trigger Mech. has only a few moving pieces. I remember the trigger has 3 springs in it. I omitted 2 leaving one. That, in combination with the adjustable trigger, will give you a trigger that if you look at it hard enough, it will go off. LOL  You'll never put it down. You can shoot flies @ 10 yds with it. I do it constantly. You can too.
Title: Re: Daisy 853 trigger fix
Post by: Oldgringo on September 27, 2022, 06:14:33 PM
Well, I got my 853 MC back from a, more or less, local gunsmith today. He installed the 888 kit as much as he could.  The trigger is better but it's still not a 1.5 lb Rekord.  That's okay, she'll make 10M one-holers and hit my 25 yard spinner spoons, both with CPHP's.  As hard as she is to cock and load, she'll not get that much patio time.
Title: Re: Daisy 853 trigger fix
Post by: ac12 on September 27, 2022, 09:03:17 PM
Greg,
The x53 trigger is NOT a sophisticated target trigger.
It is a simple single stage trigger.

You won't get a "crisp" "breaking glass rod" release . . . safely. 
The x53 triggers will only do a "rolling" release.  Where you have trigger movement, before it releases.
Once you get used to a rolling trigger, it is just fine.
I grew up on crisp triggers, but all my target air guns have rolling triggers, and I like them.

Several junior club advisors recommend not going below 2 pounds, for safety.

When I did my trigger, the primary improvement I wanted was to smoothen the rough sticky pull, so the trigger pull would not "hang up" on rough spots on the sear, during the pull.  Once the sear and hammer were smoothened, I did not notice the trigger weight, and just left it alone.
Title: Re: Daisy 853 trigger fix
Post by: Struckat on September 27, 2022, 09:45:18 PM
I bought a kit off fleabay, just haven’t  gotten around to installing it. The trigger on my 753 has two predictable creeps and stops. Just after the second stop, it breaks.

Till I put that kit in it, my HW30 will remain my 10m gun.
Title: Re: Daisy 853 trigger fix
Post by: ac12 on September 28, 2022, 10:50:12 PM
I bought a kit off fleabay, just haven’t  gotten around to installing it. The trigger on my 753 has two predictable creeps and stops. Just after the second stop, it breaks.


Unfortunately, Daisy has poor manufacturing process on the sear and hammer.
They should have a smoothening step, to deburr the sear/hammer surfaces. 
They don't have to polish it, just deburr it.
Title: Re: Daisy 853 trigger fix
Post by: Oldgringo on October 02, 2022, 11:38:35 PM
I bought a kit off fleabay, just haven’t  gotten around to installing it. The trigger on my 753 has two predictable creeps and stops. Just after the second stop, it breaks.


Unfortunately, Daisy has poor manufacturing process on the sear and hammer.
They should have a smoothening step, to deburr the sear/hammer surfaces. 
They don't have to polish it, just deburr it.

I can live with the trigger but, she takes a lot more effort to cock than I'm willing to put forth for extended periods.  I don't think this 853 from the CMP was ever put into service?  There is not a mark nor a blemish anywhere and, she is tight!
Title: Re: Daisy 853 trigger fix
Post by: ac12 on October 05, 2022, 03:40:28 PM
I bought a kit off fleabay, just haven’t  gotten around to installing it. The trigger on my 753 has two predictable creeps and stops. Just after the second stop, it breaks.


Unfortunately, Daisy has poor manufacturing process on the sear and hammer.
They should have a smoothening step, to deburr the sear/hammer surfaces. 
They don't have to polish it, just deburr it.

I can live with the trigger but, she takes a lot more effort to cock than I'm willing to put forth for extended periods.  I don't think this 853 from the CMP was ever put into service?  There is not a mark nor a blemish anywhere and, she is tight!

I have tendonitis.
While I can charge a SSP for a few or even a dozen shots, I can't do it for 60+, for a match.
That is why I gave in to the tank of gas, and eventually switched to co2 and CA/PCP.