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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => European/Asian Air Gun Gates => Spanish AirGun Gate => Topic started by: Bad News Beeman on June 04, 2022, 03:45:48 PM
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Recently came across this Mendoza that was too unique to pass up. Its definitely an oddball variant that I've never seen before. The straight stock is interesting and fairly rare in the air gun world, I've only ever known Beeman C1's to have such stocks. Its got the typical Mendoza muzzle brake but a super long sight hood. No double trigger on it. The sling appears from the factory because it is grommeted together, only way to remove would be to cut. .22 caliber. No markings on it except for the manufacturer's stamp in Spanish.
Any clues what model this weirdo might be?
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Interesting... And for mexican youd think youd see more of them here.. air gun depot had a old page on them from 2011
http://www.fullaire.com.ar/todos-los-productos/todo-armas-nuevas/mendoza/rifle-mendoza-rm-100-4-5-5-5 (http://www.fullaire.com.ar/todos-los-productos/todo-armas-nuevas/mendoza/rifle-mendoza-rm-100-4-5-5-5)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fpPfDSg5qu0 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fpPfDSg5qu0)
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The single blade trigger and the blue spacer between the stock and recoil pad say made for Crosman.
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Pyramyd sold an Air Venturi made by Mendoza with a straight carbine stock like that. But it had the dual trigger and no engraving on the stock. I have three or for larger Mendozas came with sling mounts and that cheap sling. I cut them off and replaced with AK/SKS slings.
The still photo at the first of the video has a different front sight or the hood removed than the gun in the actual video.
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The single blade trigger and the blue spacer between the stock and recoil pad say made for Crosman.
That butt spacer is good info on that i found mendosa crosmams and that looks to hold true.. just not a crosman with that stright stock , just more pistol grip model stocks.
Heres another , just mendoza rm 100 thats even closer to your gun in appearance
http://springsguns.blogspot.com/2011/07/mendoza-rm-100-55-mm.html?m=1 (http://springsguns.blogspot.com/2011/07/mendoza-rm-100-55-mm.html?m=1)
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The gun in the video appears to have a silver trigger and the distance from the front stock screws to the front end of the stock seems shorter. It doesn't cover the barrel block like the other gun.
The Air Venturi Mendoza was a Bronco.
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Ya, the one in the last link i gave looks right on , BUT... Dont have the double color banding at the butt pad. ?
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The gun in the video wasn't made for Crosman. It also has that oval plate on the side above the trigger.
To see the Pyramyd Air Mendoza Air Venturi Bronco google just like this: pyramyd air air venturi bronco
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Click on the blue lettering field to bring up the pictures , has the correct butt plate banding,. But... Still not 100% same as his above.
https://www.essai-armes.fr/2002/01/25/carabines-mendoza-calibre-45-mm-diabolo/ (https://www.essai-armes.fr/2002/01/25/carabines-mendoza-calibre-45-mm-diabolo/)
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Dan, does you little Mendoza have the oil hole in the receiver?
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The crosman ones that i can read the receiver has stamped made for crosman by mendoza in the same spot of his stamping..
I looked at a bunch but not a one exactly as yours .
Maybe that rare one of a kind first run limited early run gun?
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Click on the blue lettering field to bring up the pictures , has the correct butt plate banding,. But... Still not 100% same as his above.
https://www.essai-armes.fr/2002/01/25/carabines-mendoza-calibre-45-mm-diabolo/ (https://www.essai-armes.fr/2002/01/25/carabines-mendoza-calibre-45-mm-diabolo/)
Very cool link, Deeco! I'd love to have that thumbhole even if I shoot left hand. I have only seen that type front sight on Crosman/Mendozas. The stocks they make for Crosman seem blockier.
If you look up Mendoza parts on Pyramyd's site you'll see a piston for a RM10 or 200 and see the groove behind the piston seal for a felt oiler. Also the painted red patch that shows thru the oil hole when the gun is cocked. My two Croman/Mendozas, a RM577 and 377 have the oil hole. My Tech Force/Mendoza M12 doesn't and if memory serves neither did my TF M8 but it did have the dual triggers. The M12 has a single blade trigger.
Does anyone know if the Mendoza, made for Pyramyd Air, Tech Force's and Air Venturi's pistons had the groove for the felt oiler. I've never had one apart except a Mendoza RM2003 dual cal and it did have the oiler and dual triggers.
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That Tech Force's i need to look at harder ..
Maybe stumble in to somthing from theres .. they came up but nothing close to his fully.
Ya that last link i gave got to say nice wood on them..
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Tech Force is an old Chinese brand name. I think Pyramyd bought the name as well as Air Venturi and Tom Gaylord, Pyramyd's resident expert, spec.'ed the guns out and Mendoza made them.
Seems they sold another full size break barrel under the Air Venturi brand name from Mendoza. I think it was call called Avenger not to be confused with the Avenger PCP they market now.
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Maybe send an email to Mendoza with your pictures and ask them?
atencion.clientes@mendozasport.com
Kinda looks like a Made by Mendoza Crosman RM177, but that over long corn tunnel on the front throws it off.
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Steve, that RM177 with the blue spacer and that particular hooded front sight is all Crosman to me. Looks like it has sling mounts also.
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Maybe , but its not stamped as this is
Picture 2 another example on another model
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Maybe send an email to Mendoza with your pictures and ask them?
atencion.clientes@mendozasport.com
Kinda looks like a Made by Mendoza Crosman RM177, but that over long corn tunnel on the front throws it off.
Steve, that looks about as close as can be. With exception of a couple of Crosman features like the peep sight and distinct sight hood.
Adding to backyard, I picked this up from an auction house in Arizona. So its possible this rifle walked across the border at some point. So maybe it's a uniquely Mexican model that made its way to the states?
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Illegal border crossing? Thats a myth...lol
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Maybe , but its not stamped as this is
Picture 2 another example on another model
First guns they made for Crosman may well not be stamped that way and something they asked to have done
in later models.
Maybe send an email to Mendoza with your pictures and ask them?
atencion.clientes@mendozasport.com
Kinda looks like a Made by Mendoza Crosman RM177, but that over long corn tunnel on the front throws it off.
Steve, that looks about as close as can be. With exception of a couple of Crosman features like the peep sight and distinct sight hood.
Adding to backyard, I picked this up from an auction house in Arizona. So its possible this rifle walked across the border at some point. So maybe it's a uniquely Mexican model that made its way to the states?
Blue Book, while I wish otherwise, didn't have pictures of all the different Crosman RM model rifles but that one definitely looked close. Not a sling kinda guy myself and
at least on the Mendoza Blackhawk I have, they have an easily removable cocking arm pin so that sling holder can be removed if wanted.
Seen mention on AGW forum that Mendoza actually made excellent peep sights until the machinery to make them broke and was never repaired.
When Rocker1 was selling the pair he had, I asked for the one with the factory peep on it. Only peep sight I own but does seem to be very well made.
I did find this under Mendoza in the book though: Mendoza Model 5, although not much info on it and that stubby muzzle break is missing.
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You can't always tell by markings. Just looking at my Mendoza made for Pyramyd Tech Force M12. It has the typical swoop down Mendoza butt stock, two lever safety switch, small one screw trigger guard. It has a single blade trigger, a tan colored recoil pad with the Mendoza little rubber circles on the back of the pad. Came without open sights and a steel barrel/muzzle weight. Only difference in it and the TF M8 beside being smaller is the M8 had a dual trigger. Both were pretty guns. Sold or traded the M8 and the M12 is a little beat up now. Same scope's been on it for years. A Tech Force 2-7x32AO with dupex reticle. Can't buy that scope now. I bet I bought a dozen of them for like $25 and an identical one labeled Winchester.
But little in marking. On the right side of the receiver is the typical warning---not a toy---fatal---read manual. On the left side middle of the barrel is stamped' Cal. 4.5/.177. And that's it, not even a serial number. Serial number might be under the stock. I'll check later.
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Well, that was interesting. Took the stock off the Mendoza made Tech Force M12. The only other engraving or stamping was some numbers on the bottom of the barrel block under the cocking linkage:
2
3184
8 12
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Mendoza is not one for markings, aside from what's stamped on the compression tube. Otherwise, its just assembly digits punches willy-nilly
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The little machine gun stamped in the metal next to the name is a light machine gun with bi=pod and top feed magazine Mendoza got famous for back in the day. They still build shot guns and they make a type of sub machine gun the magazine goes thru the pistol grip Uzi or MAC 11 like.