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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Bargain Gate => Topic started by: Earl on May 10, 2022, 12:41:53 PM
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It looks like they copied the Crosman Vigilante/357.
https://www.bugasalt.com/products/shred-er-starter-kit (https://www.bugasalt.com/products/shred-er-starter-kit)
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Oh H3LL YEAH !!!
Ammo is a bit pricey. I'm sure someone will come up with a way to reload the mags.
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That's hilarious and awesome. My cousin loves his non co2 bugasalt.
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I've read in a couple of places that it's manufactured by Crosman.
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Cool! Been thinking about adapting an old pressure washer wand as a barrel for my pneumatic sand blasting gun. It’s got a sand hopper on top and depending on air pressure and granulation you can get two or three minutes of continuous spray. If I could get a lethal range of ten-fifteen feet I could annihilate the carpenter bees!
Exterminate all the brutes! ;D
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Couldn't you just pack salt into a regular Crosman Co2 revolver?
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Oh H3LL YEAH !!!
Ammo is a bit pricey. I'm sure someone will come up with a way to reload the mags.
The mags would be easy to reload if they would sell the little clear circles that hold the salt in place.
I emailed Bug-A-Salt and asked them if they would sell the little circles.
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Really step it up and use a 38C.
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Bad Minton rackets are very rewarding.... ;D
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Why buy such a single use device? I just buy the cartridges and use them in my Crossman Vigilante. BB's, Pellets, Salt it will shoot them all.
https://www.bugasalt.com/products/shred-er-salt-cartridges (https://www.bugasalt.com/products/shred-er-salt-cartridges)
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Why buy such a single use device? I just buy the cartridges and use them in my Crossman Vigilante. BB's, Pellets, Salt it will shoot them all.
https://www.bugasalt.com/products/shred-er-salt-cartridges (https://www.bugasalt.com/products/shred-er-salt-cartridges)
Really? I've got an old Viji around here someplace.. I'll have to try it out.
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I have not tried it yet but there are several reloading videos out there. Waterbugs and carpenter bees are particularly fun to shoot.
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Suddenly the Triple Threat 8" barrel has me interested...
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Bug-A-Salt is working to get a method of reloading the mags.
They understand that 10 cents per shot is too expensive for a lot of people.
The Bug-A-Salt 2.5 and 3.0 are excellent for killing flies, misquotes, ants, gnats, etc.
The carpenter bees and wasps and hornets are just too tough for the 2.5 and 3.0 to kill.
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I have not tried it yet but there are several reloading videos out there. Waterbugs and carpenter bees are particularly fun to shoot.
Please post the links to the best reloading videos.
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Comparing bug a salt to vigilante
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3VUmqMZ2t4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3VUmqMZ2t4)
You may have trouble with syncing the cartridges if you do not follow these directions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etl5EOyZetA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etl5EOyZetA)
Reloading 1 of 4 methods by the same guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm3p2AGu0FY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm3p2AGu0FY)
Hope this helps.
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Using Tape to reload:
Reloading Bug-A-Salt’s SHRED-ER cartridge 2.0
and another option using a standard hole punch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlZjC4QU5l8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlZjC4QU5l8)
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No paper method using a die made from pellets and a spare cartridge:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAye07BBtrI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAye07BBtrI)
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Thank you caf2461 !
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Did something like this for my gamo shadow express. Wasps were not happy 8)
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Amazon has them for sale for the same price but Amazon won't ship to my location >:( ::)
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Amazon has them for sale for the same price but Amazon won't ship to my location >:( ::)
Please buy from Bug-A-Salt, their warranty and products are great.
They are working on a way to reload the mags.
I suggested selling stick-on circles to hold the salt in place.
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Triple threat arrived, some clear film tape, a little coarse kosher salt and swap in the 8" barrel. Took 3 minutes.
Peppers alum foil for a 4" diameter dense pattern at 3 feet.
... in search of a victim...
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If this Vigilante is basically the old Crosman 357, which I think it is, I'd recommend taking the barrel tube out and replacing it with something else. Salt can't be good for it. I used some brake/transmission line back in the day, and if my brain isn't misfiring, I think even a bic biro ball point pen tube fit just right. I was modifying to be .25 paintball caliber, but a rocksalt shotgun shouldn't care if the load is going into a slightly bigger tube.
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... Salt can't be good for it. ...
But it is Kosher salt... heh.
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If this Vigilante is basically the old Crosman 357, which I think it is, I'd recommend taking the barrel tube out and replacing it with something else. Salt can't be good for it. I used some brake/transmission line back in the day, and if my brain isn't misfiring, I think even a bic biro ball point pen tube fit just right. I was modifying to be .25 paintball caliber, but a rocksalt shotgun shouldn't care if the load is going into a slightly bigger tube.
Salt has a MOHS hardness of 2.0, fingernails are 2.5, it should be totally safe if using pure salt (sodium chloride).
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If this Vigilante is basically the old Crosman 357, which I think it is, I'd recommend taking the barrel tube out and replacing it with something else. Salt can't be good for it. I used some brake/transmission line back in the day, and if my brain isn't misfiring, I think even a bic biro ball point pen tube fit just right. I was modifying to be .25 paintball caliber, but a rocksalt shotgun shouldn't care if the load is going into a slightly bigger tube.
Salt has a MOHS hardness of 2.0, fingernails are 2.5, it should be totally safe if using pure salt (sodium chloride).
Ha, tell me the MOHS of Kosher salt! Have the flies been sacrificed correctly?
"...should be totally safe..."
I wasn't even thinking about scratching the barrel, though good to know it won't. I was thinking more along the lines of increased corrosion.
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If this Vigilante is basically the old Crosman 357, which I think it is, I'd recommend taking the barrel tube out and replacing it with something else. Salt can't be good for it. I used some brake/transmission line back in the day, and if my brain isn't misfiring, I think even a bic biro ball point pen tube fit just right. I was modifying to be .25 paintball caliber, but a rocksalt shotgun shouldn't care if the load is going into a slightly bigger tube.
Salt has a MOHS hardness of 2.0, fingernails are 2.5, it should be totally safe if using pure salt (sodium chloride).
Ha, tell me the MOHS of Kosher salt! Have the flies been sacrificed correctly?
"...should be totally safe..."
I wasn't even thinking about scratching the barrel, though good to know it won't. I was thinking more along the lines of increased corrosion.
I hadn't thought about corrosion. If the salt gets at all moist it could stick to just about everything from breech to muzzle, so you make a good point. Can you change the barrel easily on the vigilante? Is there a lot of stuff between the cylinder/magazine and the muzzle? I really don't know anything about these guns, but I am curious. Wishing the range was more like 5-10' with the salt, but 3' might still be fun.
Edit: I would only use Kosher salt as everything else on the market has additives, anti clumping agents, etc. Kosher salt is pure sodium chloride.
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I hadn't thought about corrosion. If the salt gets at all moist it could stick to just about everything from breech to muzzle, so you make a good point. Can you change the barrel easily on the vigilante? Is there a lot of stuff between the cylinder/magazine and the muzzle? I really don't know anything about these guns, but I am curious. Wishing the range was more like 5-10' with the salt, but 3' might still be fun.
Edit: I would only use Kosher salt as everything else on the market has additives, anti clumping agents, etc. Kosher salt is pure sodium chloride.
If the barrel assembly is like the old 357, which from a video I saw, looks like it is, and has the same simple metal "clip" holding the barrel tube into the rest of the housing. Hopefully someone will confirm that...
A longer barrel might "choke" the pattern. At some point I want to try this with my 357 8" (and not the original barrel tube!)
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I hadn't thought about corrosion. If the salt gets at all moist it could stick to just about everything from breech to muzzle, so you make a good point. Can you change the barrel easily on the vigilante? Is there a lot of stuff between the cylinder/magazine and the muzzle? I really don't know anything about these guns, but I am curious. Wishing the range was more like 5-10' with the salt, but 3' might still be fun.
Edit: I would only use Kosher salt as everything else on the market has additives, anti clumping agents, etc. Kosher salt is pure sodium chloride.
If the barrel assembly is like the old 357, which from a video I saw, looks like it is, and has the same simple metal "clip" holding the barrel tube into the rest of the housing. Hopefully someone will confirm that...
A longer barrel might "choke" the pattern. At some point I want to try this with my 357 8" (and not the original barrel tube!)
I have almost zero knowledge on CO2 guns. It doesn't look like the Vigilante has swappable barrels. Based on the videos I watched of the salt cartridges getting reloaded the Vigilante will make a tighter "pattern" than the Shred-er. At the "breech" end of the Shred-er barrel there is a divider and that really opens the pattern. I bet the Vigilante has more range as well in comparison. I'm pretty close to buying a Vigilante just to try loading it with salt.