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Airguns by Make and Model => Vintage Air Gun Gate => Topic started by: Steelontarget on February 19, 2022, 11:45:27 PM

Title: Patent Drawings
Post by: Steelontarget on February 19, 2022, 11:45:27 PM
I thought that it might be interesting to post some of the patent drawings of vintage airguns before the introduction of CNC machinery.

(https://patentpending.blogs.com/patent_pending_blog/images/hamilton_bb_gun.jpg)

(http://www.vintageairguns.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/wppa/494.jpg)

(https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/1/old-pistol-patent-dan-sproul.jpg)

(https://secure.img1-fg.wfcdn.com/lf/8/hash/44321/55602940/1/1.jpg)

(https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/2/pp777-antique-grid-parchment-daisy-air-rifle-patent-art-cole-borders.jpg)
Title: Re: Patent Drawings
Post by: 45flint on February 20, 2022, 08:36:51 AM
My favorite air pistol:

(https://i.imgur.com/XjccLV7.jpg)
Title: Re: Patent Drawings
Post by: Hoosier Daddy on February 20, 2022, 08:43:16 AM
I saved the Benjamin from 1898 and printing it to frame and hang in the "gun room"
Very Cool!
Title: Re: Patent Drawings
Post by: Back_Roads on February 20, 2022, 09:08:56 AM
I saved the Benjamin from 1898 and printing it to frame and hang in the "gun room"
Very Cool!

 Yes that is some fine art :)
Title: Re: Patent Drawings
Post by: Steelontarget on February 20, 2022, 09:39:35 AM
I took drafting in high school.  I was pretty good at it but never stuck with it.  So when I look at these drawings it's with more than just a little admiration.

Those designs were brought from the drafting table to actual production with T-squares, triangles, French-curves, compasses and slide rules.
Title: Re: Patent Drawings
Post by: DIAMOND on February 20, 2022, 01:08:25 PM
I took drafting in high school.  I was pretty good at it but never stuck with it.  So when I look at these drawings it's with more than just a little admiration.

Those designs were brought from the drafting table to actual production with T-squares, triangles, French-curves, compasses and slide rules.

Me as well.  :D

I took all the drafting and mechanical drawing classes, as well as shop classes my school offered. Art too.
Title: Re: Patent Drawings
Post by: Hoosier Daddy on February 20, 2022, 02:24:39 PM
Ditto.
 Dad pulled a stint as a Draftsman after the Korean War at the local McCray Plant.
If you go to an old Grocery store and lean over the open top refrigerator / Freezer. look at the label and see if it is a McCray... My Dad drafted that.

I still have his T-Square, 45-90 and 30-60-90.. as well and a variety of French curves.
Title: Re: Patent Drawings
Post by: Glasstomb on February 20, 2022, 02:45:22 PM
Is the that amazing refrigerator still working in the McCray house?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPmWHFdPC4I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPmWHFdPC4I)
Title: Re: Patent Drawings
Post by: Steelontarget on February 20, 2022, 03:07:46 PM
Found some more...

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f1/21/b8/f121b853b692a92dd44f3b235b04db37.jpg)

(https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pages/US1862697-0.png)

(https://orro.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/vented-flask.jpg)

(https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pages/US2568432-2.png)

(https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pages/US2568432-1.png)

(http://cinedux.com/resources/1960web.jpg)

(https://patentpending.blogs.com/patent_pending_blog/images/plymough_air_rifle.jpg)

(http://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/US20020178901A1/US20020178901A1-20021205-D00001.png)
Title: Re: Patent Drawings
Post by: 45flint on February 20, 2022, 03:48:05 PM
The genius of Hugo Schmeisser.  Repeating mechanism, so rare to find today.

(https://i.imgur.com/V2HG6kP.jpg)
Title: Re: Patent Drawings
Post by: aaron david on February 20, 2022, 10:53:25 PM
These are really nice. I have been looking for a set of drawings for a Webley MkI rifle, as I have been thinking of making something similar. Right now I am reverse engineering from a pair of pistols.
Title: Re: Patent Drawings
Post by: 45flint on February 20, 2022, 11:26:22 PM
These are really nice. I have been looking for a set of drawings for a Webley MkI rifle, as I have been thinking of making something similar. Right now I am reverse engineering from a pair of pistols.

These are interesting rifles, not really successful during its time so few were made.  What strikes you is how small it is compared to most rifles. My example with the contemporary Target pistol.


(https://i.imgur.com/aq9Q4X7.jpg)
Title: Re: Patent Drawings
Post by: aaron david on February 21, 2022, 08:46:31 AM
Very nice. If I get serious about this project I may end up contacting you for some info at various points, if you don't mind.
Title: Re: Patent Drawings
Post by: 45flint on February 21, 2022, 08:58:35 AM
Very nice. If I get serious about this project I may end up contacting you for some info at various points, if you don't mind.

That’s fine, found this is a book:

(https://i.imgur.com/UAgI1LH.jpg)
Title: Re: Patent Drawings
Post by: aaron david on February 21, 2022, 11:14:10 AM
Ah, that is very helpful. Is it from the Webley rifle book? I might need to break down and pick that up.
Title: Re: Patent Drawings
Post by: 45flint on February 21, 2022, 11:31:21 AM
Ah, that is very helpful. Is it from the Webley rifle book? I might need to break down and pick that up.

Yes, excellent book has many examples of the MK1 and log of current known examples. 
Title: Re: Patent Drawings
Post by: Steelontarget on February 21, 2022, 11:43:54 AM
The genius of Hugo Schmeisser.  Repeating mechanism, so rare to find today.

(https://i.imgur.com/V2HG6kP.jpg)

That looks like a round pellet magazine. Correct?

If so, do you think he got the idea from the Lewis machine gun?
Title: Re: Patent Drawings
Post by: 45flint on February 21, 2022, 12:18:33 PM
The genius of Hugo Schmeisser.  Repeating mechanism, so rare to find today.

(https://i.imgur.com/V2HG6kP.jpg)

That looks like a round pellet magazine. Correct?

If so, do you think he got the idea from the Lewis machine gun?

Yes round magazine for standard pellets.  You would think he got the idea from round mags on firearms like the Lewis? He designed machine guns.  But the machining is something that would never be attempted today!  These are a crazy rare find today, made in the 1930’s. I have seen a couple in 5 years collecting. 

(https://i.imgur.com/1DMSqOM.jpg)
Title: Re: Patent Drawings
Post by: Steelontarget on February 21, 2022, 02:48:44 PM
The genius of Hugo Schmeisser.  Repeating mechanism, so rare to find today.

(https://i.imgur.com/V2HG6kP.jpg)

That looks like a round pellet magazine. Correct?

If so, do you think he got the idea from the Lewis machine gun?

Yes round magazine for standard pellets.  You would think he got the idea from round mags on firearms like the Lewis? He designed machine guns.  But the machining is something that would never be attempted today!  These are a crazy rare find today, made in the 1930’s. I have seen a couple in 5 years collecting. 

(https://i.imgur.com/1DMSqOM.jpg)

Maybe the Lewis gun was the genesis of thought for the evolution to the Gamo Swarm.

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fm.media-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FS%2Faplus-media%2Fvc%2F8f24eec6-9009-4006-83dd-73955aa1389c._CR0%2C0%2C970%2C300_PT0_SX970__.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fhardairmagazine.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F01%2FHAM-10X-2.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fhardairmagazine.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F03%2FHAM-Swarm-barrel-broken.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
Title: Re: Patent Drawings
Post by: Hoosier Daddy on February 21, 2022, 08:04:39 PM
Is the that amazing refrigerator still working in the McCray house?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPmWHFdPC4I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPmWHFdPC4I)

Yep, It has been a while since I was in the "McCray Mansion", but it was still there last time.
Thank for the link.  ;)
Title: Re: Patent Drawings
Post by: Pellet Fun on February 24, 2022, 10:08:19 AM
Thanks everyone for sharing these patent drawings. I really enjoy them and only wish there were more available. Maybe if there were enough the power’s that be would make this a sticky. After all, it represents the foundation for our interests.