GTA
Airguns by Make and Model => Vintage Air Gun Gate => Topic started by: Glasstomb on February 18, 2022, 10:32:58 AM
-
Just realized that this silver streak is the same one from two years ago. here link to old thread.
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=176107.msg155991353#msg155991353 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=176107.msg155991353#msg155991353)
-
Has it "resurfaced"?
*EDIT*
Never mind, I found it... https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=196532.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=196532.0)
-
It did resurface. I picked it up today. As I mentioned in the other thread it'd missing all of the cam prats the bolt and bolt lug. And there's a blockage in the barrel. I think there are multiple pellets stuck.
Here's what I was able to get out so far. And barrel is still blocked. Used a wooden dowel but what's left in there will not budge. Anyone have an idea on removal options?
-
Are those .22 rimfire slugs?!!
-
They do look like it. Maybe I'll try jamming in another one and set it off. (lol) They are hollow though. And I found RBQChicken's old post on removing stuck pellets. The picture he shows of the pellets look a lot like what I've gotten out so far. The streak is maybe 65-70 yrs old. Pellets might have been in there 50yrs? Amazing how many there are. you'd think that after two three, four or five the shooter would realize somethings wrong.
-
They do look like it. Maybe I'll try jamming in another one and set it off. (lol) They are hollow though. And I found RBQChicken's old post on removing stuck pellets. The picture he shows of the pellets look a lot like what I've gotten out so far. The streak is maybe 65-70 yrs old. Pellets might have been in there 50yrs? Amazing how many there are. you'd think that after two three, four or five the shooter would realize somethings wrong.
I think most of the time they were hoping they could eventually get tbe James shot clear.
-
I was able to clear a crosman barrel that had about 13 pellets of various types stuck. I can't believe people can keep shooting , and not realize that nothing is coming out the other end. I used a bronze/brass welding rod and tapped from the crown towards the breech. Use some lubricant like kroil or air compressor oil and let your rifle stand upright to allow the oil to penetrate. Best of luck.
-
I have used a drill bit glued to a cleaning rod before.
I think if I ever did that again today, it would need to be tack welded or something else stronger then super glue. The bit comes off and you'll really have a problem!
-
I have used a drill bit glued to a cleaning rod before.
I think if I ever did that again today, it would need to be tack welded or something else stronger then super glue. The bit comes off and you'll really have a problem!
Wished you told me that earlier. Tried a long drill bit and used a vise grip to turn. Tip broke off. I really have a problem. Put in PB Blaster and let it soak overnight. hoping that works
-
Oh my. I hope you can get the ret o those out & get it repaired.
-
Trying to date it. Thinking it may be '51 or prior. Here's some pictures. Sights, markings and pump arm. The pump arm is held with screws. Must have cracked long ago and someone used epoxy to fix.
-
Pushing on a mass of jammed pellets often will only tighten their hold in the barrel as it expands them when skirts are shoved against the noses of their buddies. I ground a coarse screw thread on the end of a 3/16 drill rod (think drywall screw) and use it to bite into one pellet at a time to pull them out the muzzle. Tedious but works well.
Don R.
-
I prolly shouldn't post this, but...
Back in the day, a few thermostats worth of mercury poured into the barrel would dissolve the pellets jammed in it. I learned that from a gunsmith. It takes a few days, but it works... Setting the gun in a coffee can to catch the mercury is a good practice. It REALLY cleans up the barrel, too.
Getting rid of lead-alloyed mercury is another matter entirely, as it's rather toxic.
Luck,
J~
-
Good tip. I have a couple of old Honeywells. Might give it a try as a last resort.
-
Interesting, but make sure it's safe for brass, first!
-
I use a 1/8" "aircraft" drill bit like this one to carefully remove stuck pellets. https://www.stewmac.com/luthier-tools-and-supplies/types-of-tools/drill-bits/12-aircraft-extension-drill-bit/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=2022-02-gp&gclid=Cj0KCQiAmeKQBhDvARIsAHJ7mF4yVIM-3X5wnxaBlSbSVvYHl1gj6zdf6RLwPzouM2ta0YqQ5_yfvH4aAqjCEALw_wcB (https://www.stewmac.com/luthier-tools-and-supplies/types-of-tools/drill-bits/12-aircraft-extension-drill-bit/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=2022-02-gp&gclid=Cj0KCQiAmeKQBhDvARIsAHJ7mF4yVIM-3X5wnxaBlSbSVvYHl1gj6zdf6RLwPzouM2ta0YqQ5_yfvH4aAqjCEALw_wcB)
I clamp it in a tap handle or maybe in a drill motor and run it at VERY LOW speed.
-
I use a 1/8" "aircraft" drill bit like this one to carefully remove stuck pellets. https://www.stewmac.com/luthier-tools-and-supplies/types-of-tools/drill-bits/12-aircraft-extension-drill-bit/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=2022-02-gp&gclid=Cj0KCQiAmeKQBhDvARIsAHJ7mF4yVIM-3X5wnxaBlSbSVvYHl1gj6zdf6RLwPzouM2ta0YqQ5_yfvH4aAqjCEALw_wcB (https://www.stewmac.com/luthier-tools-and-supplies/types-of-tools/drill-bits/12-aircraft-extension-drill-bit/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=2022-02-gp&gclid=Cj0KCQiAmeKQBhDvARIsAHJ7mF4yVIM-3X5wnxaBlSbSVvYHl1gj6zdf6RLwPzouM2ta0YqQ5_yfvH4aAqjCEALw_wcB)
I clamp it in a tap handle or maybe in a drill motor and run it at VERY LOW speed.
Jeff-
Thanks for the tip. I've been using one I got a Lowe's https://www.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-1-8-in-x-Standard-Twist-Drill-Bit/3419822 (https://www.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-1-8-in-x-Standard-Twist-Drill-Bit/3419822)
It's slow going and I believe there's something other than pellets stuck. What I thought were lead shavings coming out turned out to be magnetic. Seems that there's something metallic in the barrel. Barrel is still blocked about 9" from the breach end and 4" from the muzzle.
-
Eesh. Something magnetic stuck in a brass barrel doesn't sound good for rifling. I saw that gun on Craigslist quite a bit, I think it was constantly being flagged for TOS. I think somebody acquired it, took what parts they needed knowing the barrel jam, and the gun probably came and went via lot sales.
-
Oh no ! I am sorry to hear that. It may wind up as a parts gun.
-
Sad to hear that.
-
I don't know if you've seen it, but there's a thread here on stuck pellets in a Sheridan. - https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=132540.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=132540.0)
I'd pull the valve out and try a propane (or pencil) torch (and keep track of the heat with an infrared thermometer) were the gun mine. Lead melts at a much lower temp than silver-solder does. Wet rags will soak up heat and keep it from going where you don't want it to go. The barrel is phosphor-bronze, so you won't be able to melt it with propane or butane.
Good luck,
J~
-
Eesh. Something magnetic stuck in a brass barrel doesn't sound good for rifling. I saw that gun on Craigslist quite a bit, I think it was constantly being flagged for TOS. I think somebody acquired it, took what parts they needed knowing the barrel jam, and the gun probably came and went via lot sales.
Jon -
It first showed up on craigslist in July 0f 2020. Seller decided to keep it at the time. Fast forward to this month and it was relisted on craigslist. Same seller from 2020. Existing parts are probably worth more that what I paid but I really want to get it shooting again. I've sourced most of missing parts but the straight bolt may be impossible to find. There's no small hole on the right side of the receiver so it's probably a '49 or '50 model. And it's polished to a chrome like finish so if not fixable it's still a cool wall hanger.