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Title: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on January 25, 2022, 03:39:03 PM
Well, my #2 arrived a day early, and I didn't waste any time slapping the .25 barrel and breech on it. Average velocity with my 22 grain cast wadcutters is 520 on 8 pumps. Accuracy? I don't know yet. If you look close you'll see why testing ended. Yep, the handle broke on my Baker big bore breech.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: avator on January 25, 2022, 03:55:01 PM
I'm assuming that's what gave your gun that case of the 'blues'...  :o :o
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on January 25, 2022, 03:57:58 PM
That and one of them IG filters.  ;D
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: avator on January 25, 2022, 04:11:25 PM
Whew... I was hoping you didn't paint it like that....  :o
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on January 25, 2022, 04:33:07 PM
Better?
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: avator on January 25, 2022, 04:43:47 PM
yes, much.    ;)


Ok, so what do you intend to do about the broken bolt knob... do you have a spare?
What do you think caused it?
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on January 25, 2022, 04:59:37 PM
yes, much.    ;)


Ok, so what do you intend to do about the broken bolt knob... do you have a spare?
What do you think caused it?

Already drilled it out and threaded the handle from my 22 cal alchemy bolt into it. It's just a little too fat for the channel in the Baker breech though. I'll find a bolt that works around here somewhere or order another one.

It was a little difficult to close, but not what I would consider excessive. I'm going to investigate and see if I need to remove some material from the chamber end of the barrel and reface it. I'm not sure what to call it in the airgun world, but if I were talking PBs I would say it's a possible headspace issue.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: bender ville on January 25, 2022, 05:03:45 PM
yes, much.    ;)


Ok, so what do you intend to do about the broken bolt knob... do you have a spare?
What do you think caused it?

Already drilled it out and threaded the handle from my 22 cal alchemy bolt into it. It's just a little too fat for the channel in the Baker breech though. I'll find a bolt that works around here somewhere or order another one.

It was a little difficult to close, but not what I would consider excessive. I'm going to investigate and see if I need to remove some material from the chamber end of the barrel and reface it. I'm not sure what to call it in the airgun world, but if I were talking PBs I would say it's a possible headspace issue.
    cant wait to hear how you like it when you get done testing
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on January 25, 2022, 05:11:20 PM
yes, much.    ;)


Ok, so what do you intend to do about the broken bolt knob... do you have a spare?
What do you think caused it?

Already drilled it out and threaded the handle from my 22 cal alchemy bolt into it. It's just a little too fat for the channel in the Baker breech though. I'll find a bolt that works around here somewhere or order another one.

It was a little difficult to close, but not what I would consider excessive. I'm going to investigate and see if I need to remove some material from the chamber end of the barrel and reface it. I'm not sure what to call it in the airgun world, but if I were talking PBs I would say it's a possible headspace issue.
    cant wait to hear how you like it when you get done testing

Thanks! I was dialing it in when the bolt handle broke, but it was looking promising. I'm really happy getting 520 fps with 8 pumps. That's a good velocity for these wadcutters.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: avator on January 25, 2022, 05:45:54 PM
Eddie, are you sure it's not a pellet loading issue?
Are you familiar with the SPA loading issues? It may be like that.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on January 25, 2022, 05:55:19 PM
Eddie, are you sure it's not a pellet loading issue?
Are you familiar with the SPA loading issues? It may be like that.

The Baker big bore breech seals against the face of the chamber with a washer and not your typical o-ring setup. I'm pretty sure that's what the issue is now that I've looked closer. The turned down portion of my barrel is a little too long for the port to be dead centered as it should be. I think taking a little off the end will solve that.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on January 25, 2022, 07:55:25 PM
This is the Baker bolt face and seal.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Spacebus on January 25, 2022, 09:32:32 PM
I'm still thinking about getting a barrel from Alchemy, but that's a one way transition for me without buying another rifle. Perhaps after my DF II gets here so I'll still have a .22 pumper.

My 2lbs of pure tin got here today. Eventually I'll get around to casting some .22 NOE Hunters and .25 NOE WC's in pure tin and see how they do. Should be about 12.5 grains for the hunters and 14.5 grain for the WC's, and should have a bit better BC as well. All of my rifles like the Predator GTO's and H&N Green lead free pellets, so I'm hoping my home cast will make sub 1" groups at range.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Wayne52 on January 25, 2022, 10:44:27 PM
I've got 2 25 cal barrels kicking around here,  I do have another gun coming but didn't have plans for converting it to another caliber.  One barrel is from a DAR and the other is from my M11.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Back_Roads on January 26, 2022, 04:16:40 PM
 That is respectable for .25 8)
 This just in, I was reading this, and thought hey I should check my tracking, WOW UPS dropped off right after I came in from putting more logs on the fire.  :o This ones SN is 00760, I think this one gets put away as my specimen.  8) So #Number 00731 gets the mods.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on January 26, 2022, 04:21:15 PM
That is respectable for .25 8)
 This just in, I was reading this, and thought hey I should check my tracking, WOW UPS dropped off right after I came in from putting more logs on the fire.  :o This ones SN is 00760, I think this one gets put away as my specimen.  8) So #Number 00731 gets the mods.

760 is a great Crosman number for sure. I'm keeping my 327 pristine. I put a Buck-Rail barrel clamp and a red dot on it today, and it's shooting great.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: avator on January 26, 2022, 04:22:33 PM
I'm loving these low numbers.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on January 26, 2022, 04:24:08 PM
I'm glad my #2 was over 1000. I didn't feel as bad about hacking it up.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Keepingitsimple on January 26, 2022, 06:39:29 PM
Yep, the handle broke on my Baker big bore breech.

You too? The Crosman OEM bolt handle broke on my 362 the other day. It was the bolt on the 2240 steel breech. Surprised the heck out of me. I immediately ordered a replacement extended probe and handle from ebay. It'll be here in a few days and I can get back to shooting.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on January 26, 2022, 07:02:40 PM
Yep, the handle broke on my Baker big bore breech.

You too? The Crosman OEM bolt handle broke on my 362 the other day. It was the bolt on the 2240 steel breech. Surprised the heck out of me. I immediately ordered a replacement extended probe and handle from ebay. It'll be here in a few days and I can get back to shooting.

Mine was an aftermarket bolt, but thanks for letting me know because I was going to buy a Crosman bolt handle to replace it.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Back_Roads on January 26, 2022, 07:06:09 PM
Yep, the handle broke on my Baker big bore breech.

You too? The Crosman OEM bolt handle broke on my 362 the other day. It was the bolt on the 2240 steel breech. Surprised the heck out of me. I immediately ordered a replacement extended probe and handle from ebay. It'll be here in a few days and I can get back to shooting.

Mine was an aftermarket bolt, but thanks for letting me know because I was going to buy a Crosman bolt handle to replace it.
Arrow field tips come in the same thread size you have to shorten the threads so they do not go all the way through the bolt, and cause galling and sticki age.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Wayne52 on January 26, 2022, 07:12:34 PM
Jacob if this is the one that you ordered it's longer than the original bolt/probe that the 362 came with, mine actually lost about 20fps using this probe, the cost on ebay is $19.88 + $3 shipping, it comes from Alchemy Werks.

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/IpgAAMXQdx5RGOkr/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on January 26, 2022, 07:32:19 PM
Yep, the handle broke on my Baker big bore breech.

You too? The Crosman OEM bolt handle broke on my 362 the other day. It was the bolt on the 2240 steel breech. Surprised the heck out of me. I immediately ordered a replacement extended probe and handle from ebay. It'll be here in a few days and I can get back to shooting.

Mine was an aftermarket bolt, but thanks for letting me know because I was going to buy a Crosman bolt handle to replace it.
Arrow field tips come in the same thread size you have to shorten the threads so they do not go all the way through the bolt, and cause galling and sticki age.

Thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Spacebus on January 26, 2022, 08:45:46 PM
Yep, the handle broke on my Baker big bore breech.

You too? The Crosman OEM bolt handle broke on my 362 the other day. It was the bolt on the 2240 steel breech. Surprised the heck out of me. I immediately ordered a replacement extended probe and handle from ebay. It'll be here in a few days and I can get back to shooting.

Mine was an aftermarket bolt, but thanks for letting me know because I was going to buy a Crosman bolt handle to replace it.
Arrow field tips come in the same thread size you have to shorten the threads so they do not go all the way through the bolt, and cause galling and sticki age.

Thanks for the tip!

nice pun
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Back_Roads on January 26, 2022, 08:50:44 PM
 ;D Very Punny ;)
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on January 26, 2022, 09:31:02 PM
These look perfect but the not so punny part is they are 11/32 and not 8/32.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EASTON-11-32-SCREW-IN-R-P-S-BLUNT-POINTS-for-ALUMINUM-ARROWS-SMALL-GAME-HUNTING-/172279309470?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/EASTON-11-32-SCREW-IN-R-P-S-BLUNT-POINTS-for-ALUMINUM-ARROWS-SMALL-GAME-HUNTING-/172279309470?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0)
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Back_Roads on January 26, 2022, 10:00:49 PM
These look perfect but the not so punny part is they are 11/32 and not 8/32.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EASTON-11-32-SCREW-IN-R-P-S-BLUNT-POINTS-for-ALUMINUM-ARROWS-SMALL-GAME-HUNTING-/172279309470?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/EASTON-11-32-SCREW-IN-R-P-S-BLUNT-POINTS-for-ALUMINUM-ARROWS-SMALL-GAME-HUNTING-/172279309470?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0)

 This style has a size selection, a little pointy, I have some of those, but round off the tip they do not penatrate as far.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/352840780088? (https://www.ebay.com/itm/352840780088?)
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on January 26, 2022, 10:21:34 PM
These look perfect but the not so punny part is they are 11/32 and not 8/32.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EASTON-11-32-SCREW-IN-R-P-S-BLUNT-POINTS-for-ALUMINUM-ARROWS-SMALL-GAME-HUNTING-/172279309470?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/EASTON-11-32-SCREW-IN-R-P-S-BLUNT-POINTS-for-ALUMINUM-ARROWS-SMALL-GAME-HUNTING-/172279309470?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0)

 This style has a size selection, a little pointy, I have some of those, but round off the tip they do not penatrate as far.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/352840780088? (https://www.ebay.com/itm/352840780088?)

None of the selections are for 8/32 though. From what I'm reading Crosman bolts are threaded 8/32.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: wll2506 on January 26, 2022, 10:48:54 PM
These look perfect but the not so punny part is they are 11/32 and not 8/32.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EASTON-11-32-SCREW-IN-R-P-S-BLUNT-POINTS-for-ALUMINUM-ARROWS-SMALL-GAME-HUNTING-/172279309470?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/EASTON-11-32-SCREW-IN-R-P-S-BLUNT-POINTS-for-ALUMINUM-ARROWS-SMALL-GAME-HUNTING-/172279309470?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0)

11/32 is the OD of the point to match the arrow shaft, the thread is 8/32 ----
How do I know, my business is archery manufacturing !

wll
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on January 26, 2022, 11:35:35 PM
These look perfect but the not so punny part is they are 11/32 and not 8/32.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EASTON-11-32-SCREW-IN-R-P-S-BLUNT-POINTS-for-ALUMINUM-ARROWS-SMALL-GAME-HUNTING-/172279309470?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/EASTON-11-32-SCREW-IN-R-P-S-BLUNT-POINTS-for-ALUMINUM-ARROWS-SMALL-GAME-HUNTING-/172279309470?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0)

11/32 is the OD of the point to match the arrow shaft, the thread is 8/32 ----
How do I know, my business is archery manufacturing !

wll

Thank you for the clarification! That's what makes out community so great for simple minded folks like me.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Wayne52 on January 27, 2022, 01:59:47 AM
My second one will be here Friday according to tracking that I got from Crosman, it's at it's last stop in NY right now so the package is on it's way now.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Keepingitsimple on January 27, 2022, 10:32:40 AM
[quote author=Wayne52
Jacob if this is the one that you ordered it's longer than the original bolt/probe that the 362 came with, mine actually lost about 20fps using this probe, the cost on ebay is $19.88 + $3 shipping, it comes from Alchemy Werks.

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/IpgAAMXQdx5RGOkr/s-l1600.jpg)
[/quote]

Be nice if the original bolt/probe that the 362 came with wasn't riveted. This is the bolt and handle I ordered to replace the bolt that broke.

WOW .177 Cal Stainless Extended Probe + Faceted Handle for Crosman 2240...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/303098706293 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/303098706293)
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Rick67 on January 27, 2022, 11:15:48 AM
[quote author=Wayne52
Jacob if this is the one that you ordered it's longer than the original bolt/probe that the 362 came with, mine actually lost about 20fps using this probe, the cost on ebay is $19.88 + $3 shipping, it comes from Alchemy Werks.

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/IpgAAMXQdx5RGOkr/s-l1600.jpg)

Be nice if the original bolt/probe that the 362 came with wasn't riveted. This is the bolt and handle I ordered to replace the bolt that broke.

WOW .177 Cal Stainless Extended Probe + Faceted Handle for Crosman 2240...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/303098706293 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/303098706293)
[/quote]


Benjamin Disco parts.

Check out Don Cothran.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Spacebus on January 27, 2022, 11:42:05 AM
[quote author=Wayne52
Jacob if this is the one that you ordered it's longer than the original bolt/probe that the 362 came with, mine actually lost about 20fps using this probe, the cost on ebay is $19.88 + $3 shipping, it comes from Alchemy Werks.

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/IpgAAMXQdx5RGOkr/s-l1600.jpg)

Be nice if the original bolt/probe that the 362 came with wasn't riveted. This is the bolt and handle I ordered to replace the bolt that broke.

WOW .177 Cal Stainless Extended Probe + Faceted Handle for Crosman 2240...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/303098706293 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/303098706293)


Benjamin Disco parts.

Check out Don Cothran.
[/quote]

To me it sounds like the c362 is made of the best parts of the 13xx, disco, and maximus platforms.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Keepingitsimple on January 27, 2022, 11:47:50 AM
[quote author=Wayne52
Jacob if this is the one that you ordered it's longer than the original bolt/probe that the 362 came with, mine actually lost about 20fps using this probe, the cost on ebay is $19.88 + $3 shipping, it comes from Alchemy Werks.

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/IpgAAMXQdx5RGOkr/s-l1600.jpg)

Be nice if the original bolt/probe that the 362 came with wasn't riveted. This is the bolt and handle I ordered to replace the bolt that broke.

WOW .177 Cal Stainless Extended Probe + Faceted Handle for Crosman 2240...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/303098706293 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/303098706293)


Benjamin Disco parts.

Check out Don Cothran.
[/quote]

Thanks. Looks like he does good work. I bookmarked the page.
http://airgunartisans.com/AADonCParts.htm (http://airgunartisans.com/AADonCParts.htm)
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Spacebus on January 27, 2022, 12:05:55 PM
Could I take an alchemy air .25 cal barrel and have the whole thing turned down by a machinist to 7/16" like a normal Crosman .22 barrel?
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on January 27, 2022, 01:44:39 PM
Could I take an alchemy air .25 cal barrel and have the whole thing turned down by a machinist to 7/16" like a normal Crosman .22 barrel?

I'm not sure about his current stock, but my Alchemy .25 barrel was already turn down to 7/16
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Spacebus on January 27, 2022, 02:19:53 PM
Could I take an alchemy air .25 cal barrel and have the whole thing turned down by a machinist to 7/16" like a normal Crosman .22 barrel?

I'm not sure about his current stock, but my Alchemy .25 barrel was already turn down to 7/16

Well, that makes this easier, I thought it was just the breech end that was turned down. Today I stumbled across his solid brass sight holder and thought it would be perfect in combination with the .25 cal barrel for a front sight fixture. I also have 2 lbs of pure tin waiting for nice weather and the NOE .25 WC mold should drop the ideal pellet weight in pure tin. Would make an awesome 25 yard and less game getter!
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on January 27, 2022, 02:30:42 PM
Could I take an alchemy air .25 cal barrel and have the whole thing turned down by a machinist to 7/16" like a normal Crosman .22 barrel?

I'm not sure about his current stock, but my Alchemy .25 barrel was already turn down to 7/16

Well, that makes this easier, I thought it was just the breech end that was turned down. Today I stumbled across his solid brass sight holder and thought it would be perfect in combination with the .25 cal barrel for a front sight fixture. I also have 2 lbs of pure tin waiting for nice weather and the NOE .25 WC mold should drop the ideal pellet weight in pure tin. Would make an awesome 25 yard and less game getter!

Sorry, I'm a night shift guy and I just woke up. It is the breech end. I missed the part about the whole barrel.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on January 27, 2022, 02:34:42 PM
I also have 2 lbs of pure tin waiting for nice weather and the NOE .25 WC mold should drop the ideal pellet weight in pure tin. Would make an awesome 25 yard and less game getter!

I'm casting the same wadcutter in pure lead, and my converted 362 is pushing them around 520 fps. That's pretty close to a perfect velocity for them.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on January 27, 2022, 08:22:11 PM
These look perfect but the not so punny part is they are 11/32 and not 8/32.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EASTON-11-32-SCREW-IN-R-P-S-BLUNT-POINTS-for-ALUMINUM-ARROWS-SMALL-GAME-HUNTING-/172279309470?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/EASTON-11-32-SCREW-IN-R-P-S-BLUNT-POINTS-for-ALUMINUM-ARROWS-SMALL-GAME-HUNTING-/172279309470?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0)

11/32 is the OD of the point to match the arrow shaft, the thread is 8/32 ----
How do I know, my business is archery manufacturing !

wll

Thank you for the clarification! That's what makes out community so great for simple minded folks like me.

I ordered the points from ebay that I listed above. I'll let you know how they work out.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Firewalker on January 30, 2022, 01:16:22 PM
I grabbed a bag as well and will throw them in the lathe to pretty them up and reshape them for my phalanges.  ::)
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on January 30, 2022, 02:05:21 PM
I grabbed a bag as well and will throw them in the lathe to pretty them up and reshape them for my phalanges.  ::)

I need a lathe. One day soon, I hope.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Firewalker on January 30, 2022, 03:11:51 PM
I grabbed a bag as well and will throw them in the lathe to pretty them up and reshape them for my phalanges.  ::)

I need a lathe. One day soon, I hope.

Throw a few in an envelope along with a post paid return envelope and a simple drawing and I'll be happy to turn a few for you. I am getting into my lathe season, early spring, dry, minimal extra wood to heat the shop, sunny, what's not to like?

Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on January 30, 2022, 03:19:22 PM
I grabbed a bag as well and will throw them in the lathe to pretty them up and reshape them for my phalanges.  ::)

I need a lathe. One day soon, I hope.

Throw a few in an envelope along with a post paid return envelope and a simple drawing and I'll be happy to turn a few for you. I am getting into my lathe season, early spring, dry, minimal extra wood to heat the shop, sunny, what's not to like?

Thanks! I'll try to get the slugs done this week. Between my wife's recovery and omicron I still haven't been able to do any casting.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: rsterne on January 30, 2022, 03:54:54 PM
So using Crosman's numbering system, where a .177 cal would be a 367, this would be a 365?.... Nice close range smacker, especially with wadcutters....  8)

With a bit of tuning (eg. shortening the hammer spring) it could be made into a non-PAL (sub 500 fps) .25 cal pumper for Canada.... I did that with a 2289, and by retaining air it would never exceed 500 fps, no matter how many pumps....   ;)

Bob
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on January 30, 2022, 04:12:58 PM
So using Crosman's numbering system, where a .177 cal would be a 367, this would be a 365?.... Nice close range smacker, especially with wadcutters....  8)

With a bit of tuning (eg. shortening the hammer spring) it could be made into a non-PAL (sub 500 fps) .25 cal pumper for Canada.... I did that with a 2289, and by retaining air it would never exceed 500 fps, no matter how many pumps....   ;)

Bob

I'll definitely be calling it my 365.


It is going to be a good close range smacker from the testing I've been doing with these wadcutters. Right around 500 fps seems ideal for them.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Firewalker on February 03, 2022, 07:10:00 PM
I grabbed a bag as well and will throw them in the lathe to pretty them up and reshape them for my phalanges.  ::)

Just got them in today and shined up two of them in about 30 seconds, ran the tooling into one to kick a few grooves just to see hoe ward the steel was, it's pretty mild...  :P


Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: moorepower on February 03, 2022, 07:28:32 PM
I grabbed a bag as well and will throw them in the lathe to pretty them up and reshape them for my phalanges.  ::)

Just got them in today and shined up two of them in about 30 seconds, ran the tooling into one to kick a few grooves just to see hoe ward the steel was, it's pretty mild...  :P

Where do you get those??
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Rick67 on February 03, 2022, 07:33:34 PM
I grabbed a bag as well and will throw them in the lathe to pretty them up and reshape them for my phalanges.  ::)

Just got them in today and shined up two of them in about 30 seconds, ran the tooling into one to kick a few grooves just to see hoe ward the steel was, it's pretty mild...  :P

Where do you get those??

Link is in REPLY #40.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Firewalker on February 03, 2022, 07:55:49 PM
I just flame-blued one, VERY pretty!!  :o
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on February 03, 2022, 08:08:14 PM
I just flame-blued one, VERY pretty!!  :o

Looks really good! Mine sat in Atlanta for 2 days and still haven't made it. Not like I've got time to do anything with them anyway. I need a break!
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Wayne52 on February 03, 2022, 08:11:10 PM
I grabbed a bag as well and will throw them in the lathe to pretty them up and reshape them for my phalanges.  ::)

Just got them in today and shined up two of them in about 30 seconds, ran the tooling into one to kick a few grooves just to see hoe ward the steel was, it's pretty mild...  :P



David do those already have 8-32 threads on them ?
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: K.O. on February 03, 2022, 08:24:35 PM
So using Crosman's numbering system, where a .177 cal would be a 367, this would be a 365?.... Nice close range smacker, especially with wadcutters....  8)

With a bit of tuning (eg. shortening the hammer spring) it could be made into a non-PAL (sub 500 fps) .25 cal pumper for Canada.... I did that with a 2289, and by retaining air it would never exceed 500 fps, no matter how many pumps....   ;)

Bob

I'll definitely be calling it my 365.


It is going to be a good close range smacker from the testing I've been doing with these wadcutters. Right around 500 fps seems ideal for them.


I want to add -17L to the tube following the C362 on mine... So by my logic youres would be a C362-25C   

S for short under 16"
C for carbine 16"- 22"
L for long  22"+ 

.. ;)
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Firewalker on February 03, 2022, 09:04:17 PM
I grabbed a bag as well and will throw them in the lathe to pretty them up and reshape them for my phalanges.  ::)

Just got them in today and shined up two of them in about 30 seconds, ran the tooling into one to kick a few grooves just to see hoe ward the steel was, it's pretty mild...  :P



David do those already have 8-32 threads on them ?

They thread in perfectly, don't know the thread size, sorry.

The flame blue really turned out nice, the picture does not do it justice.

Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on February 03, 2022, 09:25:07 PM
I grabbed a bag as well and will throw them in the lathe to pretty them up and reshape them for my phalanges.  ::)

Just got them in today and shined up two of them in about 30 seconds, ran the tooling into one to kick a few grooves just to see hoe ward the steel was, it's pretty mild...  :P



David do those already have 8-32 threads on them ?

They thread in perfectly, don't know the thread size, sorry.

The flame blue really turned out nice, the picture does not do it justice.

I've watched restomod daisy do fire bluing on YouTube and it looks nice too. Did you use a propane torch? I might try it on mine when they get here.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Firewalker on February 03, 2022, 09:51:17 PM
If there is any interest, I would be happy to turn the shank down to fit the breech slot, trim the threads down, shine it up and heat blue them for you. PM me if you are interested.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on February 03, 2022, 09:58:04 PM
If there is any interest, I would be happy to turn the shank down to fit the breech slot, trim the threads down, shine it up and heat blue them for you. PM me if you are interested.

I definitely appreciate the offer, but I have a buddy with a lathe that's going to do it for me. I'm going to try the fire bluing myself.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Firewalker on February 03, 2022, 10:44:39 PM
I grabbed a bag as well and will throw them in the lathe to pretty them up and reshape them for my phalanges.  ::)

Just got them in today and shined up two of them in about 30 seconds, ran the tooling into one to kick a few grooves just to see hoe ward the steel was, it's pretty mild...  :P



David do those already have 8-32 threads on them ?

They thread in perfectly, don't know the thread size, sorry.

The flame blue really turned out nice, the picture does not do it justice.

I've watched restomod daisy do fire bluing on YouTube and it looks nice too. Did you use a propane torch? I might try it on mine when they get here.
 

Yes, I went for a variety of colors from brown to blue to purple to a full black.

Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: K.O. on February 03, 2022, 11:21:35 PM
I grabbed a bag as well and will throw them in the lathe to pretty them up and reshape them for my phalanges.  ::)

Just got them in today and shined up two of them in about 30 seconds, ran the tooling into one to kick a few grooves just to see hoe ward the steel was, it's pretty mild...  :P



David do those already have 8-32 threads on them ?

They thread in perfectly, don't know the thread size, sorry.

The flame blue really turned out nice, the picture does not do it justice.
 

nice...

now I feel lazy... broke the bolt on my first Max becuse of a miscut chamber tryin to load a copper mag...
had some field points
just rounded the tip... Thinking now... really should make a nicer one... like I said nice flame work...

Max is now loudly whispering ; hey I am a flame throwing 50 fpe .22 ... I deserve a flame blued Bolt...get off your duff...

 8)
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Firewalker on February 03, 2022, 11:27:07 PM
Thanks, Kirby... Now, get off your duff. 😁😁
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Wayne52 on February 04, 2022, 03:41:50 AM
I just bought the last one of those blunt point tips on ebay,
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: avator on February 04, 2022, 07:20:43 AM
Dangit... I looked at them yesterday and didn't pull the trigger.
I'll just wait til they come back in stock. Mine are working good for now.

Wait... I just looked and it said more than 10 available. I ordered some. Feb 12 delivery date.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Wayne52 on February 04, 2022, 07:37:52 AM
They must have just gotten more in then or they weren't being straightforward about how many they really had probably to get someone like me to jump on them, well they're not really super expensive.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: avator on February 04, 2022, 07:49:33 AM
Yeah, $11 and change delivered.
And Lord knows I have plenty of the 'lego' guns to use them on.
I'll most likely chuck a few up in the drill and do some backyard grooves in them.  Maybe add some orings for grip.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Wayne52 on February 04, 2022, 12:09:34 PM
I've hot blued an entire Crosman 150 tube with a butane torch quenched in vegetable oil, it came out pretty nice but the ideal way to do it would be with an oxygen acetylene torch, you could control the color better with a big torch like that.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Spacebus on February 04, 2022, 03:45:11 PM
I grabbed a bag as well and will throw them in the lathe to pretty them up and reshape them for my phalanges.  ::)

Just got them in today and shined up two of them in about 30 seconds, ran the tooling into one to kick a few grooves just to see hoe ward the steel was, it's pretty mild...  :P



David do those already have 8-32 threads on them ?

They thread in perfectly, don't know the thread size, sorry.

The flame blue really turned out nice, the picture does not do it justice.

I've watched restomod daisy do fire bluing on YouTube and it looks nice too. Did you use a propane torch? I might try it on mine when they get here.
 

Yes, I went for a variety of colors from brown to blue to purple to a full black.

Those look great!
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Firewalker on February 04, 2022, 07:45:39 PM
Dangit... I looked at them yesterday and didn't pull the trigger.
I'll just wait til they come back in stock. Mine are working good for now.

Wait... I just looked and it said more than 10 available. I ordered some. Feb 12 delivery date.

I could send you one?  ???
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Firewalker on February 04, 2022, 07:46:06 PM
I grabbed a bag as well and will throw them in the lathe to pretty them up and reshape them for my phalanges.  ::)

Just got them in today and shined up two of them in about 30 seconds, ran the tooling into one to kick a few grooves just to see hoe ward the steel was, it's pretty mild...  :P



David do those already have 8-32 threads on them ?

They thread in perfectly, don't know the thread size, sorry.

The flame blue really turned out nice, the picture does not do it justice.

I've watched restomod daisy do fire bluing on YouTube and it looks nice too. Did you use a propane torch? I might try it on mine when they get here.
 

Yes, I went for a variety of colors from brown to blue to purple to a full black.

Those look great!

Want one?
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: avator on February 04, 2022, 07:48:17 PM
Dangit... I looked at them yesterday and didn't pull the trigger.
I'll just wait til they come back in stock. Mine are working good for now.

Wait... I just looked and it said more than 10 available. I ordered some. Feb 12 delivery date.

I could send you one?  ???
Thanks... I was able to order them.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on February 06, 2022, 06:36:08 PM
Well, I'm a happy camper today. This Alchemy barrel likes my 34 grain cast hunters. It's pushing them 485 fps for 17.76 fpe. I guess I'll hang onto the mold now because these pellets really thump at the ranges I'll be using them in this gun. I'm planning to do some casting tomorrow, so it will be in the rotation for sure.

This is 5 shots at 15 yards.

Edit: I'm wrong, this is my 27 grain mold, so it's only making a little over 14 fpe. It's still shooting them better than any of my other .25 guns do.


Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Wayne52 on February 07, 2022, 04:15:28 AM
That's one heck of a nice group you got there with the Hunters Eddie !!!
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on February 07, 2022, 11:54:30 AM
That's one heck of a nice group you got there with the Hunters Eddie !!!

Thanks Wayne, I'm really excited about it! I was about ready to give up on this mold too. It looks like this barrel runs a little tight so it's shooting them well.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on February 07, 2022, 06:01:28 PM
Banging some steel at 15 yards with the 27 grain Hunter pellets.

https://youtu.be/OsXyKhrPvU0
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Wayne52 on February 07, 2022, 09:17:19 PM
The Hunters are really smacking them hard with 10 pumps 8)
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on February 12, 2022, 04:50:32 PM
I had to move my workmate around to get out of the sun so this is 37 yards with the 27 grain Hunters.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Firewalker on February 12, 2022, 06:28:45 PM
I had to move my workmate around to get out of the sun so this is 37 yards with the 27 grain Hunters.

NICE!!
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on February 19, 2022, 05:42:46 PM
Well, it's finished for now at least. I might do something else to the trigger later but I'm going to shoot it like this for awhile. Since my original post I had a buddy turn a custom aluminum barrel band and I added a brass spacer behind the Buck-Rail suppressor to hide the exposed threads on the barrel. The barrel band is Gorilla glued to the old portion that remained after I dremeled the original off. It's holding up well so far and accuracy is great.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Wayne52 on February 19, 2022, 11:52:46 PM
Ed you turned that C362 into a great little hammer for sure !!!
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on February 20, 2022, 12:02:38 AM
Ed you turned that C362 into a great little hammer for sure !!!

Thanks Wayne! It's a fun rifle for sure. Can't wait to hunt with it. I was plinking my 40 yard spinners today. It's ready for the woods.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Back_Roads on February 20, 2022, 11:34:39 AM
 I am still tempted to put a .20 cal. LW barrel on one, just to see what it can do.  ;D
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: Firewalker on February 20, 2022, 02:46:04 PM
Fo Sho!
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on February 28, 2022, 11:24:20 AM
I'm a little bummed that this barrel doesn't like my cast wadcutters, but I picked up a tin of .25 Crow Magnums and they look promising. I powder coated them because that's what I do. I can't help myself.  :D


This is a 15 yard group but this is a close range gun. Only 3 shots because these things aren't cheap.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: mentolio on February 28, 2022, 11:43:11 AM
Back_roads: I would love to do that too! Know anyone who sets up .20 cal for drop-in? I am no machinist…
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on February 28, 2022, 11:46:36 AM
Back_roads: I would love to do that too! Know anyone who sets up .20 cal for drop-in? I am no machinist…



I suspect .20 would be a a lot easier to do than .25 was if you can find a barrel.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on February 28, 2022, 03:05:12 PM
I'm not sure if I should start a separate thread or not but I seem to have the only .25 362 right now so I'll keep it here. I discovered today that it's holding air at anything past 9 pumps. It's probably because of the heavier pellets but it's something to be aware of if you're shooting heavy pellets in a .22 as well.

Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: bender ville on February 28, 2022, 07:44:57 PM
that 25 cal is really awesome i wish i had those kinds of skills  or crossman would offer a 25 i know im dreaming .
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on February 28, 2022, 07:54:38 PM
that 25 cal is really awesome i wish i had those kinds of skills  or crossman would offer a 25 i know im dreaming .


If Alchemy still has the barrels or is willing to make more, it wouldn't be difficult to convert one. Mine was a little more difficult because I had the wrong breech and didn't want to spend the money on another one.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: TheOtherSprocket on March 20, 2022, 09:31:22 PM
Forgive the somewhat n00b questions:

Are there drop-in barrels in .25 for the 362 platform?  Sources?  What would the desired dimensions be?  7/16" O.D.?

What are the advantages of the .25 vs .22?

I haven't even gotten mine and plotting mods...I gotta quit this board or I'l be in trouble (at least I avoided that $200 PCP deal...thought about it though)
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on March 20, 2022, 09:41:27 PM
Forgive the somewhat n00b questions:

Are there drop-in barrels in .25 for the 362 platform?  Sources?  What would the desired dimensions be?  7/16" O.D.?

What are the advantages of the .25 vs .22?

I haven't even gotten mine and plotting mods...I gotta quit this board or I'l be in trouble (at least I avoided that $200 PCP deal...thought about it though)


There are no drop in barrels. I got mine from Alchemy Airwerks but I don't know if he has anymore. You will probably have to source a .25 barrel and have the breech portion turned down to 7/16.


I built mine because I've wanted a .25 pumper for years. It's not a powerhouse but it gets the job done and it blows my .22 362 away in the accuracy department.
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: TheOtherSprocket on March 21, 2022, 01:25:55 PM
If I read correctly, you didn't change the breech.  I'm guessing with a "big bore" breech and barrel, it can be done easily.

I'm reading up on things and found the 25 hits harder overall (larger mass will do that) but velocities are generally lower than the 22.  I'm going to leave mine alone for a while and put the 25 stuff in the back for a later date.  If those PCP's come back on the swinging deal I may go that way.  I have a 22LR for several reasons.

Thanks for the feedback - I appreciate it
Title: Re: Crosman C362 25 caliber
Post by: EdinGa on March 21, 2022, 01:32:23 PM
If I read correctly, you didn't change the breech.  I'm guessing with a "big bore" breech and barrel, it can be done easily.

I'm reading up on things and found the 25 hits harder overall (larger mass will do that) but velocities are generally lower than the 22.  I'm going to leave mine alone for a while and put the 25 stuff in the back for a later date.  If those PCP's come back on the swinging deal I may go that way.  I have a 22LR for several reasons.

Thanks for the feedback - I appreciate it


If you buy the big bore breech from Baker Airguns you might not have to turn the barrel down. The standard crosman breech is a 7/16 bore.