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Airguns by Make and Model => Vintage Air Gun Gate => Topic started by: brewbear on January 12, 2022, 09:38:13 PM
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Hello,
As the title implies, is an old Sheridan rifle without any markings worth $100. I only saw a few pictures and asked the seller. The reply was there are no markings on the compression tube or barrel. It is a .20/5 mm caliber and has a safety on the receiver top marked " HOLD DOWN TO SHOOT". The rifle is in fair condition.
Your input is greatly appreciated.
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A pic would help, but $100.00 isn't too bad by today's prices. Especially if it still shoots.
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Almost certainly yes.
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Yes unless it’s a complete dog with barrel separation.
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Barrel separation can be fixed. Stocks can be refinished. Actions can be rebuilt. For $100, why not???
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I am with Steve-P52,
I would buy it in a heartbeat. In early 2021 I bought this early 1950’s Blue Streak for $100. I still looking for a period stock but made this one work for now by eliminating the rocker safety notches. Overall I like how it turned outlooked like turned out and so did my youngest son he ended up with it as a 16th Birthday present last May.
Go for it before it’s gone, you won’t be disappointed.
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It’s a no-brainer, at least if you can afford the $100. I’ve spent more than that in worse ways. If you are spending money on it instead of buying baby some new shoes, then pass the deal on to someone else.
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Good advice given above . The only thing I would add is how bad is it ?? Does it have barrel separation, bluing gone, wood damaged, needs overhauling,, missing parts, etc., etc. , & you have to pay someone to repair it, && shipping back & forth, it can be costly !
If you decide not to get it, you can let us know . Many people need a parts gun.
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Hello,
As the title implies, is an old Sheridan rifle without any markings worth $100. I only saw a few pictures and asked the seller. The reply was there are no markings on the compression tube or barrel. It is a .20/5 mm caliber and has a safety on the receiver top marked " HOLD DOWN TO SHOOT". The rifle is in fair condition.
Your input is greatly appreciated.
Brewbear, if it’s really in “fair condition” I’d be all over this. It is a no brainer to own one of the nicest airguns out there. IMHO.
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Well, did you wind up getting it ?
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Not sure about the OP, but I bought it 9 times in my mind reading this far ;)
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LOL! Agreed... wishing I could find a "fair" hold down safety Silver for $100!!!
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Several years ago , I bought one described as in fair condition, but it needed a lot more work than I thought. I got it shooting , but it was so ugly,,, I named it " Ugly." I wound up breaking it down for parts.
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LOL! Agreed... wishing I could find a "fair" hold down safety Silver for $100!!!
Scott,
Here's one I found for $100 and they threw in a kitten.
Just kidding it was more than $100 and I got the cat separately. ;D
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LOL! You guys are funny! Well, it seems that others are interested in the rifle so several bids have been made in the last 24 hours. I will try to buy it and hope the price doesn't go much over $250 now. Funny thing is there didn't seem to be any interest in it until I asked the seller about the rifle's condition. After looking at several rifles on fleabay, I gotta tell you the fair condition may have to be down graded a peg or two. I will definitely let you know if I end up with it. The one posted above is in much better condition than the one I'm bidding on, at least the wood looks much better.
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I picked up this '79 Silver Streak for $75.00 from Craigslist.
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It may be me, or the whole Covid-19 situation, but things have gone off kilter everywhere. Things are selling at double, or even triple their prices. Not all that long ago a Crosman 150 was selling at just about $100 now... forget about it! I don't know what Sheridan Silver (or Blue) streak were selling for pre-Covid but these days $ 400 seems to be the norm for a very decently preserved one.
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That looks like a nice score!
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The prices on vintage pumpers have increased over the last several years, starting long before Covid. Don't forget that sometimes people run across very good deals, once in a while. If you are looking at e bay, you will see that sometimes the prices are very high due to a " bidding war," for the rifles. For a more realistic history of selling prices , from the listing of Sheridans on E Bay, look at the left column, & click on " Sold Listings." The next page will have prices in green, which is what that item actually sold for.
The average prices I have seen lately are; Blue Streaks = $250-$400 ; Silver = $300- $500 . These prices ARE for rifles that are working well , and in above average cosmetic conditions. A bargain comes along every now & then, but rarely on E Bay.
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The prices on vintage pumpers have increased over the last several years, starting long before Covid. Don't forget that sometimes people run across very good deals, once in a while. If you are looking at e bay, you will see that sometimes the prices are very high due to a " bidding war," for the rifles. For a more realistic history of selling prices , from the listing of Sheridans on E Bay, look at the left column, & click on " Sold Listings." The next page will have prices in green, which is what that item actually sold for.
The average prices I have seen lately are; Blue Streaks = $250-$400 ; Silver = $300- $500 . These prices ARE for rifles that are working well , and in above average cosmetic conditions. A bargain comes along every now & then, but rarely on E Bay.
I know what you mean, it is a hit and miss with condition and prices as well. I got interested in Crosman 150's in late November (2021) and bought my first one for $ 70.70 to my door. Adding in the Baker seal kit, it came to just under $110. The next two were $245 (Ted Williams) and $200 respectively. The latter two needed rebuilt kits and since the Baker kits are truly complete (TP seal is included) I prefer them even at the $ 38 price tag. I tried the TP seals from Captain O-ring and they seem much harder than the ones from Baker. I used one and CO2 went out like there was no seal. More than likely user error, but I'll stick with the Baker kits from now on.
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Some time back I picked up a hold down safety SS ("Sylvia") from a buddy just south of us.... ;)
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Some time back I picked up a hold down safety SS ("Sylvia") from a buddy just south of us.... ;)
You are fortunate, indeed.
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I can't remember what I paid for it but that guy from reply #18 might could tell ya.... I know I got a great deal on it.... ;)
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I can't remember what I paid for it but that guy from reply #18 might could tell ya.... I know I got a great deal on it.... ;)
LOL, Bill, Sir, you are too funny! If I don't get this one that started the thread, I'll keep an eye out on the classies here. Truth be told, I much rather buy from you gents than sellers on fleabay.
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I can't remember what I paid for it but that guy from reply #18 might could tell ya.... I know I got a great deal on it.... ;)
That's where my 2 Silvers and 1 of my Blues came from.
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he sure gets his hands on some good ones.
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Yes he does!
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he sure gets his hands on some good ones.
You guys are making me drool and laptops ain't cheap neither.
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Maybe this will help
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Maybe this will help
That is COLD!
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HAHAHAHA!
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I'll spare you.
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I'll spare you.
You are a kind soul, thank you.
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Nice stable of ‘Dans you have there Shawn. :D
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Maybe this will help
That is COLD!
I'm kinda onery that way. ::)
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Nice stable of ‘Dans you have there Shawn. :D
Thanks Dave. I likes 'em.
The lower Silver ('68) is two months my senior.
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I paid $75 shipped for my 1965 Crosman 140 about 2 years ago or so, maybe I just got a good deal or something but I can't imagine paying that little today.
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3 years running and I am still beating up my Buddy on his child-hood Silver.
He just won't let go!
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3 years running and I am still beating up my Buddy on his child-hood Silver.
He just won't let go!
Now that's well loved rifle right there, I wouldn't give it up either.
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I have my first one, a 1959 , & some others from the 50’s, 60’s, & 70’s that I may never part with !
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I have my first one, a 1959 , & some others from the 50’s, 60’s, & 70’s that I may never part with !
1959 would be my year of choice, not because I know anything about the rifles, but because it was a special year to me!
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Gunbroker a couple years back. I dropped a bid in, signed out and went to work. Got an email during work saying congrats, you're the winner.
My $170 bid won the '73 Silver Streak I figured I was going to get beat on...lol.
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How about this 1986 SS that just sold on ebay for $1,125!!! That's practically Model A money!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/185249468234?mkpid=0&emsid=e11010.m1951.l7534&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=9d8776a6c8b24bc792a3eb64924d241d&bu=43170328128&ut=RU&osub=-1%7E1&crd=20220116144910&segname=11010&sojTags=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cut%3Dut%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid&nma=true&si=ObWx%252FWH8QghlSSKaPzP%252FN6ed2qI%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/185249468234?mkpid=0&emsid=e11010.m1951.l7534&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=9d8776a6c8b24bc792a3eb64924d241d&bu=43170328128&ut=RU&osub=-1%7E1&crd=20220116144910&segname=11010&sojTags=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cut%3Dut%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid&nma=true&si=ObWx%252FWH8QghlSSKaPzP%252FN6ed2qI%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)
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Well, it was in "PERFECT CONDITION". ;)
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How about this 1986 SS that just sold on ebay for $1,125!!! That's practically Model A money!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/185249468234?mkpid=0&emsid=e11010.m1951.l7534&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=9d8776a6c8b24bc792a3eb64924d241d&bu=43170328128&ut=RU&osub=-1%7E1&crd=20220116144910&segname=11010&sojTags=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cut%3Dut%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid&nma=true&si=ObWx%252FWH8QghlSSKaPzP%252FN6ed2qI%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/185249468234?mkpid=0&emsid=e11010.m1951.l7534&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=9d8776a6c8b24bc792a3eb64924d241d&bu=43170328128&ut=RU&osub=-1%7E1&crd=20220116144910&segname=11010&sojTags=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cut%3Dut%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid&nma=true&si=ObWx%252FWH8QghlSSKaPzP%252FN6ed2qI%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)
Wow, I’ve been wondering if something like this was going to happen. 26 bids!
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As a novice, I am astounded those prices. I would be very reluctant to plonk that kind of cash based on pictures. At a show, hands on, with a much more knowledgeable person by my side, possibly. The problem id have is keeping it in the same condition. Every single rifle i own, I shoot!
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How about this 1986 SS that just sold on ebay for $1,125!!! That's practically Model A money!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/185249468234?mkpid=0&emsid=e11010.m1951.l7534&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=9d8776a6c8b24bc792a3eb64924d241d&bu=43170328128&ut=RU&osub=-1%7E1&crd=20220116144910&segname=11010&sojTags=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cut%3Dut%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid&nma=true&si=ObWx%252FWH8QghlSSKaPzP%252FN6ed2qI%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/185249468234?mkpid=0&emsid=e11010.m1951.l7534&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=9d8776a6c8b24bc792a3eb64924d241d&bu=43170328128&ut=RU&osub=-1%7E1&crd=20220116144910&segname=11010&sojTags=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cut%3Dut%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid&nma=true&si=ObWx%252FWH8QghlSSKaPzP%252FN6ed2qI%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)
If you look at the bids, the winner only has 1 rating, so I don't know if it was a real purchase or just a troll. There was another SS that sold for 7 or 800 yesterday with the same bid situation. I'll be interested to see if those items get relisted for non-payment.
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It would take at least two people bidding to get it that high though, wouldn't it?
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There was, several as a matter of fact.
Opening price was only $150. :o
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Blue streaks and Silver Streaks are nice but they are not $1000 nice. I must be a cheap (&#^((&^* because I will never pay that for one ;)
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An update:
I won the bidding on the Sheridan, payed probably too much, $350 but... it has the funky top safety so it is probably pretty old, more than likely not a silver streak. The three reasons I wanted it: 1) it is my first one, 2) it has Williams rear peep sight, 3) it received the Mac1 steroid treatment.
I also won a Benjamin 342 and I bought it for the same reasons, this one was $178.
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Combined well worth it if they shoot even better. Not like some of them crazy prices sometimes.
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An update:
I won the bidding on the Sheridan, payed probably too much, $350 but... it has the funky top safety so it is probably pretty old, more than likely not a silver streak. The three reasons I wanted it: 1) it is my first one, 2) it has Williams rear peep sight, 3) it received the Mac1 steroid treatment.
I also won a Benjamin 342 and I bought it for the same reasons, this one was $178.
That sounds much better. I have often thought of getting one of the steroid streaks, I just have not done it yet
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... it has the funky top safety so it is probably pretty old, more than likely not a silver streak.
What do you mean? ???
They made Silver Streaks with the older hold-down safety.
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Was this the one on Gunbroker ? If so,,, it looked to have been made about 1959.
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Was this the one on Gunbroker ? If so,,, it looked to have been made about 1959.
Yes,Sir, it was on Gunbroker. If it was that old, it would be great but my purchase was based on the Williams sight and Mac1 steroid treatment... well, that and pure instinctual dumb luck.
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It looks to be a 59-62 ?? So, it may be what you wanted. Congratulations.
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... it has the funky top safety so it is probably pretty old, more than likely not a silver streak.
What do you mean? ???
They made Silver Streaks with the older hold-down safety.
Scott, sir, you'd know better than me. This is how it went: saw the rifle on Gunbroker, look around the interweb for something that looked similar. See a silver streak with the push down safety and assume the one on Gunbroker is a silver streak. Ask seller if there are any markings, he replied no markings. Come on here and ask you folks. Go ahead and bid, keep bidding until I get it. Pay the man, now wait for the toys to be shipped. I say toys because the same seller had a Benjamin 342 (at least I think it's a 342) with Williams sights and Mac1 steroid treatment. We will know better in a week or so.
BTW, any of you gents interested in casting your own .20 cal pellets? It would be great to have a .20 cal mould made.
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It looks to be a 59-62 ?? So, it may be what you wanted. Congratulations.
Thank you, I should have the rifle in a week or so. I will keep you guys posted. Now the waiting starts.
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Gotchya...
Congrats!!!
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Gotchya...
Congrats!!!
Thank you. In my communications with the seller I asked if he would prefer to invoice for both rifles or get payed separately. He opted to invoice for both and then he said he'll include some pellets. Now I have to look for .20 cal pellets and would appreciate some recommendations.
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JSB 13.73g & 15.89g. H&N 11.42g. That's pretty much the only .20 pellets available these days, if they're in stock. I prefer the JSBs.
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JSB 13.73g & 15.89g. H&N 11.42g. That's pretty much the only .20 pellets available these days, if they're in stock. I prefer the JSBs.
Awesome, thank you.
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The H&N Baracuda 13.7 are excellent, too.
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The H&N Baracuda 13.7 are excellent, too.
Spent last evening looking for pellets. They're about as easy to find as hen's teeth. I will start a thread in the NOE forum to possibly get a 20 caliber mould made. If you gents are interested, head on there and join the list. There is a list for the 22 caliber wadcutter, join that thread/list for it if you want to cast your own pellets. This is the thread for the 22 caliber wadcutter in the NOE forum https://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php?topic=3152.msg25675;topicseen#new
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The H&N Baracuda 13.7 are excellent, too.
Spent last evening looking for pellets. They're about as easy to find as hen's teeth. I will start a thread in the NOE forum to possibly get a 20 caliber mould made. If you gents are interested, head on there and join the list. There is a list for the 22 caliber wadcutter, join that thread/list for it if you want to cast your own pellets. This is the thread for the 22 caliber wadcutter in the NOE forum https://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php?topic=3152.msg25675;topicseen#new
Did yo start a post on a .20 mold ? I can not seem to find one. Maybe we need Bob to draw one up ???
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The H&N Baracuda 13.7 are excellent, too.
Spent last evening looking for pellets. They're about as easy to find as hen's teeth. I will start a thread in the NOE forum to possibly get a 20 caliber mould made. If you gents are interested, head on there and join the list. There is a list for the 22 caliber wadcutter, join that thread/list for it if you want to cast your own pellets. This is the thread for the 22 caliber wadcutter in the NOE forum https://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php?topic=3152.msg25675;topicseen#new
Did yo start a post on a .20 mold ? I can not seem to find one. Maybe we need Bob to draw one up ???
Sorry, I got caught up in a couple of other things, I believe having Bob start a thread would be great. I only joined the NOE forum yesterday and barely find my way around.
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The H&N Baracuda 13.7 are excellent, too.
Spent last evening looking for pellets. They're about as easy to find as hen's teeth. I will start a thread in the NOE forum to possibly get a 20 caliber mould made. If you gents are interested, head on there and join the list. There is a list for the 22 caliber wadcutter, join that thread/list for it if you want to cast your own pellets. This is the thread for the 22 caliber wadcutter in the NOE forum https://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php?topic=3152.msg25675;topicseen#new
Did yo start a post on a .20 mold ? I can not seem to find one. Maybe we need Bob to draw one up ???
Sorry, I got caught up in a couple of other things, I believe having Bob start a thread would be great. I only joined the NOE forum yesterday and barely find my way around.
I'm not awake yet, I meant that Bob could draw up the ultimate design for a .20.
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Did yo start a post on a .20 mold ? I can not seem to find one. Maybe we need Bob to draw one up ???
Sorry, I got caught up in a couple of other things, I believe having Bob start a thread would be great. I only joined the NOE forum yesterday and barely find my way around.
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I'm not awake yet, I meant that Bob could draw up the ultimate design for a .20.
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I seem to exhibit a noticeable lack of coffee in my system too. Personally, I couldn't draw a straight line with a ruler so, yes, Bob would be the best person to ask. Thank you.
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You can try Utah Airguns, they may still have JSB 13.73gr pellets in stock:
https://utahairguns.com/jsb-exact-20-500-pcs-13-73-gr/
Likely hard to find since, while a guess on my part, makers are focusing on getting the more popular .177 and .22 pellets to retailers.
What's still made?
-JSB Exact Diabolo 13.73gr
-JSB Exact Heavy 15.89gr
-H&N FTT 11.42gr
-H&N Baracuda 13.58gr
-Predator Polymag 13gr
-Benjamin Cylindrical 14.3gr
AoA used to have and still lists some Daystate labeled .20 cal pellets but they're just rebranded JSB and H&N. They also list H&N Spitzkugel 10.96gr pointed pellets
but I'm not sure if H&N even makes them anymore.
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5 tins of JSB Exact Diabolo coming my way. Thank you gents
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The H&N Baracuda 13.7 are excellent, too.
Spent last evening looking for pellets. They're about as easy to find as hen's teeth. I will start a thread in the NOE forum to possibly get a 20 caliber mould made. If you gents are interested, head on there and join the list. There is a list for the 22 caliber wadcutter, join that thread/list for it if you want to cast your own pellets. This is the thread for the 22 caliber wadcutter in the NOE forum https://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php?topic=3152.msg25675;topicseen#new
Did yo start a post on a .20 mold ? I can not seem to find one. Maybe we need Bob to draw one up ???
Brew, glad they still had some for you to get hands on.
Random lame thoughts but anyhow...
-First you'd need a consensus on the type of pellet .20 cal shooters would like to have again since I see any number who'd love to have a .20 cal wadcutter.
-Then you'd need some kind of consensus on what kind of weight you'd want them to be.
-Good starting point for those 2 would be to find someone who may still have some to get dimensions on...maybe ask DonC since he was compiling a list.
-Get all that in hand then try chatting with the mold makers to see who might consider trying.
-Through all of it, be ready for those who think anything new made should be slugs because they want them for PCP's and could care less about springer or pumper shooters...lol.
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The H&N Baracuda 13.7 are excellent, too.
Spent last evening looking for pellets. They're about as easy to find as hen's teeth. I will start a thread in the NOE forum to possibly get a 20 caliber mould made. If you gents are interested, head on there and join the list. There is a list for the 22 caliber wadcutter, join that thread/list for it if you want to cast your own pellets. This is the thread for the 22 caliber wadcutter in the NOE forum https://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php?topic=3152.msg25675;topicseen#new
Did yo start a post on a .20 mold ? I can not seem to find one. Maybe we need Bob to draw one up ???
Brew, glad they still had some for you to get hands on.
Random lame thoughts but anyhow...
-First you'd need a consensus on the type of pellet .20 cal shooters would like to have again since I see any number who'd love to have a .20 cal wadcutter.
-Then you'd need some kind of consensus on what kind of weight you'd want them to be.
-Good starting point for those 2 would be to find someone who may still have some to get dimensions on...maybe ask DonC since he was compiling a list.
-Get all that in hand then try chatting with the mold makers to see who might consider trying.
-Through all of it, be ready for those who think anything new made should be slugs because they want them for PCP's and could care less about springer or pumper shooters...lol.
Wise words, thank you. Slugs would be way down on my priorities list, a step or two above sick and dead! I just have the one Sheridan (yet to be shipped) and I figured I might as well cast pellets for it since I cast for my .22
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The H&N Baracuda 13.7 are excellent, too.
Spent last evening looking for pellets. They're about as easy to find as hen's teeth. I will start a thread in the NOE forum to possibly get a 20 caliber mould made. If you gents are interested, head on there and join the list. There is a list for the 22 caliber wadcutter, join that thread/list for it if you want to cast your own pellets. This is the thread for the 22 caliber wadcutter in the NOE forum https://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php?topic=3152.msg25675;topicseen#new
Did yo start a post on a .20 mold ? I can not seem to find one. Maybe we need Bob to draw one up ???
Brew, glad they still had some for you to get hands on.
Random lame thoughts but anyhow...
-First you'd need a consensus on the type of pellet .20 cal shooters would like to have again since I see any number who'd love to have a .20 cal wadcutter.
-Then you'd need some kind of consensus on what kind of weight you'd want them to be.
-Good starting point for those 2 would be to find someone who may still have some to get dimensions on...maybe ask DonC since he was compiling a list.
-Get all that in hand then try chatting with the mold makers to see who might consider trying.
-Through all of it, be ready for those who think anything new made should be slugs because they want them for PCP's and could care less about springer or pumper shooters...lol.
Wise words, thank you. Slugs would be way down on my priorities list, a step or two above sick and dead! I just have the one Sheridan (yet to be shipped) and I figured I might as well cast pellets for it since I cast for my .22
Motorhead did make a swage to reduce .22 pellets down to .20, seemed he had good results, have to dig up his thread on that, to see his device again .
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Motorhead did make a swage to reduce .22 pellets down to .20, seemed he had good results, have to dig up his thread on that, to see his device again .
That would be great, and if I could convince him to make another set that I could buy, that would be stellar!
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Good memory!
Here's the link - https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=119451 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=119451)
Apparently Corbin makes kits for it. I'll have to look further into that. http://www.corbins.com/pellets.htm (http://www.corbins.com/pellets.htm)
I've been considering swaging my own pellets for a while.
Ride on,
J~
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Good memory!
Here's the link - https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=119451 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=119451)
Apparently Corbin makes kits for it. I'll have to look further into that. http://www.corbins.com/pellets.htm (http://www.corbins.com/pellets.htm)
I've been considering swaging my own pellets for a while.
Ride on,
J~
Corbin gets to be on the expensive side, Nomad is priced much more reasonable but he isn't taking orders right now.