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Airguns by Make and Model => Crosman Airguns => Topic started by: erdnuss on January 06, 2022, 03:11:09 AM
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Hi guys, I got a chance to do some shooting with my new 362. So far the groups I am getting are ok but not great. The one in the picture was 10 shots at 10 yards, shot seated on the floor with my elbows supported on a cooler, so it was pretty stable but not quite rested. The bullseye is a bit over 3 inches across so the group (minus the flier) is a bit over 0.5". I was doing just 3 pumps. The bad flier there was at least partially from me pulling it on that one. I am looking forward to a good day when I can shoot outside, where I can go up to 25 yards. I also want to try out some other pellet types --- this was with the good old 14.3 gr CPHPs.
Some info on my setup: I put on the Crosman steel breech, a UTG 3-9x32mm bug buster, and a 6.5" TKO silencer. I had done the steel breech install before and there were some small differences. Unlike the 13xx, this one has a front barrel band with a set screw in it that you have to loosen, with the same tiny hex wrench as that little screw in the loading port. Also, for some reason the transfer port got stuck in the barrel when I initially disassembled it and I had to gently pull it out with some pliers. I made a mistake at first in using the original sight screw when putting it back together, but it is too long and wouldn't let the gun be cocked --- probably the other guns on the platform are like this too though.
I am still trying to figure out the ergonomics of the gun. I do feel more comfortable with the pistol grip-type setup of the 13xx so far. With the angled rifle grip and shorter length of pull, I am having trouble finding a repeatable way to hold the rifle steady that doesn't make my wrist hurt. This is probably mostly from my lack of experience. The stock does feel nice and sturdy, for being plastic. My one problem with the plastic composition is that pumping it makes a kind of annoying clack-clack-clack sound, which is louder than shooting the thing with this silencer mounted. Maybe there is a way to add some thin padding and lessen this.
The trigger is a bit heavy and the travel is long --- I think this is holding my accuracy back a bit too. I want to do the same mod that I had done on my 1377 to lighten the trigger by just compressing the spring, but I am not currently sure how to access the trigger group on this gun and I didn't have the time or boldness to just trying digging in to try to find it yet. I would someday replace the actual trigger with a metal one if there are parts for that too.
See the attached picture of my 362 with my 1377 for comparison. It is kind of interesting how different they feel to handle and operate, despite the shared parts. The pump effort is fairly easy but it feels different since the handle is so long, and the 362 is much longer and heavier It just makes the 362 feel more serious while the 1377 just screams 'fun plinker', especially with the red dot I have on there now.
Overall I do like the gun. I don't think I'll change anything else other than the trigger and the pump arm, and I hope to see the accuracy improve as I get more used to it, and maybe try some more pellets.
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thank you for sharing the group pic and your thoughts! ;D
the barrel will go through a short break in period, and you should see some improvement in the groups as it does. I always do a clean and lube on new barrels before I put any pellets through them, but that is just me. for 10 yards, it is not a bad group and all the shots in the group are either hole in hole, or hole to hole. one flyer out of ten... very good actually and as you say, most likely not accuracy related.
I am leery of this plastic trigger, so thanks for your thoughts on that as well. overall though, it sounds like it was not too big of an issue for you and the grouping didnt seem affected by it by much, if any at all.
with the clacking noise, Tack Driver 10 turned us on to these...
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=189740.msg156190043#msg156190043 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=189740.msg156190043#msg156190043)
... they definitely help quiet the clacking down. I actually use 4 instead of one. if the 362 pump arm has the gap like the 13xx's... these would be well worth trying.
looking forward to some 25 yard groups! ;)
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Just wondering if the 362 would be a candidate for the multi shot magazine that 3D printers have created?
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Just wondering if the 362 would be a candidate for the multi shot magazine that 3D printers have created?
That will depend on the bolt probe, if it has the long probe it will have issues feeding, but still usable but have to fidget the pellet into position, but handier than single loading IMO.
IIR they may offer the grav-mag for plastic breaches now also that may just work on the basic gun as it comes out of the box.
Just looked they do make a plastic breach version, the add is confusing but read the description, they refer to the Poly Rail as not compatible with the 13xx guns but the mag is.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265417568203? (https://www.ebay.com/itm/265417568203?)
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Cannot wait to see how the Crosman 362 evolves with all the aftermarket stuff. Steel breech and TKO to start with for me. Then something on the trigger, but first, clean the barrel and shoot some pellets!!!
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I wouldn't mind having one but, by the time I invested to make it into what I wanted....
1) I would have more invested than I could get back just like all the other 'lego' guns I own.
2) I would have so much invested that I could have bought a much better gun for the same price.
The only thing that I have found about the 'lego' guns. It's as much fun to tinker and make them my own as it is to shoot them. The problem there is, I already got a half dozen or so already maxed out.
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I can understand that, avator. I was thinking a bit whether to get this gun or to get one of the several entry-level PCPs (Gamo Urban, Benjamin Fortitude, etc). Ultimately I liked the self-contained nature of the 362, and the sufficient power for my needs with not too much pumping. I do think it doesn't really make sense to spend a lot of time/money upgrading internals on these guns and doing crazy amounts of pumps, when you could just get a more effective PCP for cheaper.
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+1 Chris
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All true but, like many of us, I like my pumpers. Many of us cut our teeth on the in our youth.
I like the self contained, controlled power with added strokes of the pump arm and simplicity.
Being a Crosman and a popular platform, parts are just a credit card number away to fix virtually anything.
I recently bought a pair of 392s, albeit I got a smokin' deal... ;) , and if it weren't for the high comb issue, I would never want for anything else in the newer offerings. I was able to get around that with an addon rail and scope.
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Here is mine from yesterday. It was 27 degrees out with a mild wind... it was cold! 4 pumps on each group shooting rested at 21 yards...
(https://i.imgur.com/ssCFEwR.jpg)
This morning I put a pellet of the Super Points, the H&N 5.53, and an H&N 5.55 into some towels with 2 pumps to check barrel engagement. Here is what I got...
(https://i.imgur.com/0pHlBra.jpg)
The Super Points had very little skirt engagement with only a couple little light marks on the nose diameter. The H&N 5.53 was more engaged in both areas but the H&N 5.55 pellet had the best engagement, very good actually.
After seeing this, I was surprised at how well the Super Points did on the top left group and the middle right, but down on the bottom right where they were all flyers... not so much. Looks like the H&N 5.55's are up next time I shoot.
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I am still getting pellets through the barrel for break-in, I did hit some targets today but that was more about evaluating pellets and getting the AWFUL sights dialed in after tearing the gun apart.
I was delighted to see that I was hitting bullseyes every once in a while and the fliers are diminishing as well. The trigger mod worked very well and the target shows the improvement.
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I am still trying to figure out the ergonomics of the gun. I do feel more comfortable with the pistol grip-type setup of the 13xx so far. With the angled rifle grip and shorter length of pull, I am having trouble finding a repeatable way to hold the rifle steady that doesn't make my wrist hurt. This is probably mostly from my lack of experience. The stock does feel nice and sturdy, for being plastic. My one problem with the plastic composition is that pumping it makes a kind of annoying clack-clack-clack sound, which is louder than shooting the thing with this silencer mounted. Maybe there is a way to add some thin padding and lessen this.
Have you found a solution to quiet the clack yet ?
I recently received my 362, and like you I dislike the annoying clack-clack-clack sound from the plastic pump handle.
To act as a cushion, I placed the loop portion of velcro tape where the pump arm comes to rest
near the trigger guard.
I also put velcro over the the magnet, the magnet is still attracted to the metal plate
but at least the magnet doesn't clack against the metal plate.
It still didn't help much, if any. There's still way too much clack on other areas of the pump handle.
(https://i.imgur.com/Y4jeIoq.png?1)
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i am not trying to tell any one how to take care of thier air guns we all have are own way but just to let you know both of my 362s the barrels were factory filthy and i cleaned before i shot so cant make a comparison to not cleaning from brand new but both mine were very accurate from the first pellet to now 1000 rds later
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with the clacking noise, Tack Driver 10 turned us on to these...
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=189740.msg156190043#msg156190043 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=189740.msg156190043#msg156190043)
... they definitely help quiet the clacking down. I actually use 4 instead of one. if the 362 pump arm has the gap like the 13xx's... these would be well worth trying.
+1 on these. Mine arrived today. I've got 3 in the pump arm so far.
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I spent the afternoon with my #1 362 and a whole bunch of different pellets. It shoots everything great at 10 yards and 3 pumps. Go up to 8 pumps and stretch it to 25 yards and it's all over the place. My #2 that's converted to .25 is still shooting great at 9 pumps.
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Have you found a solution to quiet the clack yet ?
I tried the little glass table bumpers and the ones I got didn't work well for me. I think they were the wrong kind of material though, they were black and more of a denser rubber rather than a softer silicone like what I think others had tried. Then later I got some neoprene rubber washers from home depot --- I think maybe it was this one: https://www.homedepot.com/p/1-4-in-x-1-1-4-in-Black-Neoprene-Washer-815788/204276441 (https://www.homedepot.com/p/1-4-in-x-1-1-4-in-Black-Neoprene-Washer-815788/204276441) --- and that worked better. I installed them so one of the pump handle mounting screws goes through the hole in the washer, and I trimmed them to size so that the kind of push the handle apart a bit when the gun is unpressurized, but then when it's pumped up the extra cam-over force keeps it in place. It's not utterly silent but with a little care in pumping it's a lot better. It took two washers btw, that was a perfect fit for the width of the little channel.
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clack-clickity= ear plugs….good luck
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I had recently been getting disappointing accuracy with my 362 with CPHPs --- maybe about 5/8" at 10 yards at the best but with lots of fliers, and even inconsistent point of aim across different groups, while previously I had been getting tight groups smaller than that. I was struggling to hit wine corks at 20 yards while previously I was getting them about 3/4 of the time at that range.
I thought there were maybe two causes for this: I had installed the flow-through bolt from Mellon Air, and this tin of pellets slid off my shooting table and all dumped out onto gravel and dirt (took *forever* to clean those up :'(), and some of them were possibly a bit damaged from that (not visibly though). I tried last night shooting some different pellets I had -- RWS superdomes, which I didn't get great results with initially -- and these shot fantastic, ragged hole groups right at the point of aim, tighter than I had ever gotten from the Crosman ones. I noticed that these fit more tightly in the bore compared to the Crosman pellets, which were surprisingly loose in this gun.
I do have an unopened tin of the CPHPs to try out to confirm if those pellets were damaged or not, but in any case the RWS pellets were a lot better. I still also wonder if the new bolt changed anything too.
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I pulled my barrel off today and gave it a good looking over. I found burr in the barrel port which explains why my TP gets stuck in it when installed. Found rolled over burr in the crown, and what looks like a little smushed burr in the lead. I considered reworking the barrel, and I may anyway later on, but it definitely has tolerance issues from what I have seen testing various pellets and the loose way they engage the rifling.
I have decided to convert to .177. There are a couple of decent options out there that are plug and play, one a bit more expensive than the other. The 24" Disco barrel (Crosman made) mentioned here in the forum which seems to have a very good reputation and very affordable at $27.35 shipped, and the Challenger barrel which Ron pointed me to which is a choked LW barrel and measures 21 and 5/8" at $143.60 shipped, both from Crosman. I ordered one of each but given the choice where LW is available... LW wins. I will use the Disco barrel for another project.
This isn't for everyone. The LW is an expensive barrel, and probably too expensive for this gun when for the money, other better gun options are out there, and I do realize this. I love the design and feel of the 362, so I am going to give the LW barrel a try. I have some JSB dome heavies in .177 that might do very nicely with this barrel. I run them in my 2400KT and they do very well in that gun.
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You guys that are having accuracy problems?
Consider:
HAM admits the C362 is capable of 14.6 fpe with Crosman 19gr domes.
At 20 yards: your fpe should be higher than 12.5 fpe; which is plenty of fpe to take a brain shot on a coon or a possum. And, lets face it ... we should all probably stick to that distance for large varmints anyway.
And, start keeping our 362's behind the back door for things that go bump in the night. ;)
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I got an opportunity to shoot outside the other day and continued to get some great results with the superdomes. At 20 yards, I got about a half-inch group off a sandbag, and it only took me 10 shots to hit 9 wine corks, which is really fantastic for me. With that performance I can say I'm totally satisfied with the rifle. I don't hunt, but if I get some rats in my backyard again they had better watch out :)
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I get amaziiiing accuracy with both my guns at 25yds... 5 pumps... H&N Match 10.65. Both guns are .177 converted... 1 at 18" barrel and the other at 21". The 21" has a TKO and is considered my "long silent gun". The 18" is my loud and proud, up close and personal gun.
I would not hesitate a shot at small game/pest with either.
This was exactly my goal for these guns when purchased. I have 15 tins of these pellets in stock. I have no reason, at this point for testing or shooting any other.
Sorry, not sorry..... 8)
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I get amaziiiing accuracy with both my guns at 25yds... 5 pumps...
My accuracy is not amazing(me,not the guns)…but acceptable….its nice to have the extra 3 pumps if needed…but mine are 5 pump guns…lol…my 392S is a 4 pumper….good luck
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Bought 2 of the 392s. Sold one and the other is for sale.
They served the purpose.. until the 362 came on the scene.... ;)
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Bought 2 of the 392s. Sold one and the other is for sale.
They served the purpose.. until the 362 came on the scene.... ;)
Understood….I have a bad habit/tendency to hang on to stuff…I guess thats why I have a “Gun Cave”….nobody in the family cares …so I gave my brother this website and told him to offer them up when Im gone..lol
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Mine has about the same accuracy at 25 yards as my Benji 392 does; one difference is the Benji takes 6 pumps to do what the 362 does at 5 pumps. Depends on the pellet of course. I like how it does great with cheap cphp.
I took off the 3-9X40AO Optima and am playing with a Winchester 4XAO on it at present. I've got a 2-7X32AO I'll likely put on it soon.
Has anyone tried the 19 gr Crosman domes in these?
25 yard groups of those is what I'd like to see.
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I get amaziiiing accuracy with both my guns at 25yds... 5 pumps... H&N Match 10.65. Both guns are .177 converted... 1 at 18" barrel and the other at 21". The 21" has a TKO and is considered my "long silent gun". The 18" is my loud and proud, up close and personal gun.
I would not hesitate a shot at small game/pest with either.
Is that 21 inch barrel of yours the Disco barrel?
I've got some pigeons at 70 yards that need to be taken care of. 8)
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It is the Disco SE 24" barrel cut and crowned at 21".
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Mine has about the same accuracy at 25 yards as my Benji 392 does; one difference is the Benji takes 6 pumps to do what the 362 does at 5 pumps. Depends on the pellet of course. I like how it does great with cheap cphp.
I have had some good power and accuracy from my modified 392 guns. If my new 362 is the same accuracy that would be great.
My Benjamin at 4 pumps is the same as the 362 at 8.
The 362 will not have the same power potential but I hope to get some more out of it.
People can compare to the 392 but in modified form, they are extremely powerful. I had 860 fps the other day @ 8 pumps with the 14.3 crosman pellets.
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It is the Disco SE 24" barrel cut and crowned at 21".
Thanks Bill. I may just go that route with a 2nd 362.
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Mine has about the same accuracy at 25 yards as my Benji 392 does; one difference is the Benji takes 6 pumps to do what the 362 does at 5 pumps. Depends on the pellet of course. I like how it does great with cheap cphp.
I have had some good power and accuracy from my modified 392 guns. If my new 362 is the same accuracy that would be great.
My Benjamin at 4 pumps is the same as the 362 at 8.
The 362 will not have the same power potential but I hope to get some more out of it.
People can compare to the 392 but in modified form, they are extremely powerful. I had 860 fps the other day @ 8 pumps with the 14.3 crosman pellets.
Depending on the pellet, I'm varying between 0.75 and 1.0 groups. That's with Crosman 14.3 and AA 16.
My 392 can shoot .30 groups at 20 yards with a red dot and AA 16's; but, I keep it peep sighted. More fun that way. Less to go wrong on a camping trip.
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Mine has about the same accuracy at 25 yards as my Benji 392 does; one difference is the Benji takes 6 pumps to do what the 362 does at 5 pumps. Depends on the pellet of course. I like how it does great with cheap cphp.
I have had some good power and accuracy from my modified 392 guns. If my new 362 is the same accuracy that would be great.
My Benjamin at 4 pumps is the same as the 362 at 8.
The 362 will not have the same power potential but I hope to get some more out of it.
People can compare to the 392 but in modified form, they are extremely powerful. I had 860 fps the other day @ 8 pumps with the 14.3 crosman pellets.
Depending on the pellet, I'm varying between 0.75 and 1.0 groups. That's with Crosman 14.3 and AA 16.
My 392 can shoot .30 groups at 20 yards with a red dot and AA 16's; but, I keep it peep sighted. More fun that way. Less to go wrong on a camping trip.
I took my new 362 apart to study it. Didn’t even check the accuracy. I trust it. The barrel looks nice to me as do the pellets l pushed through it.
I am going to take my time building it . I have a 1322 l could pirate parts but don’t want to scavenge it.
I really like what I see so far in the 362 design. The pump is much stronger than I expected.
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I took my new 362 apart to study it. Didn’t even check the accuracy. I trust it. The barrel looks nice to me as do the pellets l pushed through it.
I am going to take my time building it . I have a 1322 l could pirate parts but don’t want to scavenge it.
I really like what I see so far in the 362 design. The pump is much stronger than I expected.
My .22 lego has a better scope on it than the one I have mounted on my 362. It's staying on the lego. I'm not scavenging mine either. My 362 is ready to nail a coon or any other large varmint; but, my .22 and .177 legos are my killin guns.
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Both of mine shoot well..177..22…back in the rack and Ive already moved on…good luck
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It is the Disco SE 24" barrel cut and crowned at 21".
Would that be part # 2260SE-001 or would that be part # 1760SE-001?
https://www.alliancehobby.com/discobbl.htm (https://www.alliancehobby.com/discobbl.htm)
Hopefully I can find a better price than what AH wants.
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It is the Disco SE 24" barrel cut and crowned at 21".
Would that be part # 2260SE-001 or would that be part # 1760SE-001?
https://www.alliancehobby.com/discobbl.htm (https://www.alliancehobby.com/discobbl.htm)
Hopefully I can find a better price than what AH wants.
check with crosman…I got mine for $23.75 before shipping….Have u read the thread on AH….good luck
1760SE-001. (Courtesy of avator)
I never bothered to have mine cut and crowned…but a local gunsmith said he could/would..
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Keepingitsimple: please read the thread on Alliance Hobby on this sight. I am still awaiting the conclusion of my fraud claim to my CC company regarding AH. They’re not what they used to be (meaning they seem to no longer be a legit business).
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It is the Disco SE 24" barrel cut and crowned at 21".
Would that be part # 2260SE-001 or would that be part # 1760SE-001?
https://www.alliancehobby.com/discobbl.htm (https://www.alliancehobby.com/discobbl.htm)
Hopefully I can find a better price than what AH wants.
check with crosman…I got mine for $23.75 before shipping….Have u read the thread on AH….good luck
1760SE-001. (Courtesy of avator)
I never bothered to have mine cut and crowned…but a local gunsmith said he could/would..
That's the info I wanted. Thanks Phil. I'll be using a local gunsmith too.
In fact ... THAT is something I should have been doing all along.
I'm having tummy trouble at the moment. Have had for a few months now.
Infighting amongst health insurance providers has stalled treatment for that.
Makes it difficult to do any kind of work where I'm sitting in a hunched over position.
Would've been a lot better to have a gunsmith on retainer instead. ;)
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Keepingitsimple: please read the thread on Alliance Hobby on this sight. I am still awaiting the conclusion of my fraud claim to my CC company regarding AH. They’re not what they used to be (meaning they seem to no longer be a legit business).
I wasn't even planning to. I used AH as a starting point for the barrel I'm looking for. I needed part numbers and better prices. Phil provided that. Thanks again, Phil.
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Keepingitsimple: please read the thread on Alliance Hobby on this sight. I am still awaiting the conclusion of my fraud claim to my CC company regarding AH. They’re not what they used to be (meaning they seem to no longer be a legit business).
I wasn't even planning to. I used AH as a starting point for the barrel I'm looking for. I needed part numbers and better prices. Phil provided that. Thanks again, Phil.
Just paying it forward…avator bailed me out…as for stomach trouble…..been fighting gasritis since last October..brought on all sorts of things including a hernia which required surgery….good luck
Crosman recommended UPS as barrels were getting returned due to damaged….via usps…..I had several items in shipment …sorry I dont remember total cost….
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Keepingitsimple: please read the thread on Alliance Hobby on this sight. I am still awaiting the conclusion of my fraud claim to my CC company regarding AH. They’re not what they used to be (meaning they seem to no longer be a legit business).
I wasn't even planning to. I used AH as a starting point for the barrel I'm looking for. I needed part numbers and better prices. Phil provided that. Thanks again, Phil.
Just paying it forward…avator bailed me out…as for stomach trouble…..been fighting gasritis since last October..brought on all sorts of things including a hernia which required surgery….good luck
Crosman recommended UPS as barrels were getting returned due to damaged….via usps…..I had several items in shipment …sorry I dont remember total cost….
Last October: perhaps early November was when my gasteritis started too.
I was definitely feeling it by Thanksgiving.
One of the things I do great is smoking turkey's. Or, smoking anything really.
I could barely stand to look at last years spatchcocked turkey, let alone eat more than half of it.
And, it was a beauty too. I outdid myself with that one.
I've got a Dr's appt later today. I figured I'd hit them first and stop by the gunsmith's on the way home. No telephone number, unfortunately. I'm actually killing 2 birds with one stone there as I was planning on filling up my backpack with cheap coffee from a box store adjacent to him.
Once I get home I'm calling Crosman. Might see if I can talk them into another $88 C362 (another 2 birds...).
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I haven't received my Disco barrel yet, but did get my Challenger barrel. I pushed a .177 JSB Monster through it...
(https://i.imgur.com/zAHorfy.jpg)
... very nice engagement.
It is definitely a LW barrel and it is definitely choked. The lead and crown are flawless. Won't get to install it until this weekend, not sure when weather will allow accuracy tests, but will chrony it. With the power the gun has in .22... it should be very interesting to see what it has as a .177. ;)
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It is the Disco SE 24" barrel cut and crowned at 21".
Would that be part # 2260SE-001 or would that be part # 1760SE-001?
https://www.alliancehobby.com/discobbl.htm (https://www.alliancehobby.com/discobbl.htm)
Hopefully I can find a better price than what AH wants.
check with crosman…I got mine for $23.75 before shipping….Have u read the thread on AH….good luck
1760SE-001. (Courtesy of avator)
I never bothered to have mine cut and crowned…but a local gunsmith said he could/would..
I never did get around to ordering parts the other day. Trust me, going to the doctor when one rides a bike to get around can be an ordeal. Southwest headwind was fighting me coming and going. I was exhausted by the time I got home.
I'm about halfway there on my ordering from Crosman.
I'm definitely ordering the .177 Disco barrel and a .177 muzzle adapter for the Maximus for a 1/2-20 can.
I started to order a C362 but the AGNATION code isn't working for me.
Smartest thing would be to wait until the AGNATION code is working; (and it also dawned on me to wait until Friday for possible free shipping). Then order another C362, a steel breech, and the .177 Disco barrel and .177 muzzle adapter.
Then it occurred to me to ask about the part numbers for the .22 Disco barrel and ,22 Maximus muzzle adapter. Probably be better to have the option at least to put the .22 Disco barrel on later while the muzzle adapter would go on immediately.
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It is the Disco SE 24" barrel cut and crowned at 21".
Would that be part # 2260SE-001 or would that be part # 1760SE-001?
https://www.alliancehobby.com/discobbl.htm (https://www.alliancehobby.com/discobbl.htm)
Hopefully I can find a better price than what AH wants.
check with crosman…I got mine for $23.75 before shipping….Have u read the thread on AH….good luck
1760SE-001. (Courtesy of avator)
I never bothered to have mine cut and crowned…but a local gunsmith said he could/would..
I never did get around to ordering parts the other day. Trust me, going to the doctor when one rides a bike to get around can be an ordeal. Southwest headwind was fighting me coming and going. I was exhausted by the time I got home.
I'm about halfway there on my ordering from Crosman.
I'm definitely ordering the .177 Disco barrel and a .177 muzzle adapter for the Maximus for a 1/2-20 can.
I started to order a C362 but the AGNATION code isn't working for me.
Smartest thing would be to wait until the AGNATION code is working; (and it also dawned on me to wait until Friday for possible free shipping). Then order another C362, a steel breech, and the .177 Disco barrel and .177 muzzle adapter.
Then it occurred to me to ask about the part numbers for the .22 Disco barrel and ,22 Maximus muzzle adapter. Probably be better to have the option at least to put the .22 Disco barrel on later while the muzzle adapter would go on immediately.
Check the classifieds ….
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Check the classifieds ….
Looks like this is my 'Doh' moment. ;D
I'm maxed out on tummy med's, at present. I feel like I have about a 10 second flash to bang reactive thinking today.
On the other hand, I just fired a 20 yard open sighted group with my .177 Optimus that had me seriously questioning my decision to get the .177 disco barrel. LOL
It's gusting out of the Northwest today at 17 mph. It took me about an hour to shoot that group waiting for the wind to die down between shots.
Turned out too that my pellet pen for that rifle only had 7 pellets left in it. Filled that back up to the brim with 7.9 cphp and replaced it in its sheath. My Optimus is my back door rifle.
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Check the classifieds ….
The classifieds were less than helpful. That's ok, Instead, I downloaded the EVP manual for the Disco and the Maximus to get the part numbers. Crosman is OOS for the .177 SE barrel. I was able to order the .22 SE barrel and the Maximus muzzle adapter for a 1/2-20 can. Lady I talked to told me when to check back for the .177 SE barrel.
Turns out Crosman no longer has free shipping on Fridays and the AGNATION discount code is history.
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An update on the Crosman Challenger .177 barrel...
I have had to learn from the school of hard knocks and a big thank you to Ron for helping me sort this out.
When I installed my Challenger barrel, I had an issue with the bolt seating fully into the lead of the barrel. I returned the barrel believing that the Lead, which looked flawless, had not been fully finished. I got a second replacement barrel and got the exact same thing. The lead itself was flawless, however it was a straight lead and not a tapered one.
The original Challenger barrel from about 2013 and prior was made by Lothar Walther and had a tapered lead. At some point after that, Crosman changed the Challenger barrel lead from a tapered to a straight lead and started making them in-house. Instead of using a new part number for the in-house barrel, they kept the same part number instead of changing it, causing confusion between the two different versions. The CH2009-014 that Crosman carries, so far, seems to be the Straight lead barrels and they will not work on the 13xx or 362 platforms. I have returned the barrel again and am waiting to see if Crosman can sort this out and provide me the correct version of this barrel. My guess is that they probably do not have any of the original barrels left in stock. I just have to wait and see? My guess at this point is that I will have to return the next one for refund and locate the correct version elsewhere or just go with a Disco barrel and hope for the best.
If anyone here is considering the Challenger barrel as an option, you will have to make sure that it is the version with the tapered lead and not the straight one.
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1760SE-001 is what you want.
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1760SE-001 is what you want.
Thanks Bill, I appreciate that ;). Crosman is currently out of stock with the .177 Disco barrel and didn't really know for sure when they would have them back in? I had one on order last month when they said they had them but cancelled it a few weeks later when I called asking about and they told me they mis-stated it's availability. I can get the .22 version but holding off for now until Crosman responds to this Challenger fiasco. Ron might have a lead on where I can get the original LW Challenger barrel as well, so all is not lost yet. I have options, I just have to be patient and learn what those options are whether Disco, or Challenger?
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Personally, I prefer LW barrels.
The Challenger barrel is a bit undersized though.
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Personally, I prefer LW barrels.
The Challenger barrel is a bit undersized though.
same here. The original Challenger barrel is a Lother Walther, so I am holding out for now to see if I can get one. If I end going Disco... I will go back to one in .22 since that was what my main interest in this 362 was to begin with. ;)
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Personally, I prefer LW barrels.
The Challenger barrel is a bit undersized though.
same here. The original Challenger barrel is a Lother Walther, so I am holding out for now to see if I can get one. If I end going Disco... I will go back to one in .22 since that was what my main interest in this 362 was to begin with. ;)
I was pertaining to the OD of the LW Challenger barrel.
I saw one for sale by D_ray something.
The breech has been reworked by Nervoustrigger, so the length is now 18".
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1760SE-001 is what you want.
ksThanks Bill, I appreciate that ;). Crosman is currently out of stock with the .177 Disco barrel and didn't really know for sure when they would have them back in? I had one on order last month when they said they had them but cancelled it a few weeks later when I called asking about and they told me they mis-stated it's availability. I can get the .22 version but holding off for now until Crosman responds to this Challenger fiasco. Ron might have a lead on where I can get the original LW Challenger barrel as well, so all is not lost yet. I have options, I just have to be patient and learn what those options are whether Disco, or Challenger?
Pre-order the 1760SE-001 from Crosman. That's what I did Monday. The lady said it would likely be up to 2 weeks; but that it would be worth the wait.
Crosman emailed me this morning to let me know my .177 Disco SE barrel is on the way. 4 days delay in this case? Not bad.
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Personally, I prefer LW barrels.
The Challenger barrel is a bit undersized though.
same here. The original Challenger barrel is a Lother Walther, so I am holding out for now to see if I can get one. If I end going Disco... I will go back to one in .22 since that was what my main interest in this 362 was to begin with. ;)
I was pertaining to the OD of the LW Challenger barrel.
I saw one for sale by D_ray something.
The breech has been reworked by Nervoustrigger, so the length is now 18".
Sold ;D
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=198231.0#msg156311409 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=198231.0#msg156311409)
Super cheap, IMHO.
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1760SE-001 is what you want.
ksThanks Bill, I appreciate that ;). Crosman is currently out of stock with the .177 Disco barrel and didn't really know for sure when they would have them back in? I had one on order last month when they said they had them but cancelled it a few weeks later when I called asking about and they told me they mis-stated it's availability. I can get the .22 version but holding off for now until Crosman responds to this Challenger fiasco. Ron might have a lead on where I can get the original LW Challenger barrel as well, so all is not lost yet. I have options, I just have to be patient and learn what those options are whether Disco, or Challenger?
Pre-order the 1760SE-001 from Crosman. That's what I did Monday. The lady said it would likely be up to 2 weeks; but that it would be worth the wait.
Crosman emailed me this morning to let me know my .177 Disco SE barrel is on the way. 4 days delay in this case? Not bad.
Thanks Jacob ;). I will see what Crosman comes back with on the current barrel before I get any deeper in this then I already am, then decide. ;)
Personally, I prefer LW barrels.
The Challenger barrel is a bit undersized though.
same here. The original Challenger barrel is a Lother Walther, so I am holding out for now to see if I can get one. If I end going Disco... I will go back to one in .22 since that was what my main interest in this 362 was to begin with. ;)
I was pertaining to the OD of the LW Challenger barrel.
I saw one for sale by D_ray something.
The breech has been reworked by Nervoustrigger, so the length is now 18".
Sold ;D
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=198231.0#msg156311409 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=198231.0#msg156311409)
Super cheap, IMHO.
Yes, I have LW on both my modded 13xx's and the OD's are very close. This is for the 362 so the length is important and the Challenger is almost exact in length. I would be fine with the longer Disco barrels too. ;)
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Yeah, 18" is too short for the 362.
It works, but you can "almost" never mount an LDC.
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Got both Disco barrels ordered from Crosman. I am "on the list" for the .177, and there are 5 ahead of me, but the .22 is in stock. ;)
I will go with the .22 first anyway, as that is what I ordered the 362 for, but will have the option for .177 if needed.
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Got both Disco barrels ordered from Crosman. I am "on the list" for the .177, and there are 5 ahead of me, but the .22 is in stock. ;)
I will go with the .22 first anyway, as that is what I ordered the 362 for, but will have the option for .177 if needed.
I'm doing the opposite thing. My .22 barrel came in yesterday. It gives noticeable pep to even 3 pumps. Accuracy is better too.
But, I ordered and modded a Winchester 1977XS last year trying to get a major league bird gun out of it and didn't quite succeed. On the other hand, my homemade 1389 project exceeded beyond my wildest dreams.
The range of the 1389 is kinda limited though.
My .177 SE barrel will be here this afternoon. I'm hoping its as accurate as the .22 SE barrel.
If it is, then the .177 will be my main rifle while keeping the .22 barrel as an option.
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I'm late to the party with the 362, but so far not too impressed. I was playing with the QB guns mostly, before I took a few years off airguns, and the 22XX guns feel toylike and flimsy in comparison. I do have a couple long steel receivers from when I messed with the lego guns, so one of those is going on this 362, that plastic receiver still not worthy.This 352 barrel has got to go, too...it's rough as a cob inside. Have an old disco barrel (maybe 2260?) that's smooth as glass inside...I may have taper lapped it back in the day. That's going on the 362 as well, it's longer.The trigger contact points have been stoned, we'll se if that's enough, there may be an old trigger unit around with all the mods already done. A spring guide for the spring, and we'll see how it goes.
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1 of the 3 362s I bought had a barrel that needed attention, replaced it with the longer 2260 barrel, deburred and polished the oe 362 barrel and used it on the 2260.
Let the Legoing begin :)
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/MGalleryItem.php?id=8426)
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The one 362 I bought had a rough barrel as well. Burr in the crown, lead, and barrel port. Shotgun pattern accuracy. Put a 2260 barrel on it, much better. Mostly sub 3/4" at 20 yards. Completely reworked the trigger group, added three adjustment screws and have it hair trigger light. Does a decent job overall but took some work to get it there.
I doubt I will ever bother reworking the oem barrel, don't need it really. Been waiting for a couple months now for a Disco. 177 barrel from Crosman for another lego 1377 project.
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I'm really disappointed in my 2 stock .22 barrels. They're good enough for 3 to 5 pump plinking, but not hunting for sure.