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Airguns by Make and Model => Diana Airguns => Topic started by: longhunter on January 01, 2022, 12:59:34 PM
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I have a Diana / Mauser k98, and I want to put a peep sight on it, while keeping the original front sight.
Any ideas on a sight that will fit, and stay put, under recoil ??
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Hi Scott,
First I wish you a very happy new year.
Now, as you know, I'm far from an expert plus I never used a diopter or a peep sight (does the Crosman 1377 count ? I don't think so). But a few years ago I considered buying a diopter for my wooden stock Webley Rebel until I realized it needs a special tunnel front sight so I sent it back. Anyway, unless you're looking for low end ones, these accessories cost an excessive lot of bucks -probably more than common air rifles themselves.
So I had been lurking on a Gamo stuff and if I eventually didn't buy it, maybe you could pay a glance at it : https://www.gamo.com/en/gamo-match-grade-diopter/ (https://www.gamo.com/en/gamo-match-grade-diopter/)
However I can't tell you if it can fit your Diana K98 dovetail or picattiny rail. Moreover, I couldn't find it on the GAMO USA website but only here : https://www.dowdlesports.com/Gamo-Diopter-Sight_p_9439.html. (https://www.dowdlesports.com/Gamo-Diopter-Sight_p_9439.html.)
If this might have helped :o ;).
Yves
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A Williams sport peep like the FP-AG series will fit. Classic Anschutz match diopters will also fit the Diana rail. New 10-meter sights can be quite expensive but the older ones can be found for reasonable money with a bit of patience. (Note: Diana themselves made match air rifles for many years, but oddly enough none of those sights will work on the current rail.)
There has been quite a bit of info on aperture sights posted on GTA lately. Here's a couple to start with:
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=194228.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=194228.0)
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=170939.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=170939.0)
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I'm leaning towards the Williams sight. I hunt with the k98, a target sight would set too high.
Thanks a bunch, guys.
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For the record, the Anschutz diopters will adjust as low as the Williams, i.e. you'd have no issue sighting it in. But the lighter and more compact sport peep is a better choice for hunting, for sure.
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Haven't people had really bad experiences hitching antique peeps onto magnum springers such as the K98? I have heard of the peep sights actually being mangled beyond usability by the heavy recoil that modern magnum springers have, and antique target guns didn't.
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IMO the K98 is a mellow shooting spring piston, shot cycle is not even as harsh as a 357 big bore PCP . there is always Vibra- Tite ;)
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I also ran across a sight by UTG, that has "ears " on either side of the peep. Looks more in keeping with the military look of the rifle.
It was available through Krale.
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I also ran across a sight by UTG, that has "ears " on either side of the peep. Looks more in keeping with the military look of the rifle.
It was available through Krale.
All the UTG rear sights I know are Picatinny based.
Make sure you get one for 11 mm's rail, or consider the UTG picatinny to dovetail adapter (it has a stop screw).
Krale has the CZ 11 mm's one, though that is a bit pricey.
HTH
HM
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I also ran across a sight by UTG, that has "ears " on either side of the peep. Looks more in keeping with the military look of the rifle.
It was available through Krale.
All the UTG rear sights I know are Picatinny based.
Make sure you get one for 11 mm's rail, or consider the UTG picatinny to dovetail adapter (it has a stop screw).
Krale has the CZ 11 mm's one, though that is a bit pricey.
HTH
HM
CZ. That's what I meant. Don't know why I said UTG.
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IMO the K98 is a mellow shooting spring piston
The Mauser K98 produces about the same power as Diana's hardest-shooting magnum springers. I don't know of any magnum springer that was mellow to shoot, especially OEM. Maybe you shoot a detuned Mauser?
The K98 weighs 4.3 kg, so it's heavier = steadier than the 460 Mag or 350 Mag, but only a little heavier than a D48, which has a whole lotta shaking and thumb-busting recoil going on. Very hard on sights and sight bases.
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Haven't people had really bad experiences hitching antique peeps onto magnum springers such as the K98? I have heard of the peep sights actually being mangled beyond usability by the heavy recoil that modern magnum springers have, and antique target guns didn't.
No single answer to this one; there are sights and there are sights.
Diana's own classic match diopters don't fit their current rails - which may be on purpose, as their shallow serrated attachment "foot" would likely fail on a hard charger like the D48 or D350. I might also hesitate to use an older Anschutz alloy sight (such as model 6705 on left in the photo), or some other vintage types.
But Anschutz's vintage all-steel "Universal" models (models 6700, early and late 6702 l-r in the pic), OEM fitments for all types of guns up to centerfires, are built like little anvils. I could always be wrong but can't imagine their having an issue on a springer.
(https://i.postimg.cc/0yNSTgp4/7-EF6-CFE0-D1-A0-45-D9-8981-34-A1-A3-AA1-FBF.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBkDSpYN)
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Haven't people had really bad experiences hitching antique peeps onto magnum springers such as the K98? I have heard of the peep sights actually being mangled beyond usability by the heavy recoil that modern magnum springers have, and antique target guns didn't.
No single answer to this one; there are sights and there are sights.
Diana's own classic match diopters don't fit their current rails - which may be on purpose, as their shallow serrated attachment "foot" would likely fail on a hard charger like the D48 or D350. I might also hesitate to use an older Anschutz alloy sight (such as model 6705 on left in the photo), or some other vintage types.
But Anschutz's vintage all-steel "Universal" models (models 6700, early and late 6702 l-r in the pic), OEM fitments for all types of guns up to centerfires, are built like little anvils. I could always be wrong but can't imagine their having an issue on a springer.
(https://i.postimg.cc/0yNSTgp4/7-EF6-CFE0-D1-A0-45-D9-8981-34-A1-A3-AA1-FBF.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBkDSpYN)
Absolutely correct! THANKS!
HM