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Airguns by Make and Model => Feinwerkbau => Topic started by: DonC on December 15, 2021, 04:58:24 PM
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I had to send my first rifle back due to the problem and now my second rifle is doing the same problem.
Problem.....You fire the rifle and the safety engages. You can't cock the rifle now. You have to push safety off AND pull the trigger to click the trigger sear. Now it will cock. Very annoying.
The first rifle did it every 5th shot. Now my second rifle does this every 30th shot or so.
Do any of you owners have this same problem?
TIA
DonC
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Have adjusted the trigger from the original factory setting? An incorrectly set trigger group can cause all kinds of problems.
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Sorry to hear that, Don.
I've adjusted the trigger on mine and have had no issues like that, but TJK makes a good point. Best of luck and do let us know how things develop.
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New model or old model 124?
Jason
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I bought this rifle a couple of weeks ago from AoA. No trigger adjustment or other tinkering (other than adjusting the sight). Had similar problem, but only happened twice after about 200 shots. Not something predictable or repeatable. Was thinking about asking for replacement or return, but I think AoA sold out. Now I wonder that there might be some design flow of trigger unit not catching the spring.
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I did not adjust the trigger from factory. Seems like a design problem.
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Another guy from Airgun Nation has experienced the same problem.
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It's such a cool gun, it's a shame to have this problem. I wonder if this were in part the reason why they discontinued it.
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With even the most expensive and esteemed springer models having some badly thought out / produced details, one has to think that, as well as the engineers and designers work, at some point in this modern world the penny pinchers hop in front of the drawing board and say there is no more time = money to spend on the new design. Off it goes, with a bunch of impressive features and one or two head scratchers along the lines of: what were they thinking?
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I've not had that issue after several thousand pellets. I wonder if the problem units have close serial numbers?
In any case if AOA has sold out their only recourse would be a refund I would think..... or a 97K ;)
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My first rifle was from AOA and they couldn't send a replacement because they were sold out. Got a credit and bought the 2nd one tuned from Flying Dragons. Now I am thinkng ofsending it to Ed Krzyowek in Texas. He has done tunes for other guys from what I read on the Yellow forum.
I don't crae what it costs I want it fixed. Pilkington is FWB listed service but I want aftermarket parts.
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First place I would start is by pulling the trigger block and checking the safety slide and detent. The ones I owned where terribly harsh, and won’t get better. Maybe the recoil has knocked something loose. They are super simple to work on tho.
Jason
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First place I would start is by pulling the trigger block and checking the safety slide and detent. The ones I owned where terribly harsh, and won’t get better. Maybe the recoil has knocked something loose. They are super simple to work on tho.
Jason
Yes, and clean it up/out.
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I had to send my first rifle back due to the problem and now my second rifle is doing the same problem.
Problem.....You fire the rifle and the safety engages. You can't cock the rifle now. You have to push safety off AND pull the trigger to click the trigger sear. Now it will cock. Very annoying.
The first rifle did it every 5th shot. Now my second rifle does this every 30th shot or so.
Do any of you owners have this same problem?
TIA
DonC
The trigger unit must have a minor issue and somehow stays set even though the piston has been released. Shouldn't be too hard to fix after taking apart.
Rekford triggers on Weihrauch guns work the same way - if you set (fire mode) the trigger unit when reassembling (for ease of assembly), the trigger system will not engage the piston tang to allow re-cocking.
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First place I would start is by pulling the trigger block and checking the safety slide and detent. The ones I owned where terribly harsh, and won’t get better. Maybe the recoil has knocked something loose. They are super simple to work on tho.
Jason
Hey Jason, are you saying the shot cycle is harsh and not fixable or the safety release (slide) can't be smoothed out?
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I was reading another thread somewhere where another Feinwerkbau owner had the same issue. His solution was to add a little "spring tar" to the contact surfaces of the safety linkage. It's the recoil that's causing the safety to reset. A little stickyness should halt it.
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My first rifle was from AOA and they couldn't send a replacement because they were sold out. Got a credit and bought the 2nd one tuned from Flying Dragons. Now I am thinkng ofsending it to Ed Krzyowek in Texas. He has done tunes for other guys from what I read on the Yellow forum.
I don't crae what it costs I want it fixed. Pilkington is FWB listed service but I want aftermarket parts.
Do It!
A guy at the range brought his new 124 to the range. Pretty gun, kicked like a bucking bronco. Sent it to Ed, waited, waited, waited some more. When he got it back it was smooth as butter.
i understand that Ed experimented in lots of things to it. And redid lots of things too, until he got it right. And he sure did. ;)
-Y
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I think the recoil theory is probably correct. I recently open a tin of RWS 7gr Meisterkugeln. This problem would occur every 2~3 shots. Switching back to 8.2gr pellets, almost never happens. Given that there are plenty of people shooting non-lead pellets lighter than 7gr, this is certainly a design flaw.
I called AoA, and people there are very nice, as always. They said they never had this problem with FWB Sport, and they are contacting FWB. I am wondering if it worth the trouble to ship back to AoA.
This is the most shootable sport springer I have shot. The sight would line up naturally. The wide and flat forearm reminds me of the 10M target rifles that I used to shoot. I dug out my old shooting gloves so I can rest it on my fist.
It is a shame that FWB discontinued it. Really hope FWB would reintroduce Sport with some minor revisions (piston cap, front side globe with exchangeable inserts, and fix this cocking problem). A missed opportunity.
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AOA did know about the problem. I returned the rifle to them. At that time they refunded $ because they had none in stock.
Pilkinton, Feinverkbau repair, also knew about the trigger/safety issue.
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This is really confusing to me... I have the new Feinwerkbau Sport, and the recoil does reengage the safety sometimes, but it doesn't disrupt the mechanics in any way. If the safety reengages I can still cock it, load it, disengage the safety, and fire it without taking any extra steps. What do you mean about not being able to cock the rifle again when the safety gets reengaged?
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To be clear, it is not really the safety problem, but the gun cannot be cocked after firing a shot: the trigger mechanism simply cannot catch the spring. The only solution close it and dry fire, and after which you can cock the gun again. It happens very frequently with light pellets (every other time with 7gr pellets) but rarely with heavy pellets (once every 50 shots with 8.2gr pellets). Pretty annoying for an otherwise great gun.
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To be clear, it is not really the safety problem, but the gun cannot be cocked after firing a shot: the trigger mechanism simply cannot catch the spring. The only solution close it and dry fire, and after which you can cock the gun again. It happens very frequently with light pellets (every other time with 7gr pellets) but rarely with heavy pellets (once every 50 shots with 8.2gr pellets). Pretty annoying for an otherwise great gun.
Lu,
Send it to Motorhead! He will fix it. ;)
-Y
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Hi Yogi,
Thank you for the suggestion. I am pretty new to this forum. Could you pass along "Motorhead" info?
Thanks!
Lu
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This is really confusing to me... I have the new Feinwerkbau Sport, and the recoil does reengage the safety sometimes, but it doesn't disrupt the mechanics in any way. If the safety reengages I can still cock it, load it, disengage the safety, and fire it without taking any extra steps. What do you mean about not being able to cock the rifle again when the safety gets reengaged?
Yes it won't cock. The sequence is.......Take a shot safety trips on.......can't cock the rifle......have to take safety off......pull the trigger to trip the sear audible click.....now it will cock.
Very annoying.
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Hi Yogi,
Thank you for the suggestion. I am pretty new to this forum. Could you pass along "Motorhead" info?
Thanks!
Lu
He is a tuner who sometimes hangs out here. Send him a PM.
He is a great tuner and super nice guy! ;)
-Y
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Not sure how many people are still having problems with this. AOA just told me that FWB offers a replacement part for the rifle, as multiple customers have the same problem. I just sent mine in for repair. The service at AOA is top notch.
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I'm surprised AOA is doing anything with it, it not a PCP! I had a chance to buy a new one a couple years ago and passed after firing a couple shots thru it. Pretty, but buzzed like a $50 Chinese rifle. A basic design flaw like that, all for only $800! I'm glad I walked away.