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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Air Gun Gate => Topic started by: Tommyzgunz on June 26, 2021, 02:38:45 PM
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So far I own mostly PCP's with just one springer, a Diana 34 classic. It is perfectly fine and no issues. From what I've heard and seen on the forum ,the spring will eventually have to be changed.
When it comes to spring compressors are there certain models considered better than other's or are there cheap and more expensive models out there like everything else ,for example chinese manufactured?
I could use some suggestions on compressors . Thinking I might get one in the near future to have here instead of looking for one later on because I do plan on getting at least 1 or 2 more springers to the collection and will need one around when I need to change one out.
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Thomas
I have never done a Diana but do a search here and google there are lots of instruction on how to make one far more cheaper than a bought one and in most cases better too.
I believe Air Venture sells one for around 100 bucks that clamps to your scope rail.
Myself I use a pipe with modified pipe clamps. Does the trick quite well and one size fits all.
Frank
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Thomas
I have never done a Diana but do a search here and google there are lots of instruction on how to make one far more cheaper than a bought one and in most cases better too.
I believe Air Venture sells one for around 100 bucks that clamps to your scope rail.
Myself I use a pipe with modified pipe clamps. Does the trick quite well and one size fits all.
Frank
Thanks Frank if there are good diy projects for it i would rather go that route then.
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I received one of those Air Venturi spring compressors for free, PA was including them with purchase of certain air rifles a while ago. If your gun isn't scoped, then its a very good device. The $100 price tag is a bit much I think, but it does work very well. I've used it on Hatsan's and multiple Diana air rifles. It's compact and quick to use compared to other spring compressors I've used. Keep an eye on promotional deals, sometimes you get neat stuff.
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I received one of those Air Venturi spring compressors for free, PA was including them with purchase of certain air rifles a while ago. If your gun isn't scoped, then its a very good device. The $100 price tag is a bit much I think, but it does work very well. I've used it on Hatsan's and multiple Diana air rifles. It's compact and quick to use compared to other spring compressors I've used. Keep an eye on promotional deals, sometimes you get neat stuff.
Mine is scoped. Thanks
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A guy on YouTube doing springers using one of these .
Zip zap pow done
https://www.lowes.com/pd/IRWIN-QUICK-GRIP-36-in-Heavy-Duty-One-Handed-Bar-Clamp/1003168272 (https://www.lowes.com/pd/IRWIN-QUICK-GRIP-36-in-Heavy-Duty-One-Handed-Bar-Clamp/1003168272)
Just made a deal on one end to fit in the reciver part (a nut?)
Plenty of home made ones on YouTube as well to look at for ideas
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A Groz (brand) sash clamp will do the job quite nicely for about $50. The jack screw on most sash clamps is too short but the Groz is adequate. If you wish to build your own there are instructions in the GTA library as well as on charliedatuna.com. I built mine out of a 2 X 4, a six inch C clamp, and some assorted nuts and bolts. Note that in addition to the pictures I've attached a document file including instructions and a kind of bill of materials.
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I've used a lightly modified harbor freight bar clamp. just dremeled on a bit of texturing to keep it from sliding off.
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A guy on YouTube doing springers using one of these .
Zip zap pow done
https://www.lowes.com/pd/IRWIN-QUICK-GRIP-36-in-Heavy-Duty-One-Handed-Bar-Clamp/1003168272 (https://www.lowes.com/pd/IRWIN-QUICK-GRIP-36-in-Heavy-Duty-One-Handed-Bar-Clamp/1003168272)
Just made a deal on one end to fit in the reciver part (a nut?)
Plenty of home made ones on YouTube as well to look at for ideas
Thanks. Looking like I will research the best diy option. Safety first though ,don't need any springs flying around lol.
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A Groz (brand) sash clamp will do the job quite nicely for about $50. The jack screw on most sash clamps is too short but the Groz is adequate. If you wish to build your own there are instructions in the GTA library as well as on charliedatuna.com. I built mine out of a 2 X 4, a six inch C clamp, and some assorted nuts and bolts. Note that in addition to the pictures I've attached a document file including instructions and a kind of bill of materials.
Awesome thanks
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I've used a lightly modified harbor freight bar clamp. just dremeled on a bit of texturing to keep it from sliding off.
Great,thanks
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A Groz (brand) sash clamp will do the job quite nicely for about $50. The jack screw on most sash clamps is too short but the Groz is adequate. If you wish to build your own there are instructions in the GTA library as well as on charliedatuna.com. I built mine out of a 2 X 4, a six inch C clamp, and some assorted nuts and bolts. Note that in addition to the pictures I've attached a document file including instructions and a kind of bill of materials.
That's what I'm talking about. Cheap harbor freight Clamp and wack it drill it mount it use it.
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So far I own mostly PCP's with just one springer, a Diana 34 classic. It is perfectly fine and no issues. From what I've heard and seen on the forum ,the spring will eventually have to be changed.
When it comes to spring compressors are there certain models considered better than other's or are there cheap and more expensive models out there like everything else ,for example chinese manufactured?
I could use some suggestions on compressors . Thinking I might get one in the near future to have here instead of looking for one later on because I do plan on getting at least 1 or 2 more springers to the collection and will need one around when I need to change one out.
I use a padded Groz sash clamp for a compressor...........
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/groz-60-t-bar-clamp (https://www.woodcraft.com/products/groz-60-t-bar-clamp)
(https://i.imgur.com/4AEugwc.png) (https://i.imgur.com/xWypFzN.png) (https://i.imgur.com/0lCRsSf.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/5krUm6g.jpg)
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I tried to find it to no avail, but one guy used a automobile scissor jack in a simple wood frame.
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You can actually order the Groz clamp from Amazon as well as other sources. Be sure to get a long enough clamp for anything you anticipate. I think 42" would do for most guns but 48" would not be a bad choice. The nice thing about the Groz compared to the others is the fact the jack screw is long enough to handle the preload on most airguns.
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Google air gun spring compressors get results then hit the images and see 100's of them homemade and all . Plenty of ideas to go with and try.
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Here is one that seems to have traveled the globe. 8)
https://www.airrifle.co.za/threads/13084-Ol-Mick-s-spring-compressor (https://www.airrifle.co.za/threads/13084-Ol-Mick-s-spring-compressor)
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A Groz (brand) sash clamp will do the job quite nicely for about $50. The jack screw on most sash clamps is too short but the Groz is adequate. If you wish to build your own there are instructions in the GTA library as well as on charliedatuna.com. I built mine out of a 2 X 4, a six inch C clamp, and some assorted nuts and bolts. Note that in addition to the pictures I've attached a document file including instructions and a kind of bill of materials.
Ooo! I like this one. Turning the clamp upright looks like a much better method. Thanks.
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You can build a good one with scrap 12" 2"x4"'s, some threaded rod, washers and nuts. The wood clamp didn't work for me upon reassembly due to the tension of the new spring. The clamp would bow in the middle from the stress. Check out Google or you tube. I think it cost me $9.00 for everything.
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Here's mine, it's the sun optics that was on sale for 80 bucks at Dvor a while back.
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For a Diana 34 a spring compressor is not worth screwing with. I have done tons of 34’s and realized it’s easier and to me safer not to use a compressor and I don’t have to take the scope off. Just hold the barreled action with one hand, putting your shoulder in it, leaning into it on the edge of a table and push the two pins out with the other hand and slowish let up. Easy. Reverse to put back together. If you are worried about it the first time have someone push the pins out/in while you hold the rifle down on the edge of the table.
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I bought a Sun Optics spring compressor when they were on sale for about $60. Seems they were discontinued. If you can find one. Mine works fine
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I tried to find it to no avail, but one guy used a automobile scissor jack in a simple wood frame.
LoL... Here he is .. ya it ain't rocket science
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CcQ_qURI_Zc
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Thank you eveeyone for all the suggestions, much appreciated
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I tried to find it to no avail, but one guy used a automobile scissor jack in a simple wood frame.
LoL... Here he is .. ya it ain't rocket science
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CcQ_qURI_Zc
LOL.....definitely a "ghetto mode" solution!
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I tried to find it to no avail, but one guy used a automobile scissor jack in a simple wood frame.
LoL... Here he is .. ya it ain't rocket science
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CcQ_qURI_Zc
LOL.....definitely a "ghetto mode" solution!
Ya, pretty close to the level I can stoop to.
I definitely ain't above that.😁
In the end all it got to do is work.
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Click on the GTA Library, then look under projects, CDT spring compressor "how to make". CDT=Charlie DaTuna
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Click on the GTA Library, then look under projects, CDT spring compressor "how to make". CDT=Charlie DaTuna
Thank you
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There used to be a whole section on spring compressors in the Library but I couldn't find it... looks like someone has been doing some house keeping.
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It seems like to some, not using a spring compressor is akin to not taking a good hold on the cocking arm of an underlever while loading a pellet, which by the by, can be considerably more dangerous than not using a spring compressor IMHO.
I have used both wood clamps and arm strength, both with success. Even did an model 48 without any assistance from tools. I admit, that was quite the chore.
If doing a good supply of guns on a regular basis, don't hesitate to emulate the vast number of compressor ideas shared on this and other sites.
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It seems like to some, not using a spring compressor is akin to not taking a good hold on the cocking arm of an underlever while loading a pellet, which by the by, can be considerably more dangerous than not using a spring compressor IMHO.
I have used both wood clamps and arm strength, both with success. Even did an model 48 without any assistance from tools. I admit, that was quite the chore.
If doing a good supply of guns on a regular basis, don't hesitate to emulate the vast number of compressor ideas shared on this and other sites.
There used to be a whole section on spring compressors in the Library but I couldn't find it... looks like someone has been doing some house keeping.
Here are some "ideas"..............
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=airgun+spring+compressor&atb=v278-7__&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.airgunforum.co.uk%2Fcommunity%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttp%3A%252F%252Fbarx.org%252Fdiverse%252Fairgun_spring_compressor_03.jpg%26hash%3Dce7bba3d1eb50d74cedd000f67df7cf7 (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=airgun+spring+compressor&atb=v278-7__&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.airgunforum.co.uk%2Fcommunity%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttp%3A%252F%252Fbarx.org%252Fdiverse%252Fairgun_spring_compressor_03.jpg%26hash%3Dce7bba3d1eb50d74cedd000f67df7cf7)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPsh6VVkwZk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPsh6VVkwZk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCwuhMfRw9o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCwuhMfRw9o)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_7wfn3ev-Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_7wfn3ev-Q)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCwuhMfRw9o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCwuhMfRw9o)
Personally, I prefer to simply use a padded Groz sash clamp!
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Here is a homemade spring compressor that has served me quite well through several diy tunes.
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Thanks guys.
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Here is a homemade spring compressor that has served me quite well through several diy tunes.
Heck ya, looks safer then the tire jack way above..lol