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Airguns by Make and Model => Benjamin Airguns => Topic started by: Kasilofsteve on June 25, 2021, 09:55:14 PM
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I I have a Benjamin Prowler 22 caliber. Pellet was left in it for almost 2 days I feel like such a bonehead but I think it was my friend who did it I just put the gun back in the case until today I realized it had been cock that whole time. It's still shoots okay I think could I have damaged the gas Ram? And should I replace it.
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If it is still working good, I would not mess with it.
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You may have done it a favor by keeping pressure on the ram seals ??? Less space for the silicone oil to lose contact with seals/
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i always keep mine cocked. it's a nitro piston it shouldn't do any damage, no springs to damage. even then springs get damaged on compression/decompression, not just sitting
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Several members here have “experimented” with leaving springers and gas rams cocked for long periods. ;D
The general consensus seems to be that it is not a good idea to leave a cheap spring powered gun cocked for too long. No one agrees on what “too long” is. Gas rams are supposed to be less susceptible to damage from being left cocked. My experience is that gas rams are very durable and leaving one cocked even for several weeks does not hurt it.
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Steven,
Gas ram airguns are sold as being completely impervious to being kept cocked "all day".
The percentage increase in gas pressure in the ram between the rifle being cocked and uncocked is actually small. Nothing that would affect any part of system that has been functioning correctly up till being left cocked.
The only concern is the potential for an accidental discharge with an "unloaded gun".
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All of you guys have set my mind at ease. I really appreciate it I've only had the rifle for about a year. It seems to still be shooting fairly strong ,evev after this.I'll have to borrow my neighbor's chronograph and run some numbers to see what it is actually doing. I've always known about leaving Springer's cock for too long and thats not good.but the gas Rams? Thanks again everyone
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Moved to the Crosman gate.
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the difference is mostly that metal (springs) will suffer fatigue and deteriorate with every compression and the Gas in a ram will not. compressed it may heat up a little but it will slowly cool a bit and expand to the original volume when the ram expands again. As far as the chrony... did you chrony it before? if not and you are going by box numbers you may be alarmed again, as the numbers tend to be a little less enthusiastic than what is on the box. a healthy Np1 would shoot about 730 to 740 when you get it, slow down to high 600s when broken in. nothing wrong with it... i got 2 and they are both very consistent, but one at 711 fps with 14.3gr and the other at 660... (the lower powered one is a joy to shoot, and a plague on small game, way pass 40 yards). both started at 730+, one a prowler and the other a titan. by the way, the rams are easy to get through crosman, and cheap. you can also ask for different velocities as needed (i have a canadian model np2 that shoots at 428 fps with 14.3... it is a riot. so accurate and easy to shoot as well as quiet... i think you may be able to get down to 500fps on the np1.)
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I have Benjamin Trail NP2 and left it cocked for over 3 weeks. 4 years later it's still shooting great with no loss of power.
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The gas rams that lifts your car hood or a rear hatch stays compressed most of the time and stands ready when called upon. I'm not sure they are exactly the same but both are gas rams and staying compressed doesn't affect them.
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You ever owned a 80s firebird?... LMBO.
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You ever owned a 80s firebird?... LMBO.
Yes I did LOL A wooden dowel makes a good gas ram replacement in that case ;)
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My 20 year old, childhood Gamo Hunter 440 has been left cocked countless times for various amounts of time and never has it shown any issues -and it’s a regular springer.
Sometimes I was a naive teenager and wanted the thing to be easy to get going on the fly whenever a red squirrel showed up to chew on the garage. So I’d leave it cocked but not loaded (wasn’t the biggest kid, so it was a chore to cock till I was like 13-14) Other times, lots of times actually, I’d put it away in the garage not realizing one of my friends broke the action and cocked the spring while checking if it was loaded or something, but didn’t load a pellet to discharge it. Both instances left the rifle sitting cocked for various amounts of time with no noticeable damage.
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A wooden dowel makes a good gas ram replacement in that case ;)
put a dowel in my benji... making no power at all... heck it wont even cock! lol
funny what will work on a 80s piece of americana will do nothing for our hobby at hand...
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Leaving a spring compressed doesn't damage/weaken it at all. None. Nada. Zilch.
It's the working it back and forth, causing metal fatigue, that weakens springs.
If you left yours cocked for 3 years without shooting it, well, you just saved 1 shot cycle.