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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: 953120 on September 28, 2011, 10:58:43 PM
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I have asked and have had some of my questions answered about the marauder. I am thinking of buying one. What is the realistic total cost to get one up and firing? I have never had a pcp before just springers. I am not in a position to spend tons of money but I will get it if I really want one. I noticed that the disco is sold with a pump. Does that pump work for the marauder? how much of a pain is the pump to use? a diving tank sounds like it would be very expensive and I am no where near the ocean so finding a used one would be tough. What kind of compressor can you use? I have a sears 3 gallon compressor. Will that work? any help would be appreciated.
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The Disco pump will work.... The higher the pressure you pump to, the harder it will be....
Tanks are great, but make sure you can get it filled locally or it's a waste of money....
PCPs need a compressor that will deliver at least 3000 psi.... Your shop compressor does maybe 120 psi tops.... You can maybe use it as the first stage for a ShoeBox HPA compressor (if your shop compressor is oil-less).... which run about $500....
Bob
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The same pump that works for the Discovery rifle will work for the Marauder. There are several other hand pumps out there that work equally as well or better. Pumping by hand rapidly becomes a pain to do. A lot of folks use SCUBA tanks, but IMO the best choice for a Marauder is an SCBA tank with 4500 psi capability. SCUBA only holds slightly over 3000 psi at best. If filling a Marauder to 3000 psi, 4500psi gets you many more fills per tank. Your Sears 3 gallon compressor may get you 125 or so PSI. But used in conjunction with the http://www.shoeboxcompressor.com/ (http://www.shoeboxcompressor.com/) you will be set up to be self sufficient in supplying your own air.
I am lucky in that I am a Fireman and can just fill my tanks at work. Several folks have firemen friends that fill tanks for them. But not all Fire Depts. will allow it. Do some research on what convenient air sources will be available to you before you make any expensive decisions.
Richard
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hand pumping will likely be cheapest. then scuba tank 3kpsi. then scba tank 4500psi, then 6k psi nitrogen. hand pump would be good to get you started. alot of guys on here use them religiously. i like Richard would prefer 4500 psi or higher tanks. when i sit down to shoot alot i want to shoot not pump. ;D even though you may not be on the coast there may be a dive shop close. check with fire dept, paint ball shop, or can lease the 6k nitrogen from local welding supply but will need some what expensive regulator $.
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Thanks for the great info. One more question. What is a scba tank? where do you get them and what do they cost?
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Thanks for the great info. One more question. What is a scba tank? where do you get them and what do they cost?
Scuba tanks and you can get them locally at diver shops, or on line from many specialty places.
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Hey Robert, the SCBA is a carbon fiber wrapped tank that is smaller than a SCUBA(think of tank's that firefighter's wear on their back's) an has a rating of 4,500psi over a normal SCUBA tank's 3,200, look in our Mall for TanksForSale.com, Joe will do you right, cost depend's on tank, it is pretty high but worth it in long run.
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If you do look for a used tank, be sure it has a current visual inspection (yearly) and a current hydro (every 5)
also make sure you have a place to fill.
If i shot more, i would have looked at the 6k nitrogen tank. Its very cheap for me to rent the tanks from airgas, but you need a regulator to step it down to usable pressures.
Good luck!
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Scba is different from scuba- scba is traditionally from 3500-4500psi- they are used primarily as Fireman breathing apparatus, but are normally carbon fiber and much smaller, lighter and take more pressure. I have 2 44cu.ft. tanks that hold 4500 psi ea. that I got used on e-bay-they have a 15yr. service life and have to be hydo'd every 5 years- mine have 10 more years off a fresh hydro and I paid $110 ea. Combine with a Shoebox as mentioned, they are awesome! and I have had a pump and scuba.A brand new one will run you $5oo-6oo Check Joe Brancatos sight:
http://www.airtanksforsale.com/ (http://www.airtanksforsale.com/)
He will tell you exactly what you need for any set-up if you go that route-very nice guy`
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For me, a hand pump was out of the question. I had to look for an alternative and the SCUBA tank was it. I found my SCUBA tank at my local dive shop. It holds 3000psi...I bought it to use with a Discovery, which fills at 2000psi. If you check your dive shop for a tank, be sure and ask if they will fill that tank for you. Some shops will not do that unless you're a certified diver...no use to get a tank if you have no place to get it refilled.
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Pyramydair.com has a package deal with the benji pump for a good price along with the NRA discount. It's 550 shipped with the discount for the pump and .22 cal gun.
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SCBA = Self contained breathing apparatus.
SCUBA = Self contained underwater breathing apparatus.
Carbon fiber SCBA tanks are commonly found in sizes of 44 cf, 66 cf, and 88 cf. Most that are currently used are 4500 psi, but there are older ones (made of steel or aluminum) that are only rated for 2216 psi.
I don't know much about SCUBA tanks, other than they are most commonly rated for 3000 psi, or slightly more. And they also come in a variety of sizes.
Richard