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Airguns by Make and Model => Vintage Air Gun Gate => Topic started by: bifboy on September 25, 2011, 11:40:57 PM

Title: 80's "Phanton"
Post by: bifboy on September 25, 2011, 11:40:57 PM
A coworker of mine is offering to sell "Phanton" (not Phantom) Made in Spain Ser: G44290 but no manufacturer.  It has a little surface rust but shoots great once i tightened all the screws up.  Has a front peep with changeable posts.  Anyone know who manufacturer is and other details on the gun? 

This can shoot better than i can.  At 25' in the basement i was doing dime sized groups standing artillery hold. (There were plenty of flyers but those were the shooter, not the gun.)

Co-worker thought it was worth $25 which i think is a great deal for me.  Anyone know what it is really worth?

How much or little should be done to clean it up?  It's been in closet storage for about 15 years.
Title: Re: 80's "Phanton"
Post by: RedFeather on September 26, 2011, 12:38:28 AM
Well, that's probably a misspelling.  A little after our 1980 cutoff but, owing to this one's uniqueness, we'll let it slide.  Spanish guns from that era are usually El Gamo's, Norica's, Cometa's and a bunch of smaller models patterned like the Fletcha's ("Arrow" in Spanish).  A picture will help narrow the search for you.
Title: Re: 80's "Phanton"
Post by: bifboy on September 30, 2011, 12:23:19 AM
Okay, i finally took some pictures to help in the identification.
The gun
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pqwxYk2j9eg/ToUyU8ALEvI/AAAAAAAAAA4/ke2dDB9e8eY/s128/IMG_0769.jpg)
Manufacturer stamp
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3c64SmNTvsA/ToUydbMbgTI/AAAAAAAAABM/FKRbJ81blrQ/s128/IMG_0773.JPG)
Model
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tJMJz_kleEA/ToUyVQAYH-I/AAAAAAAAAA0/6Z7I2NCB0pg/s128/IMG_0771.JPG)
Sights
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CIBCJCnpHaA/ToUybHJpkBI/AAAAAAAAABA/ZjDCSzV78Es/s128/IMG_0772.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-viWESHyAW9c/ToUyc6RRilI/AAAAAAAAABQ/TB10fIhAwsY/s128/IMG_0774.JPG)

Any help is appreciated.

Title: Re: 80's "Phanton"
Post by: flyer on September 30, 2011, 09:12:25 AM
             It looks like the Norica model 73 of this era. My cousin owned a Norica mod. 61-C in 0.177" cal which was very similar to model 73 and the one in your pictures (by the way they don't open to bigger size).
Title: Re: 80's "Phanton"
Post by: dukemeister on September 30, 2011, 06:46:12 PM
No puedo ver nada!
Title: Re: 80's "Phanton"
Post by: RedFeather on September 30, 2011, 10:17:51 PM
Does it look like my Norica 73?

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e20/RedFeather2/pix1736037953-1.jpg)



(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e20/RedFeather2/pix1736037828-1.jpg)




(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e20/RedFeather2/pix1736038062-1.jpg)


Typical Norica 73 or 80G breech face -


(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e20/RedFeather2/Bild3.jpg)

A bit twangy but very decent little shooters.  About like a Diana 24 in terms of power, although I haven't chronographed mine.  I think the 80G is a bit hotter.  Nice trigger, too.

Note - I mistyped 89 for 80, subsequently edited.
Title: Re: 80's "Phanton"
Post by: bifboy on October 01, 2011, 10:20:02 PM
Yes, redfeather. it looks very much like that.   

Any idea where to get parts? I think i just blew the seal on it.  The pellet wouldn't come out and black foamy piece fell out from the spring area. 

Still a nice for the money i paid so i hope to get it back into shooting shape.
Title: Re: 80's "Phanton"
Post by: bifboy on October 01, 2011, 10:20:31 PM
BTW - thanks for the identification help
(Hit post too soon.)
Title: Re: 80's "Phanton"
Post by: RedFeather on October 05, 2011, 11:24:23 PM
I'm not sure what size seal those take.  I thought they were leather but now I'm thinking they might be synthetic.  You will have to pull the piston and take some measurements.  Or you could ask on the Yellow.  The 80G is slightly different and I'm guessing a tad larger.  The 73 might be the same as the Beeman imported "Falcon" guns.  You might ask on the Yellow forum if anyone has (had) one of these and worked on it.