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Airguns by Make and Model => Crosman Airguns => Topic started by: PGunner on April 27, 2021, 09:39:36 AM
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Crosman 1377
Have any of you tried any barrel from ebay on one of your guns?
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I don't own a 1377, but if it's the same OD and it says it's for 1377's it should fit. Why eBay? Crosman barrels are not expensive.
Harry
PS. Moved to the Crosman Gate.
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Alchemy Airwerks sells on ebay. Very good to deal with!
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I bought two 2250 14.6" barrels (Pn 2250-019 - the one you see on ebay that mentions a "dimple") at Crosman this February for $9.80 each. Barrels are not shipped under the $4 flat rate, so get your list of parts together to justify the higher shipping charge.
Granted you want a .177 barrel, not a .22 barrel.
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Couldn't find them at Crosman.
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Here's a link to a list of Crosman barrels.
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=93878.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=93878.0)
H. T. H.
Hunter
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The only thing I could find was a stock obsolete.
or I guess I'm just SOL
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Figure out what size barrel you want, then call Crosman, Velocity outdoors. You must call, you can't order online.
Main # 5856576161
Customer support 8007247486
Be sure to get the seal.
H. T. H.
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I could convert to a .22cal.
barrel $20 14in
breach $40 Steel
stock $25 Plastic
It doesn't seem like there as many up grade parts for the 177.
But I like that 1377.
I guess I'll call Crasman and see if I can get a 14in barrel.
Is the longer barrel better on the 1377?
Would it be worth the longer barrel, steel breach and the stock for the 1377 or convert to a 1322 about $90 either way?
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If going for a longer barrel, you may like the flatter trajectory of the .177also more pellet options, esp. thesr days with shortages.
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Pyramid has them:
https://www.pyramydair.com/search-results-ext?keyword=crosman+barrel&sid=1375A617A415&N=0&Ntk=primary&q=crosman+barrel&cx=002970863286801882398:jlcminxfwdw&cof=FORID:11;NB:1&saSearch (https://www.pyramydair.com/search-results-ext?keyword=crosman+barrel&sid=1375A617A415&N=0&Ntk=primary&q=crosman+barrel&cx=002970863286801882398:jlcminxfwdw&cof=FORID:11;NB:1&saSearch)
Also Charles Melon who cuts and recrowns them, so they become more accurate:
https://mellonair.myfreesites.net/ (https://mellonair.myfreesites.net/)
https://mellonair.myfreesites.net/barrels (https://mellonair.myfreesites.net/barrels)
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I think that if you convert to 22 cal you need the barrel and bolt, and oring.
Chech the expanded parts diagram for each and note the differences.
Go to support.crosman.com
https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/sections/200658070-Crosman-Air-Pistols
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I called Crosman and was told I need the part # for a longer barrel for a Crosman 1377.
The part# above is for a 1322.
Do any one have the part# for a longer barrel for a Crosman 1377?
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There are no longer barrels specifically for 13xx. You will need a longer barrel, different barrel band and 1322 bolt & O ring.
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Something I found interesting on barrel crowns.
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffnt&q=is+a+croun+in+a+gun+nessary&ia=web
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Why does Crosman make it so hard to use there sight to find things?
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For that Crosman 1377 if I get a 24" barrel for it and cut it back to 14" and a stainless steel breach.
What else would I need to complete the mod such as front sight, O ring, large transfer orifice and if you have info as part# or where to get it.
I'll start a post with all tie info I gather and help others. This will include the 1377 and the 1322 .
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Take the advise of other air gunners and get a barrel from Mellon or Alchemy Airworks. Much better than just a factory barrel.
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Alchemy Airworks sells on ebay, his store is "NeedfulThings"
I have a 14" Crosman 1377 barrel from him.
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I am pretty sure that the only way you can get a barrel longer that what the EVP for the gun shows through Crosman... you have to have bought a gun from their custom shop. you wont find a part number for those longer barrels until they send you a receipt for the custom gun or part you ordered. The Lothar Walther match barrel in 14.6" for the 1377 for example is P1300-999, the Crosman 14.6" for the 1322 is P1300-112. I only know these because i have a 13xx custom shop gun in both calibers.
with Crosman's custom shop down for a barrel shortage, which is what they told me... Alchemy Airwerks, Mellon Air, or Alliance Hobby as suggested is where you will find one. with Alliance and Mellon, if you are in a hurry, their shipping times are usually 2 to several weeks. Alchemy, if he has what you are looking for... a few days to a week. ;)
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I am pretty sure that the only way you can get a barrel longer that what the EVP for the gun shows through Crosman... you have to have bought a gun from their custom shop. you wont find a part number for those longer barrels until they send you a receipt for the custom gun or part you ordered. The Lothar Walther match barrel in 14.6" for the 1377 for example is P1300-999, the Crosman 14.6" for the 1322 is P1300-112. I only know these because i have a 13xx custom shop gun in both calibers.
with Crosman's custom shop down for a barrel shortage, which is what they told me... Alchemy Airwerks, Mellon Air, or Alliance Hobby as suggested is where you will find one. with Alliance and Mellon, if you are in a hurry, their shipping times are usually 2 to several weeks. Alchemy, if he has what you are looking for... a few days to a week. ;)
He can't order those barrels though if he does not have a CCS gun.
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I am pretty sure that the only way you can get a barrel longer that what the EVP for the gun shows through Crosman... you have to have bought a gun from their custom shop. you wont find a part number for those longer barrels until they send you a receipt for the custom gun or part you ordered. The Lothar Walther match barrel in 14.6" for the 1377 for example is P1300-999, the Crosman 14.6" for the 1322 is P1300-112. I only know these because i have a 13xx custom shop gun in both calibers.
with Crosman's custom shop down for a barrel shortage, which is what they told me... Alchemy Airwerks, Mellon Air, or Alliance Hobby as suggested is where you will find one. with Alliance and Mellon, if you are in a hurry, their shipping times are usually 2 to several weeks. Alchemy, if he has what you are looking for... a few days to a week. ;)
He can't order those barrels though if he does not have a CCS gun.
you are correct Sir. ;)
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Do these companies make there own barrels and parts or are they the same as Crosman has?
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Do these companies make there own barrels and parts or are they the same as Crosman has?
These particular companies sell actual Crosman and/or Lothar Walther barrels. They are the real thing. ;)
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Charlie Mellon gets about $35 for his .177 barrels, most lengths. He does good work, but he is slow. I'm about 2 weeks wait into a 15" .177 barrel for a build.
Always remember 'Good, Fast, Cheap. Pick 2' when dealing with small and one-man shops.
:)
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Charlie Mellon gets about $35 for his .177 barrels, most lengths. He does good work, but he is slow. I'm about 2 weeks wait into a 15" .177 barrel for a build.
Always remember 'Good, Fast, Cheap. Pick 2' when dealing with small and one-man shops.
:)
Just like Mr. Vernon Austin and his wonderful grips ;D
For the quality (they are gorgeous!), I find them affordable, but it does take a long time to receive them.
I would like to order more, but he hasn’t gotten back to me yet—the colors that I want are not part of his inventory, you know ;D
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The farther into this the more confusing it gets.
I guess what I'm looking at is aprox. a 14", barrel with a stainless steel breach, and a larger Transfer Port and Seal.
But I want to get good parts at a fair price.
Where do I Go for them?
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The farther into this the more confusing it gets.
I guess what I'm looking at is aprox. a 14", barrel with a stainless steel breach, and a larger Transfer Port and Seal.
But I want to get good parts at a fair price.
Where do I Go for them?
A lot of gents have already given you links.
What more do you want?
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The farther into this the more confusing it gets.
I guess what I'm looking at is aprox. a 14", barrel with a stainless steel breach, and a larger Transfer Port and Seal.
But I want to get good parts at a fair price.
Where do I Go for them?
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Can't recall ever seeing a Stainless Steel breech. ::)
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Sorry steel breach
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Lee, if you really want to change the barrel I'm hoping that you will be successful.
Have you studied the exploded view of parts for your Crosman?
Hunter
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The farther into this the more confusing it gets.
I guess what I'm looking at is aprox. a 14", barrel with a stainless steel breach, and a larger Transfer Port and Seal.
But I want to get good parts at a fair price.
Where do I Go for them?
Your best source for replacement parts is Crosman. They probably have the parts that you need. You must know the part numbers, no one can guess what variant that you have. Study the EVP. Get the part numbers that you will need, orings and seals do need to be replaced periodically.
No one can tell you exactly what to buy. There are people on this site that can help you but it doesn't seem like you are doing any research other than asking for a parts list when you haven't even stated which model you have.
Continuing to ask the same questions without providing necessary information makes me think that you are just trolling. If you're really trying, then study the EVP. Sometimes you need to study several EVP's and note the differences.
Make your parts list, then call Crosman. Crosman parts are very reasonable. They may not have some parts in stock.
Charles Mellon of Mellonair is also very reasonable on parts, but he doesn't have every part. I did purchase a couple of his power adjusters from him, it took a month to get them, but I knew that when I ordered the parts. I was very pleased with his work, and I definitely recommend buying from him. I haven't bought from Mountainview, but I know that they have a good reputation.
Steel breech, they have that at Crosman, or you can buy a kit. The kit would include the bolt and orings. Be aware that the plastic breech is lighter. And it has open sights. When you go to the steel breech those sights won't work because the steel breech has a 3/8ths dovetail. Then you can mount a scope or red dot sight.
I did order the steel breech, and a couple of barrels. I'll try to find the part numbers but mine is a 22 cal.
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What was wrong with Hunters original answer?
Here's a link to a list of Crosman barrels.
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=93878.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=93878.0)
H. T. H.
Hunter
If you check that link he provided, it should tell you all you need to order and barrel they make.
Gertrude gave us all the numbers.
Very kind of you Ron!
.177 (4.5mm)
Length Original Gun Crosman P/N
7.5" 1740 Only 1740-002
10.1" 2300T 2300-001
10.25" 1377 1377-025
10.1" L/W Match2300 2300-102
24" 1760 1760-001
.22 (5.5mm)
Length Original Gun Crosman P/N
7.5" 2240 Only 2240-002
10.25" 1322 1322-064
14.5" 2289 2289-001
14.5" 2250B 2250-019
18" 2400 2400-102
24" 2260 2260-003
18 " 2250XE 2400-006
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.177 (4.5mm)
Length Original Gun Crosman P/N
7.5" 1740 Only 1740-002
10.1" 2300T 2300-001
10.25" 1377 1377-025
10.1" L/W Match2300 2300-102
24" 1760 1760-001
1760SE-001 This One Get Price 24in barrel
.22 (5.5mm)
Length Original Gun Crosman P/N
7.5" 2240 Only 2240-002
10.25" 1322 1322-064
14.5" 2289 2289-001
14.5" 2250B 2250-019
18" 2400 2400-102
24" 2260 2260-003
18 " 2250XE 2400-006
2250 14.6" barrels (Pn 2250-019 .22cal
Barrel band- p/n 2289 @ https://alliancehobby.com/bands.htm $19.99
Walther match barrel in 14.6" for the 1377 for example is P1300-999, the Crosman 14.6" for the 1322 is P1300-112 Found that $99.99 doesn't make much sense on a $60.
Alchemy Airwerks, Mellon Air, or Alliance Hobby
Crosman Upgrade - Medalist 1377, 1322 Transfer Port and Seal - Various port hole sizes$7.98+
Mellon Air Can't find that one even went to an air plane service.
Alchemy Airwerks -crosman 1377 barrel Didn't see any. Ebay
Alliance Hobby 14" .177 Barrel + Bolt FREE USA Shipping $39.99. Looks same as a Crosman barrel $22.95 24"
I don't know if this items are better than Crosman or ordered from Crosman with a jacked up price.
I've tried on Crosman to find some of the oarts by P/N and all i get is nothing with that info.
Thanks for all the help it is appreciated.
Thank you Lee
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I don't know if this items are better than Crosman or ordered from Crosman with a jacked up price.
Lee,
You are starting to get the picture... In a way yes. These custom boutique shops (usually) buy a bunch of standard barrels from Crosman and cut them to custom lengths and then recrown the muzzle end.
All that is time and labor.... You are going to pay up for it.
You want a Lothar Walther match barrel... be ready to cough up some coin.
I didn't see the footnote that said modding was "cheap". ;)
I have a lowly Walmart PC77 (1377) that I dumped $100 of dollars into. (literally) :-\
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I have a free 2240 that I dumped $100 into. I won't look back. I like it.
14.5 inch Crosman barrel, steel breech, Mellonair power adjuster and red dot sight.
It's my gopher-getter.
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I have spent less than $50 on mine, lol!
I don’t compute my expenses, really ;D
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Charles Mellon's site is here:
https://mellonair.myfreesites.net/
Click on the three bar icon
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My problem is I'm not sure if I want to keep 1377 or mod it to a 1322 either way I want a 14" barrel and a steel breach and a stock, Same price both ways.
The 1377 has speed and a little better distance.
The 1322 has better knock down powder and with the mods good distance.
As far as the barrel I can cut it off and crown it. I have time to play with it. Retired. Isn't You Tub Great.
Are the 0 ring kits sold any better than the ones I can get at Harbor Freight?
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I don't know about the orings at harbor freight. I just ordered with the breech, orings, transfer port seal and barrel from Crosman. If you change to 22 cal then you will need a 22 cal bolt too. Don't forget the oring that goes on the bolt.
Crosman offers the little plastic stock for about $25 iirc.
Hunter
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I don't know about the orings at harbor freight. I just ordered with the breech, orings, transfer port seal and barrel from Crosman. If you change to 22 cal then you will need a 22 cal bolt too. Don't forget the oring that goes on the bolt.
Crosman offers the little plastic stock for about $25 iirc.
They are not that great, but I do have several kits of them for other uses.
Bought my main O-rings from Magnum Air Power and Amazon by the hundreds.
Hunter
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I guess I going with convert to a .22 so I ordered a 14.5" barrel and get other parts as they become available.
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Lee, have a look at these threads.
There were several variants. Some have a screw placed in the forward area, some placed at the back.
Some used a hammer with a slot cut into it to prevent it from dragging on the sear when fired.
If you change to 22 cal, then you'll also need a 22 cal bolt. It looks like some guys get the 22 cal Discovery bolt because it's a little longer.
I just bought the 22 kit.
I've been trying to find the part numbers for you.
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=63703.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=63703.0)
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=130751.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=130751.0)
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=45838.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=45838.0)
H T H.
Hunter
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Lee, I apologize for accusing you of trolling. I've been a bit under the weather.
Hunter
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Hunter Not a problem I've been accused of worse. I try to ask questions that I just don't know cause I have never done a mod on anything and just don't know what or how and am a little paranoid about making a costly me mistake and so others in the same boat can get it right.
I do appericate all the responses.
So thank all of you for helping me and all who might use this info to help them.
Thanks Lee
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Not sure what trolling means?
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People who go out of there way to make others internet experience "more thrilling" or a PITA I thought Subscriber was one, but now I know:)
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People who go out of there way to make others internet experience "more thrilling" or a PITA I thought Subscriber was one, but now I know:)
L.o.l.
It takes a while to get to know someone, especially on a forum where you don't see or hear them, or even know their real name. There are a few that I must pay close attention to their wording. I know that Subscriber is very smart, so I try to understand his meanings. There are others like that. Some post many thousand of posts that are very informative, like Cookie monster and Lloyd Sikes, Motorhead, Ribbonstone, Triggertreat, George Schoonmaker, Rallyshark, Darkcharisma, FuzzyGrub, Wayne52, NervousTrigger, WYOMAN ( all caps because of the spelling changer ), insanity, and yes Subscriber. There are probably 50 to 100 members that I always read their posts even if it's a topic that doesn't directly apply to me.
Virtual character recognition is an interesting side trip.
I hope that I've contributed a few tidbits of information over the years, I'm mostly here for comic relief, but a covid shot, ear ache and a root canal all together hit me pretty hard.
Hunter
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One of the things I don't like about written text is no way to tell if joking or serious or what ever. No voice tones.
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I have the breach ordered and the stock both on back order. Getting excited about starting to put it togather.
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I'm always joking , unless it is about airguns :) 8)
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Lee, did you see any thread about this trigger?
I polished a little and weakened the spring, it's not too bad.
There is a small spring and a very tiny ball bearing if I recall correctly, and the trigger spring. You just pull it out and squish it to lighten thr trigger pull. If you squish it too much just stretch it out a little.
It's been a couple of years since I did mine.
I will try to find the thread.
Hunter
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1377, 1322, 2240 etc trigger.
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=101393.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=101393.0)
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=120117.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=120117.0)
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=173283.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=173283.0)
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php%3Ftopic%3D120503.0&ved=2ahUKEwiA3evngbTwAhUFSK0KHWXyD78QFjADegQIBhAC&usg=AOvVaw3oI2pW8aAU9zeiZqNzv8g5 (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php%3Ftopic%3D120503.0&ved=2ahUKEwiA3evngbTwAhUFSK0KHWXyD78QFjADegQIBhAC&usg=AOvVaw3oI2pW8aAU9zeiZqNzv8g5)
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=148375.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=148375.0)
H. T. H.
Hunter
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read about this trigger, watching the video
It seems like the more I get into this the more complicated it gets!!
I read all the posts in reply to this and go to the web sights that are posted, read and watch the videos.
When I get all the parts to do it right I'll have to go back and review all the info posted here and post some pictures of the end product.
I keep saying Thanks but that seems a little light for the help I'm getting And I hope anyone else reading this gets something from it.
Lee
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PGunner, what you probably want is the Crosman 1701 trigger assembly, but you'll need to change / mod the hammer and a few other parts. There are good tutorials on this on the web. As to the breech, most of the steel ones are Crosman 'resales', I just installed an aluminum breech from Baker Airguns on my 1377 build. Okay quality, it arrived with the bolt and o-ring and is working fine for about $35 plus shipping.
Modding is an 'entertaining pastime', not to mention a spendy and sometimes frustrating one. Last time I checked [ just over a week ago], Crosman was still out of steel breech kits and 1701 trigger assemblies, get your part numbers in order, call, and be patient.
:)
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My 14.6 22cal. barrel arrived today and I have stock and breech on order.
Looked at a few other places and there talking about o ring, rear breech plug, barrel set screw, barrel set screw, a long probe bolt, bigger exhaust orifice.
Do I need any of the above parts and what else do I need to complete the change?
If so where would I get them and part # would be a great help too.
I hope I can get this done with out getting totally lost.
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Lee,
You asked about the long bolt.
Some guys like these because it sets the pellet deeper into the barrel. It may be necessary if you drill out the transfer port.
It's been a while, I think that everything was included in the steel breech kit.
Hunter
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Here is an ebay link for a complete 1701p trigger group with hammer, I got three over the last couple of months for various builds.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/274761972877?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/274761972877?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649)
Prior to that I had ordered parts from Crosman and put it together myself, much more costly that way though.
As far as putting one into one of the 22xx types, or like I did in a 2300 the only other thing to change or modify is the hammer
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I don't want to get into this any farther than just putting a 22cal barrel and a better breach to change my 1377 to a 1322 at least at this time and would like to know if there are any other parts I should get so I'll have them when the breach gets here.
For the moment I want to keep it as simple as I can for my first mod on a air gun.
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I don't want to get into this any farther than just putting a 22cal barrel and a better breach to change my 1377 to a 1322 at least at this time and would like to know if there are any other parts I should get so I'll have them when the breach gets here.
For the moment I want to keep it as simple as I can for my first mod on a air gun.
steel breech with .22 cal bolt / .22 cal barrel / 2289 barrel band for longer barrel... if you have those three things, you have all you need to make the change. ;)