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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: whtsmoke on March 13, 2021, 06:49:00 PM
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Lets just say that it looks like I am going to need to get a larger compressor to fill my two tanks(100cc, and 74 cuft), what would be a good one to get that will meet the needs of filling to 4500psi. I am not looking for the Rolls Royce model but one that is decent for the money spent and will hold up? Give me an idea of what I am looking at so I can figure out the money needed. Thanks guys Terry
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yong heng will do you well. You should still plan on buying support equipment for your compressor though.
added filters, cooling etc.
I probably spent as much if not more on added support gear than I did on the compressor itself.
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If you're handy and are willing to spend some coin, I would suggest a used Bauer Jr., Alpha Carette, HPDAVV or the new Tuxing that Knife just purchased....these are scuba breathable air units. I know a shop that has been using a full sized Bauer for years filling PCP tanks...still going strong...costly but worth it if you can afford it! Otherwise like said above, a REAL Yong Heng!
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If you're handy and are willing to spend some coin, I would suggest a used Bauer Jr., Alpha Carette, HPDAVV or the new Tuxing that Knife just purchased....these are scuba breathable air units. I know a shop that has been using a full sized Bauer for years filling PCP tanks...still going strong...costly but worth it if you can afford it! Otherwise like said above, a REAL Yong Heng!
Are you referring to "knifemaker"? i tried to find any posts that were made on this but couldn't find them. Terry
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Three years on my YH and still working good, I use an additional moisture trap and an additional fan for cooling. Top off my 45min scba tank a couple times a month.
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If you're handy and are willing to spend some coin, I would suggest a used Bauer Jr., Alpha Carette, HPDAVV or the new Tuxing that Knife just purchased....these are scuba breathable air units. I know a shop that has been using a full sized Bauer for years filling PCP tanks...still going strong...costly but worth it if you can afford it! Otherwise like said above, a REAL Yong Heng!
our hobby doesn't need breathable air. Just dry air. In case he doesn't know.
I have no idea on the cost of the other units but I'd guess you could buy 2 or 3 YH's for the cost of one of those?
They are all great options though, if you really have the coin, just get a nitrogen setup lol
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Randall, I think the Bauer is kinda "the Rolls Royce" he speaks of. Man Would I love one. I saw a dealer selling new Oceania's for 2995. Never seen such a low price before!
Wo-ah!
Poster. here is a lined to the model I am trading for and other models from our new U.S. dealer from the low cost to the top of the line they offer. He is still working on the site, so no prices yet, but he can be reached from the info here.
Knife
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=184735.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=184735.0)
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Randall, I think the Bauer is kinda "the Rolls Royce" he speaks of. Man Would I love one. I saw a dealer selling new Oceania's for 2995. Never seen such a low price before!
Wo-ah!
Poster. here is a lined to the model I am trading for and other models from our new U.S. dealer from the low cost to the top of the line they offer. He is still working on the site, so no prices yet, but he can be reached from the info here.
Knife
Thank you Knife, appreciate the info. Terry
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=184735.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=184735.0)
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My suggestion...
Do a little research on filling tanks as opposed to filling guns directly.
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^^^ I completely agree.
Believe it or not, you waste a lot of time and energy filling tanks, along with a lot of waste.
When I first got into the PCP realm many years ago, SCBA tanks were really the only feasible way to charge a PCP gun.
I spent a LOT of money on tanks and adapters. Along with hydros and fills, etc. I had a collection of 8 full size extended SCBA tanks that I bought. I also had a dive shop on my way to work that would fill them past 3500 psi.
Long story short, they went out of business, and I was forced to either buy a compressor like a Nardi or something else to fill them. Not practical. Also some of the fittings and DIN adapters were wearing out with use. Those cost money to replace too. Since the 8 tanks had expired hydros, I wasn't going to sell them and have one of them explode and kill someone, so I pierced them and trashed them for scrap.
In turn, I bought a few Chinese electric pumps, a EC3000, 2 Hill pumps and a few Chinese hand pumps. What's funny --- I've never had a problem with any of them! Come to think of it -- redundancy, redundancy.
I've had instances where I had a leaky valve empty a fully charged SCBA tank on me. Imagine how I felt?!
Moral of the story: If I was to get into PCP guns now, I would not even think about getting SCBA apparatus!
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Very timely thread! I just bought and filled an expired carbon fiber scba tank and after degassing the DAR .25 this morning, I found that the poppet came off the seat at about 15 bar. I doubt the compressor or hand pump could get me past that seating issue alone.
I for one vote for all three, each has its own place as far as I am concerned. 8)
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Randall, I think the Bauer is kinda "the Rolls Royce" he speaks of. Man Would I love one. I saw a dealer selling new Oceania's for 2995. Never seen such a low price before!
Wo-ah!
Poster. here is a lined to the model I am trading for and other models from our new U.S. dealer from the low cost to the top of the line they offer. He is still working on the site, so no prices yet, but he can be reached from the info here.
Knife
Thank you Knife, appreciate the info. Terry
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=184735.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=184735.0)
Thanks for the link, just got done reading it and yes it does look interesting and can't wait to hear what you think of it.
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Persistence has paid of and I have found a shop that will fill to 4500 on both tanks for 15, although its about a hour and a half round trip it will get me out of the house and there are several places on the the way back I will stop at so it's not a complete waste. I am still going to look into a bigger compressor but will wait on it. Thanks for everyone's input on the subject. Terry
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Persistence has paid of and I have found a shop that will fill to 4500 on both tanks for 15, although its about a hour and a half round trip it will get me out of the house and there are several places on the the way back I will stop at so it's not a complete waste. I am still going to look into a bigger compressor but will wait on it. Thanks for everyone's input on the subject. Terry
I think you made the right choice. Air independence is awesome but don't forget... dependence is part of that word. Once you build your PCP arsenal, a compressor failure will be devastating... or at least seem so.
If y'all read through these threads on compressors you'll get a mixed bag of what's acceptable and what's not.
What I seem to have noticed is that the folks who say they use these single cylinder Chinese compressors to fill tanks with no issues wouldn't have a problem going out and buying a replacement. Many of us don't have the luxury of expendable income. Many of us have to budget what we have just to enjoy our passion of airguns.
I mean, if I had unlimited resources I'd be shooting $2k guns filled with a couple $1k GW tanks that I fill with a $3k compressor. I'm just not there so I have to do what I can with what I can afford. So, when a manufacture suggests I limit my use of their product to filling guns only, I tend to follow those recommendations.
Impulse buying has landed me smack in the middle of a PILE of guns that quite honestly are barely worth the cost of packing up and shipping. Impulse buying is the reason I'm not shooting $2k guns filled with a couple $1k GW tanks that I fill with a $3k compressor.. :o