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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: eezapz2101 on February 26, 2021, 11:47:55 AM
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HELLO FELLOW AIR GUNNERS
SO IM WONDERING IF THERES ANY SUCCESS STORIES IN CUSTOMIZING RIFLES UNDER A 1000 DLLS TO SHOOT SLUGS PROPERLY?
OR SHOOTING SLUGS ITS RESERVED TO RIFLES OVER A 1000, 1500 OR 2000 DLLS?
OM WONDERING IF A 400, 600, OR 800 DLLS AIR RIFLE CAN BE MODIFIED, CUSTOMIZED AND TUNED TO SHOOT SLUGS WELL AND ACCURATE OVER 100 YARDS.
PS. SORRY ABOUT ALL CAPS I ONLY WRITE IN CAPS DONT MEAN NOTHING BY IT.
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Sure, Evanix Blizzard with .257 barrel. Does this at 100M with 257420 bullets while pushing 150 fpe:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48271717607_7b629d137d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gxBaTe)100m-group (https://flic.kr/p/2gxBaTe) by abbababbaccc (https://www.flickr.com/photos/11843711@N08/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49983319068_d00d8aabf4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2j9Rznf)evanix-br-1 (https://flic.kr/p/2j9Rznf) by abbababbaccc (https://www.flickr.com/photos/11843711@N08/), on Flickr
If I were to do it again I'd start with Kral Puncher and save a few hundred bucks.
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WOW THATS AMAZING
WHATS THE BARREL SPECS?
WHER DID YOU GET THE BARREL?
WAS THE BARREL MACHINED TO FIT YOU RIFLE OR DID YOU GET IT MACHINED ELSWHERE?
THIS RIFLE OF YOURS ITS A .25 RIGHT?
WHATS THE FPS?
SO YOU WHERE SAYING YOU WOULD DO IT AGAIN BUT WITH A KRAL PUCHER? THE MEGA OR ANOTHER ONE?
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Sure, Evanix Blizzard with .257 barrel. Does this at 100M with 257420 bullets while pushing 150 fpe:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48271717607_7b629d137d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gxBaTe)100m-group (https://flic.kr/p/2gxBaTe) by abbababbaccc (https://www.flickr.com/photos/11843711@N08/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49983319068_d00d8aabf4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2j9Rznf)evanix-br-1 (https://flic.kr/p/2j9Rznf) by abbababbaccc (https://www.flickr.com/photos/11843711@N08/), on Flickr
If I were to do it again I'd start with Kral Puncher and save a few hundred bucks.
WOW THATS AMAZING
WHATS THE BARREL SPECS?
WHER DID YOU GET THE BARREL?
WAS THE BARREL MACHINED TO FIT YOU RIFLE OR DID YOU GET IT MACHINED ELSWHERE?
THIS RIFLE OF YOURS ITS A .25 RIGHT?
WHATS THE FPS?
SO YOU WHERE SAYING YOU WOULD DO IT AGAIN BUT WITH A KRAL PUCHER? THE MEGA OR ANOTHER ONE?
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WOW THATS AMAZING
WHATS THE BARREL SPECS?
WHER DID YOU GET THE BARREL?
WAS THE BARREL MACHINED TO FIT YOU RIFLE OR DID YOU GET IT MACHINED ELSWHERE?
THIS RIFLE OF YOURS ITS A .25 RIGHT?
WHATS THE FPS?
SO YOU WHERE SAYING YOU WOULD DO IT AGAIN BUT WITH A KRAL PUCHER? THE MEGA OR ANOTHER ONE?
The barrel is TJ's .257, 14" twist and 30" long. I fitted the barrel myself but a mate did the chamber, leade in and o-ring groove. If I were to do it again I'd put the o-ring on the probe, easier to swap and inspect + it leaves more room for barrel port. The rifle started life as .357 but you could also do it with .25 or .22. I'd probably get a Kral bottle gun for a new build as they look nice and have a bit more air capacity.
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My Sumatra .22 loves Slugs, I'm getting 1/4" groups at 40 yards with FX and NSA slugs, the Sumatra is stock and set on High power, I think the barrel is unchoked?
the rest of my guns either hate slugs or get decent groups of about 1 1/2" - 2" groups at 40 yards, all choked barrels.
I'm going to modify my Gauntlet to shoot slugs, I'll take a couple inches off the end of the barrel and cut out the choke.... ;)
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My Fortitude shoots NSA slugs perfectly and they are devastating. While bone stock, it constitutes under $1k.
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WOW THATS AMAZING
WHATS THE BARREL SPECS?
WHER DID YOU GET THE BARREL?
WAS THE BARREL MACHINED TO FIT YOU RIFLE OR DID YOU GET IT MACHINED ELSWHERE?
THIS RIFLE OF YOURS ITS A .25 RIGHT?
WHATS THE FPS?
SO YOU WHERE SAYING YOU WOULD DO IT AGAIN BUT WITH A KRAL PUCHER? THE MEGA OR ANOTHER ONE?
The barrel is TJ's .257, 14" twist and 30" long. I fitted the barrel myself but a mate did the chamber, leade in and o-ring groove. If I were to do it again I'd put the o-ring on the probe, easier to swap and inspect + it leaves more room for barrel port. The rifle started life as .357 but you could also do it with .25 or .22. I'd probably get a Kral bottle gun for a new build as they look nice and have a bit more air capacity.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT STARTED AS A .357?
ORING ON THE PROVE? I HAVE NT SEEN THIS, WITCH RIFLE HAS THIS?
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My Sumatra .22 loves Slugs, I'm getting 1/4" groups at 40 yards with FX and NSA slugs, the Sumatra is stock and set on High power, I think the barrel is unchoked?
the rest of my guns either hate slugs or get decent groups of about 1 1/2" - 2" groups at 40 yards, all choked barrels.
I'm going to modify my Gauntlet to shoot slugs, I'll take a couple inches off the end of the barrel and cut out the choke.... ;)
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO DO TO IT TO GET IT SHOOTING SLUGS?
WHAT CALIBER IS IT?
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Here’s a 257 conversion I did a few years ago. Still shoots just as well only it’s bee tuned down a bit for 60grain bullets.
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=147066.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=147066.0)
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sorry but all capitals gives me a headache have some brain probs... have a prob with bright light also... is there a chance you could do all lowercase..?
30g .22 BBT are working well for me out of... Gamo Urban 625 fps, BSA buccaneer 675 fps, doing very well out of At44 Long 820 fps, and a Modded 45 fpe Benji Maximus 825 fps...
H&N grizzly .25 out of a Mrod at ~48 Fpe...
BBT 40g .25 are doing ok out of my other Mrod .25 at about the same fpe...
I have kept it to about 60 yards for distance tho...
Sizing the round to your barrel (choked or not) and lubrication are very important... Twist rate and slug length needs attention paid to... but some slugs sometimes work in slower twist barrels than general consensus has said is needed...
Sometimes a barrel just will not like a certain slug that it has plenty of twist for... In the end it is one of those things you can only learn by doing... research or having talked with others for years can help also...
each rifle/barrel is it's own set of personality/challenges... you may get lucky and copy what another has done and get plug and play or you may not...
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My Sumatra .22 loves Slugs, I'm getting 1/4" groups at 40 yards with FX and NSA slugs, the Sumatra is stock and set on High power, I think the barrel is unchoked?
the rest of my guns either hate slugs or get decent groups of about 1 1/2" - 2" groups at 40 yards, all choked barrels.
I'm going to modify my Gauntlet to shoot slugs, I'll take a couple inches off the end of the barrel and cut out the choke.... ;)
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO DO TO IT TO GET IT SHOOTING SLUGS?
WHAT CALIBER IS IT?
I'm going to cut the Choke part of the Barrel off and add some sound suppression to the shroud, it's a .22 cal
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My Sumatra .22 loves Slugs, I'm getting 1/4" groups at 40 yards with FX and NSA slugs, the Sumatra is stock and set on High power, I think the barrel is unchoked?
the rest of my guns either hate slugs or get decent groups of about 1 1/2" - 2" groups at 40 yards, all choked barrels.
I'm going to modify my Gauntlet to shoot slugs, I'll take a couple inches off the end of the barrel and cut out the choke.... ;)
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO DO TO IT TO GET IT SHOOTING SLUGS?
WHAT CALIBER IS IT?
I'm going to cut the Choke part of the Barrel off and add some sound suppression to the shroud, it's a .22 cal
thats all you are going to do? just cut the choke?
ofcourse some tuning i suppose?
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sorry but all capitals gives me a headache have some brain probs... have a prob with bright light also... is there a chance you could do all lowercase..?
30g .22 BBT are working well for me out of... Gamo Urban 625 fps, BSA buccaneer 675 fps, doing very well out of At44 Long 820 fps, and a Modded 45 fpe Benji Maximus 825 fps...
H&N grizzly .25 out of a Mrod at ~48 Fpe...
BBT 40g .25 are doing ok out of my other Mrod .25 at about the same fpe...
I have kept it to about 60 yards for distance tho...
Sizing the round to your barrel (choked or not) and lubrication are very important... Twist rate and slug length needs attention paid to... but some slugs sometimes work in slower twist barrels than general consensus has said is needed...
Sometimes a barrel just will not like a certain slug that it has plenty of twist for... In the end it is one of those things you can only learn by doing... research or having talked with others for years can help also...
each rifle/barrel is it's own set of personality/challenges... you may get lucky and copy what another has done and get plug and play or you may not...
so im looking for greater disatnces for hunting.
but im wondering wether to do a .22 slug mod to an air rifle or get a .25 pellet rilfe or even a .25 slug rifle.
also the issue its budget. im loking for a rifle under 800 dlls personally to mod
thats why im asking for success stories and se where this takes me
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How about just buy a benjamin bulldog. Shoots slugs well all day long.
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My Sumatra .22 loves Slugs, I'm getting 1/4" groups at 40 yards with FX and NSA slugs, the Sumatra is stock and set on High power, I think the barrel is unchoked?
the rest of my guns either hate slugs or get decent groups of about 1 1/2" - 2" groups at 40 yards, all choked barrels.
I'm going to modify my Gauntlet to shoot slugs, I'll take a couple inches off the end of the barrel and cut out the choke.... ;)
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO DO TO IT TO GET IT SHOOTING SLUGS?
WHAT CALIBER IS IT?
I'm going to cut the Choke part of the Barrel off and add some sound suppression to the shroud, it's a .22 cal
thats all you are going to do? just cut the choke?
ofcourse some tuning i suppose?
I'll re-crown the barrel too, I've already done modifications to the exterior of the gun and I installed a 1500 psi output regulator on a 500cc 4500 psi carbon fiber tank. maybe add some shims to the hammer spring too if needed... ;D