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Title: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: c801tfd on February 09, 2021, 08:18:03 PM
Looking at the usual sites yesterday, I noticed the more popular online stores don't even have a link for this model anymore. Did Sig discontinue the ASP20 entirely.
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: Roadworthy on February 09, 2021, 09:30:54 PM
Since it still exists on the Sig website I doubt it's discontinued.  You may need to contact Sig to determine where to buy one, though.https://www.sigsauer.com/airguns/rifles.html (https://www.sigsauer.com/airguns/rifles.html)
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: c801tfd on February 09, 2021, 11:00:53 PM
Roadworthy,

Going to do that as soon as time allows. I really still want to get one in .22, tried the .177 not impressed to much power to be wasted on such a small and light pellet. But that's just me and my preference. I am sure others like it in .177.
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: El Greco on February 11, 2021, 09:20:18 AM
I ordered one from Krale 3 days ago in .22 and came yesterday in just 2 days!! I was so impressed by the rifle and from the short time shooting it in the backyard that I ordered a second oneast night which I believe was their last one since the 5.5mm(22) does not show now on their site
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: El Greco on February 11, 2021, 11:12:01 AM
I wanted to verify with Krale and indeed the second one that I bought was their last .22 in existence and he said it is discontinued.
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: ER00z on February 11, 2021, 05:26:19 PM
I think AOA had some in stock. Not sure if discontinued, but maybe on pause.
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: ER00z on February 11, 2021, 05:27:56 PM
Sorry El Greco, fully read your post.
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: c801tfd on February 12, 2021, 12:56:01 AM
Well that is very disappointing to hear they may actually be discontinued. I will hold out hope someone pressed the pause button and they will resume production as the world stabilizes.
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: NorCalMan on February 26, 2021, 10:04:33 PM
Not sure if current

https://www.dowdlesports.com/Sig-Sauer-ASP20-SSG-Airgun-AIRGUNSSG-ASP202220FPSYNTHETIC-STOCK_p_109540.html?lt_c=1&quickcart=1 (https://www.dowdlesports.com/Sig-Sauer-ASP20-SSG-Airgun-AIRGUNSSG-ASP202220FPSYNTHETIC-STOCK_p_109540.html?lt_c=1&quickcart=1)

https://www.topgun-airguns.com/product/sig-sauer-asp20-synthetic/ (https://www.topgun-airguns.com/product/sig-sauer-asp20-synthetic/)

https://www.airgun-us.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=4722 (https://www.airgun-us.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=4722)

Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: c801tfd on February 27, 2021, 12:59:23 AM
NorCalMan,

Thanks for the heads up, I will be checking these locations out soon.
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: NorCalMan on March 01, 2021, 12:45:09 AM
NorCalMan,

Thanks for the heads up, I will be checking these locations out soon.

No problem!
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: RedFeather on March 02, 2021, 12:42:50 PM
HEADS UP! Airgun-us appears to be an elaborate scam. Just do a search and a post here in the GTA comes up.

I would give SIG a call to see if the guns are discontinued. I visited their site the other day and they only listed a few of the combos for sale, those being the .177 wood stocked, close to $500. All others were unavailable. My chief concern over these would be any long-term lack of support or aftermarket kits. They seem to be one of those forays like the recent FWB Sporter.
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: c801tfd on March 02, 2021, 08:33:53 PM
RedFeather,

The other two sites may be promising, unfortunately work has kept me busy so I have not had time to contact them yet. Before I do I want to make contact with Sig to find out if the are discontinued or just suspended until the world situation improves. I have decided if the are going the way of the dinosaurs and possibly having not secondary parts market for years, I am certain I will not pursue this model. My fingers are crossed the are on an indefinite suspension.
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: NorCalMan on March 04, 2021, 12:55:31 AM
HEADS UP! Airgun-us appears to be an elaborate scam. Just do a search and a post here in the GTA comes up.

I would give SIG a call to see if the guns are discontinued. I visited their site the other day and they only listed a few of the combos for sale, those being the .177 wood stocked, close to $500. All others were unavailable. My chief concern over these would be any long-term lack of support or aftermarket kits. They seem to be one of those forays like the recent FWB Sporter.

Good point!
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: NorCalMan on March 04, 2021, 12:56:52 AM
RedFeather,

The other two sites may be promising, unfortunately work has kept me busy so I have not had time to contact them yet. Before I do I want to make contact with Sig to find out if the are discontinued or just suspended until the world situation improves. I have decided if the are going the way of the dinosaurs and possibly having not secondary parts market for years, I am certain I will not pursue this model. My fingers are crossed the are on an indefinite suspension.

Keep us posted !
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: RedFeather on March 05, 2021, 12:39:17 PM
Well, since nobody else will call, guess I'll just have to do it, myself. PayPal me $5 🤑 and I'll tell you SIGUSA's reply.

All joking aside, I just talked to a young lady in their customer service department. The ASP20 is NOT discontinued, just out of stock. Guess it's the impact of the pandemic. You can log in and request to be notified when they are again available. Be warned, their price is MSRP. But if you do get an email from them, it's likely vendors like AoA, etc., will have them, also.
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: c801tfd on March 05, 2021, 10:36:06 PM
RedFeather - thank you for calling, I have been busy at work and by the time I remembered to call it was very late in the day on the East Coast (2-hours difference from Mountain Standard Time).
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: NorCalMan on March 06, 2021, 01:01:43 PM
A member over at AGN just bought one from Dowdles. Free shipping ! If you want one better act fast.
The .22cal versions are hard to come by these days.
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: NorCalMan on March 06, 2021, 02:53:08 PM
Turns out that Dowdles is a scam !
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: c801tfd on March 06, 2021, 08:20:15 PM
Looks like I will be waiting a while longer, just located and purchased a long sought after San Raphael .22 Caliber Beeman R1. Maybe when things improve I will hunt down the ASP20, but for now I will be happy with another old classic.
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: NorCalMan on March 07, 2021, 11:14:59 PM
Can't believe how desperate people can be!  Someone actually bid !

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SIG-ASP20-22/265070267391?hash=item3db76b4bff:g:5lwAAOSwJDhgOvww&redirect=mobile (https://www.ebay.com/itm/SIG-ASP20-22/265070267391?hash=item3db76b4bff:g:5lwAAOSwJDhgOvww&redirect=mobile)
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: RedFeather on March 09, 2021, 12:49:43 AM
Ha ha! Fleabay is Crazy Town when it comes to airgun auctions. Thrills and shills.
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: A.K.A. Tommy Boy on March 10, 2021, 12:00:15 AM
Here you go guys.

There are two 22cal Sig's for sale in the GTA Classifieds.

https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=184974.0;topicseen (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=184974.0;topicseen)


Best Wishes - Tom
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: c801tfd on March 10, 2021, 02:53:38 AM
At those prices I will pass, I have not spent over $350 for an air rifle yet and that was spent purchasing a vintage low number FWB 124 Sport Deluxe for myself.

My son spent that much with my blessing on the .177 caliber ASP20 with synthetic stock and no scope, after putting a few hundred rounds through it he felt it was not and did not live up to all the hype, he felt the finish was subpar, was louder than advertised even using 8gr lead pellets and felt heavier than advertised. Due to these factors he sold it in November 2020 and made almost all the money back of this $349.99 purchase with the exception of $25.00. Now he is looking for a different break barrel or a vintage one he likes.

Myself I would not hesitate to spend up to $350 again on another hard to find vintage air rifles that I am looking for, but will not do it for a new one no matter the maker or caliber.

At this point I am content to sit and wait for the day Sig resumes production if ever, if they do then I hope it will bring prices back into line and reality.

Hats off to the Seller of these two air rifles and good luck.
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: NorCalMan on March 10, 2021, 11:35:41 PM
At those prices I will pass, I have not spent over $350 for an air rifle yet and that was spent purchasing a vintage low number FWB 124 Sport Deluxe for myself.

My son spent that much with my blessing on the .177 caliber ASP20 with synthetic stock and no scope, after putting a few hundred rounds through it he felt it was not and did not live up to all the hype, he felt the finish was subpar, was louder than advertised even using 8gr lead pellets and felt heavier than advertised. Due to these factors he sold it in November 2020 and made almost all the money back of this $349.99 purchase with the exception of $25.00. Now he is looking for a different break barrel or a vintage one he likes.

Myself I would not hesitate to spend up to $350 again on another hard to find vintage air rifles that I am looking for, but will not do it for a new one no matter the maker or caliber.

At this point I am content to sit and wait for the day Sig resumes production if ever, if they do then I hope it will bring prices back into line and reality.

Hats off to the Seller of these two air rifles and good luck.

A 8 gr pellet in the Sig is to light. Would have been quitter, less harsh shot cycle, and more accurate with lead pellets
in the 10-11 gr range.
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: NorCalMan on March 10, 2021, 11:46:02 PM
Here you go guys.

There are two 22cal Sig's for sale in the GTA Classifieds.

https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=184974.0;topicseen (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=184974.0;topicseen)


Best Wishes - Tom

I saw that one on ebay. Can't believe it sold for what it did. That's a higher end Hawke 30mm scope. Like $350 new. The
wood stock asp20 was $429 when I bought one. The seller was trying to get back nearly every penny of investment back.
As far as sound goes the Sig and my RWS 34 are about the same

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SIG-ASP20-22-/265070267391?redirect=mobile&nma=true&si=RsiwvH2fAEHQXo7SBPCN3L9%252FKu4%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/SIG-ASP20-22-/265070267391?redirect=mobile&nma=true&si=RsiwvH2fAEHQXo7SBPCN3L9%252FKu4%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: c801tfd on March 11, 2021, 12:25:25 AM
NorCalMan,

I 100% agree with the fact a heavier pellet would have improved performance and may have altered his decision to sell the ..177 version. However, the 8gr or near 8gr pellet was lead and made for Sig and was the only pellet in stock at the store at the time of purchase. I make the same assessment of this rifle as I do for the .177 versions if the Beeman R1 (HW80), new FWB Sport and the ASP20 which is all may have or are suited for .20, .22 or .25 caliber due to the power they generate, in .177 to much potential is left on the table.

Who knows he may or I still might get one in .22 just to confirm it’s true potential in that caliber which I am certain to be accurate. But again I won’t look at them until the prices come back to reality at this point. I know we both had hopes for another made in the USA Air Rifle and still do.
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: NorCalMan on March 13, 2021, 08:07:23 PM
Just got off Sigs website and reviewed the questions & answers page regarding the ASP20. On 3/8/21 Sig
customer service rep said " we have discontinued the ASP20 line of air rifles "
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: Jshooter71 on March 14, 2021, 12:15:42 AM
Just got off Sigs website and reviewed the questions & answers page regarding the ASP20. On 3/8/21 Sig
customer service rep said " we have discontinued the ASP20 line of air rifles "

Bummer.  :-\
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: El Greco on March 16, 2021, 01:17:03 AM
The rifle on ebay was mine and I canceled the sale. I actually deleted the listing here as well because I decided to keep. Initial reason for selling was because I can't shoot in my backyard other than that the rifle shoots better than anything I ever had including my tuned rws 54 from John in PA.
As far as the price I actually got some angry messages on ebay that I refused to answer and fall on the low level of those that send it. One of them said " you are a funny man". Last time I checked America was still a free capitalist country and one can sell or buy as his pocket , wants, needs dictate.
As far as the price goes the rifle was brand new, discontinued and with taxes and shipping if it was available you were looking at around $500. The scope was around $350 it self and the metal cap alone and the honeycomb sunshade were separate accessories worth $100.
If you didn't Iike the price you could take a hike and buy something else .
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: El Greco on March 16, 2021, 01:20:33 AM
As far as the SIG ASP 20 it has some awesome features and history which in due time I will make a separate post about. I am sorry you guys didn't have the chance of shooting one and on the other hand extremely happy that in a moment of weakness I posted them for sale and noone bought them. Lucky me
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: c801tfd on March 16, 2021, 01:02:18 PM
Took my son to a local farm and ranch store (Murdoch's) last night after baseball practice. While there we went to the rifle and hanggun section to pick up some targets and pellets as they also deal in Airguns and Air Rifles. This is the store he bought the .177 version of the ASP20 with synthetic stock last year, had they had a .22 caliber one at the time he would not have purchased the .177. Well needless to say he was not impressed with the .177 so with my blessings he sold it and made back all but $25.00.

While there we noticed that they had two ASP20's on the shelf, the last time we were there after his purchase in September we had bought one of the two .177 they had on the shelf. Noticing this curiosity my son checked them them out again. All I can say is his face litup and he had that quiet now what do I as he wave with his arm to get my attention. There sitting on the shelf was what he was looking for the long out of stock .22 caliber ASP20 with synthetic stock, no scope priced at the manufactures suggested retail price of $399.00.

I told my son if he gave me what he had left of the money he got back on the sale of his former .177 ASP20 I would buy it for him, he said sure thing. We took it up to the counter and while checking out the salesman said they were gald to see another one of these leave the store as they were way to expensive to sell when sitting next to the much cheaper Benjamin Nitro somthing? and Gamo Swarm Fusion.

I asked him when they got more of these in as the .22 caliber had been out of stock for a long time. The salesman told me they didn't get more, this one had been returned to the store unopened/unused with sales receipt so they we able to take it back. The salesman said the old rancher just never found the time to use it and could not justify the expense of keeping it in the box. I told my son he was lucky to find this one and to take care of it, never sell it as this made in the USA air rifle is no longer being produced and again he got it for $399.00, which just goes to show with a little luck and patience you may still be able to find them at a local store.

As for a scope not a problem, as an early birthday present I gave him a Hawke Airmax scope that I had planned on using on my Beeman Santa Rosa .20 R1.       
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: airrob on March 16, 2021, 01:09:16 PM
I'm very upset at myself for not buying one when I had the chance.
Title: Re: What happened did Sig Sauer Discontinue the ASP20
Post by: Jshooter71 on March 16, 2021, 03:10:53 PM
I'm very upset at myself for not buying one when I had the chance.

+1