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Title: My latest vintage buy a Smith & Wesson 78G
Post by: Wayne52 on December 23, 2020, 02:03:06 PM
I've only had this gun a few days and am already having some fun with it, it seems to have plenty of power and is accurate.  The quality of these pistols is really great in my opinion, I'll probably be getting a holster for this one for the off season hunting of red squirrels when I'm out on the state land.

 https://youtu.be/0IvfjxCUuRY

Title: Re: My latest vintage buy a Smith & Wesson 78G
Post by: Pelle on December 23, 2020, 02:14:55 PM
  I had one and ruined it somehow. Thought of it as a toy. Shot a mouse in my apt once, over cheese, under the electric heat, on the wall.
Title: Re: My latest vintage buy a Smith & Wesson 78G
Post by: fivestar45 on December 24, 2020, 10:55:56 AM
Wayne I would advise that you chrony it, I'm not too sure that it has the power to take squirrel size animals. I have a S&W 79 that I've done a few mod's on, nice gun just not a power house.
Title: Re: My latest vintage buy a Smith & Wesson 78G
Post by: fwbsport on December 24, 2020, 01:27:52 PM
I've only had this gun a few days and am already having some fun with it, it seems to have plenty of power and is accurate.  The quality of these pistols is really great in my opinion, I'll probably be getting a holster for this one for the off season hunting of red squirrels when I'm out on the state land.

 https://youtu.be/0IvfjxCUuRY

I had that pistol in 1974.  In .22.  It gets 450 fps on high power.  It is very accurate and will kill starlings at 35 yards.  I've done it.
Title: Re: My latest vintage buy a Smith & Wesson 78G
Post by: Wayne52 on December 24, 2020, 01:54:56 PM
It's got plenty of power to kill a squirrel at 15 yards, that's about as far as I'd use it for something like that.  The power is as low as it will go right now, I tried backing it off some thinking that I'd be able to conserve on c02 but it's already at the lowest setting, I've never really tried turning the power up any.

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Title: Re: My latest vintage buy a Smith & Wesson 78G
Post by: Mackado on December 24, 2020, 06:06:56 PM
Good Deal Wayne!, nice one, sounds louder than CR150, great numbers with 16.5 grain
Title: Re: My latest vintage buy a Smith & Wesson 78G
Post by: Jeff Marshall on December 24, 2020, 06:41:49 PM
The most desirable one's have adjustable triggers.

All bulk fill adapters and hangy tanks made for a Crosman Mk I will fit and work perfectly on a 78g.

The 78g will fit in a holster made for a S&W model 41 .22 rimfire target pistol.

Title: Re: My latest vintage buy a Smith & Wesson 78G
Post by: Wayne52 on December 24, 2020, 08:30:36 PM
I did some more plinking with it today too, also might put together some video clips and speed them up so it don't take so long to watch them of another target.
Title: Re: My latest vintage buy a Smith & Wesson 78G
Post by: Randy00 on December 24, 2020, 08:34:15 PM
Really great find.
I had one in the mid 80's. Loved that gun. Gave it to my brother who promptly took it apart and destroy it.
Hope it holds well.. Mine was a tack driver. 
Title: Re: My latest vintage buy a Smith & Wesson 78G
Post by: Wayne52 on December 24, 2020, 09:00:03 PM
They're an excellent cure for the cabin fever in the winter . . . fun shooting 8)
 https://youtu.be/rCTda-8JWI4
Title: Re: My latest vintage buy a Smith & Wesson 78G
Post by: Wayne52 on December 25, 2020, 08:00:24 AM
Here's an 8 shot shooting session with the video at 2x speed
 https://youtu.be/W5uwRhqal5s
Title: Re: My latest vintage buy a Smith & Wesson 78G
Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 25, 2020, 09:46:41 AM
I have one on my "want list" but I always considered them a "Dolled Up" 454
You got a 600 correct?
So how does it compare?
Title: Re: My latest vintage buy a Smith & Wesson 78G
Post by: Wayne52 on December 25, 2020, 11:41:15 AM
Scott I've never had a Crosman 600, I'd like to have one but they're almost always for right hand shooters.
Title: Re: My latest vintage buy a Smith & Wesson 78G
Post by: mafatone on December 25, 2020, 05:44:35 PM
I had one one as a kid and loved it. I think the the cops took it off me and gave it to their kids just like they do with fireworks. Designed after the Browning Buck Mark. I need another one.
Title: Re: My latest vintage buy a Smith & Wesson 78G
Post by: Vee3 on December 25, 2020, 08:40:31 PM
I have one on my "want list" but I always considered them a "Dolled Up" 454

Crosman 454? Not even close.
Title: Re: My latest vintage buy a Smith & Wesson 78G
Post by: Wayne52 on December 25, 2020, 11:05:49 PM
The S&W 78G is Identical looking to the Smith and Wesson 41 target pistol .22, it's nothing like the Buck Mark airgun which is a springer.   On the 78G the hammer actually sits forward of the valve and I don't know of another air pistol that's designed like it.  All I can say is the engineer's at S&W really had to put on their thinking caps to design the pistol making it look identical to the model 41 and on top of that it's a really great performer to boot.
Title: Re: My latest vintage buy a Smith & Wesson 78G
Post by: Vee3 on December 26, 2020, 02:16:21 AM
Internally, the 78G is very similar to the Crosman MK1. Tim M. once told me...

"I guarantee that there was a MK1 in the room when the S&W engineers were designing the 78G."
Title: Re: My latest vintage buy a Smith & Wesson 78G
Post by: Wayne52 on December 26, 2020, 03:19:41 AM
Victor the main thing that discourages me from buying a Crosman 600 or the Mark1 is the fact it's rare seeing either one with grips that will work for a lefty.  A few years ago I did see a nice Crosman 600 with lefty friendly grips on it but that was back when I was buying Crosman 150's and now I kick myself in the butt for not bidding on that one.  They're both excellent guns from what I've been seeing about them and I'm still keeping a lookout on either model with lefty friendly grips on them.
Title: Re: My latest vintage buy a Smith & Wesson 78G
Post by: TerryM on December 26, 2020, 10:24:45 AM
I picked up a 78G a couple of years ago, not holding gas.  This thread has prompted me to dig it out and look at it some more.  Got the box, manual and partial tin of S&W pellets.  They look a lot like old Sheridan pellets.  Guess I'm going to have to get some seals and tear into this one.
Title: Re: My latest vintage buy a Smith & Wesson 78G
Post by: Luis Leon on December 26, 2020, 10:41:33 AM
Beautiful gun... looks like the S&W Model 41 in my safe...😀
Title: Re: My latest vintage buy a Smith & Wesson 78G
Post by: Wayne52 on December 26, 2020, 12:16:42 PM
Beautiful gun... looks like the S&W Model 41 in my safe...😀
Luis after shooting my 78G I got to looking at used model 41's and thought holy cow they have a price tag on them.  There's a lot of other PB's that I'd pick out there besides that I'd really like to have without the high price tag.
Title: Re: My latest vintage buy a Smith & Wesson 78G
Post by: Wayne52 on December 26, 2020, 12:40:19 PM
I picked up a 78G a couple of years ago, not holding gas.  This thread has prompted me to dig it out and look at it some more.  Got the box, manual and partial tin of S&W pellets.  They look a lot like old Sheridan pellets.  Guess I'm going to have to get some seals and tear into this one.
Terry I recommend the urethane o rings in them myself, I did buy a cheap double o ring kit on ebay that appeared to be urethane but they're not, I ended up taking out the main big one for the screw cap for the co2 and replacing it with one the same size (exactly the same size as the Crosman 150 cap) that I'd previously purchased from "The O Ring Store" which are very expensive and top of the line(blue color) in urethane.  It seems like they were about $3 a piece if I remember correctly.  There is a kit available that comes with the poppet and all urethane o rings on ebay that's $35 which is a decent deal considering it's got all urethane o rings.
Title: Re: My latest vintage buy a Smith & Wesson 78G
Post by: Vee3 on December 26, 2020, 12:49:49 PM
Victor the main thing that discourages me from buying a Crosman 600 or the Mark1 is the fact it's rare seeing either one with grips that will work for a lefty.

Wayne,

To make one of my MK1's holster friendly, I bought an original set of L/H grips on ebay, and replaced the R/H "thumb shelf" with the flat panel from the L/H set. Now it's ambidextrous and fits in a Ruger MK1 holster.

For one of my 600's, I bought a set of flat (no thumb shelf) walnut blanks from Ralph Brown and shaped them myself. RB is out of business, but I do see 600 wood grips on ebay, and there's a guy who offers them in L/H.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Crosman-600-grips-Exotic-or-laminate-wood-Target-Grips-RH-or-LH/133026803297?hash=item1ef903ee61:g:E-0AAOSwl5JcAdCO (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Crosman-600-grips-Exotic-or-laminate-wood-Target-Grips-RH-or-LH/133026803297?hash=item1ef903ee61:g:E-0AAOSwl5JcAdCO)
Title: Re: My latest vintage buy a Smith & Wesson 78G
Post by: Luis Leon on December 26, 2020, 02:02:56 PM
Beautiful gun... looks like the S&W Model 41 in my safe...😀
Luis after shooting my 78G I got to looking at used model 41's and thought holy cow they have a price tag on them.  There's a lot of other PB's that I'd pick out there besides that I'd really like to have without the high price tag.
I purchased mine 20 years ago... it’s been a safe queen for a long time. I better get to seeing what they’re going for. Thanks.
Title: Re: My latest vintage buy a Smith & Wesson 78G
Post by: Wayne52 on December 26, 2020, 11:31:30 PM
Well I did another video with the S&W 78G, this one here is 24 shots total, with 8 3 shot groups.  I did this one in 720P instead of the 640x480, it's definitely better with the HD video for sure, this will be the last plinking video that I do with this gun because it does use quite a bit more co2 than my Crosman 150's do.  I also just install another poppet in another one of my Crosman 150's (type 1) and I'll be doing a video of this one next.

 https://youtu.be/h7TmzwmRGyc