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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: B.Guns. on August 28, 2020, 06:21:38 PM
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Just received my new Akela from Crosman.
I've shot a couple hundred rounds through it and seems to be a good shooter. I mainly shoot 10 yards indoors since it's raining and windy and the groups were pretty much one hole. I shot a few 25yard groups and they were around 1/2". But it was raining and windy so I'm guessing they'll be a bit tighter when the weather gets better.
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Bryan, congratulations! The wood on yours is beautiful! Enjoy breaking her in and just shooting!
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Bryan, congratulations! The wood on yours is beautiful! Enjoy breaking her in and just shooting!
Thanks so much Randall!!
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Wooooo, you won the stock lottery, that is some STUNNING Turkish walnut for sure. Good luck, I bet it'll shoot great!
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Wooooo, you won the stock lottery, that is some STUNNING Turkish walnut for sure. Good luck, I bet it'll shoot great!
Thanks Zack!!. Now the owner needs to shoot great.(-8
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i have to agree. beautiful gun! keep us posted how it shoots, handles, cycles, all the pertinent info. inquiring minds want to know!
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i have to agree. beautiful gun! keep us posted how it shoots, handles, cycles, all the pertinent info. inquiring minds want to know!
Will do. The side lever is super smooth. The mags cycle very well.
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Yes sir, you really did win the wood lottery on that one... what a BEAUTY!! :o
Congratulations!
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Yes sir, you really did win the wood lottery on that one... what a BEAUTY!! :o
Congratulations!
Thanks Dave. The other side of the stock is a bit more tame. I'm happy with it so far.
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Wow you scored with the wood!!!
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Wow you scored with the wood!!!
Thanks Zack!!
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Congrats Bryan! I went to order That Case we talked about, they're outta stock till like October!!! :(
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Big congrats on a really nice looking Akela you got there Bryan !!! I REALLY like my Cayden 8)
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WOWZERS!!
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I am thinking of pulling the trigger on one in the future. One question for you? How quiet is this little Bullpup?
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Congrats Bryan! I went to order That Case we talked about, they're outta stock till like October!!! :(
Thanks so much Charlie. Those cases are in stock here. https://www.flambeauoutdoors.com/ar-tactical-gun-case.aspx (https://www.flambeauoutdoors.com/ar-tactical-gun-case.aspx)
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I am thinking of pulling the trigger on one in the future. One question for you? How quiet is this little Bullpup?
It's very quite. I was shooting mine indoors yesterday. You mostly hear the hammer.
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Big congrats on a really nice looking Akela you got there Bryan !!! I REALLY like my Cayden 8)
Thanks Wayne. I liked the video you made with your Cayden!!
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WOWZERS!!
:D ;D Thanks!!
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Congrats Bryan! I went to order That Case we talked about, they're outta stock till like October!!! :(
Thanks so much Charlie. Those cases are in stock here. https://www.flambeauoutdoors.com/ar-tactical-gun-case.aspx (https://www.flambeauoutdoors.com/ar-tactical-gun-case.aspx)
Thanks Bryan, ordered!
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Thanks Bryan, ordered!
Awesome Charlie. Glad to help.
Here's my last 3 groups outside as it's raining and 15-20 mph winds with bigger gusts. But it's like that here all the time. These are groups of 12 at 25 yards . Most of the flyers were my fault.
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I am thinking of pulling the trigger on one in the future. One question for you? How quiet is this little Bullpup?
It's very quite. I was shooting mine indoors yesterday. You mostly hear the hammer.
Bryan, just curious at what setting you are shooting to control report volume, especially indoors?
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I am thinking of pulling the trigger on one in the future. One question for you? How quiet is this little Bullpup?
It's very quite. I was shooting mine indoors yesterday. You mostly hear the hammer.
Bryan, just curious at what setting you are shooting to control report volume, especially indoors?
I have it set between full power and half power. It’s really quite even at full power. At low power it feels silent.
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Bryan, good to know, thx.
I was planning to see, on one fill, how many 14.3's will go through the barrel at the Lowest power setting for now. Gotta break in my neighbors to this PCP thing slowly...
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Just received my new Akela from Crosman.
I've shot a couple hundred rounds through it and seems to be a good shooter. I mainly shoot 10 yards indoors since it's raining and windy and the groups were pretty much one hole. I shot a few 25yard groups and they were around 1/2". But it was raining and windy so I'm guessing they'll be a bit tighter when the weather gets better.
WOW ! i really Like that stock , I wish it had the side lever like fx/hatsan by the trigger in .30... I have been waiting for the FX wild cat .30 sniper to get in with 700mm barrel , now I wished it had a stock like your akela came with ... ;D ;D ;)
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I did a few chrono strings today. I think the strings look quite good. The half power was really nice. What do you guys thinks.
Created: 09/03/20 02:31 PM
Description: Akela Full Power
Notes 1:
Notes 2:
Distance to Chrono(FT): 10.00
Ballistic Coefficient: 1.000
Bullet Weight(gr): 14.30
Temp: N/A °F
BP: N/A inHg
Altitude: 0.00
# FPS FT-LBS PF
24 933 27.64 13.34
23 930 27.47 13.30
22 942 28.18 13.47
21 941 28.12 13.46
20 948 28.54 13.56
19 953 28.84 13.63
18 957 29.09 13.69
17 962 29.39 13.76
16 966 29.64 13.81
15 963 29.45 13.77
14 972 30.00 13.90
13 980 30.50 14.01
12 975 30.19 13.94
11 980 30.50 14.01
10 985 30.81 14.09
9 982 30.62 14.04
8 987 30.94 14.11
7 992 31.25 14.19
6 989 31.06 14.14
5 996 31.50 14.24
4 999 31.69 14.29
3 998 31.63 14.27
2 1002 31.89 14.33
1 1010 32.40 14.44
Average: 972.6 FPS
SD: 23.0 FPS
Min: 930 FPS
Max: 1010 FPS
Spread: 80 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.1
True MV: 973 FPS
Created: 09/03/20 03:11 PM
Description: Akela 3/4 Power Mag 1
Notes 1:
Notes 2:
Distance to Chrono(FT): 10.00
Ballistic Coefficient: 1.000
Bullet Weight(gr): 14.30
Temp: N/A °F
BP: N/A inHg
Altitude: 0.00
# FPS FT-LBS PF
12 867 23.87 12.40
11 861 23.54 12.31
10 848 22.84 12.13
9 864 23.71 12.36
8 863 23.65 12.34
7 865 23.76 12.37
6 834 22.09 11.93
5 871 24.09 12.46
4 865 23.76 12.37
3 872 24.15 12.47
2 877 24.43 12.54
1 880 24.59 12.58
Average: 863.9 FPS
SD: 12.5 FPS
Min: 834 FPS
Max: 880 FPS
Spread: 46 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.1
True MV: 865 FPS
Created: 09/03/20 03:17 PM
Description: Akela 3/4 Power Mag 2
Notes 1:
Notes 2:
Distance to Chrono(FT): 10.00
Ballistic Coefficient: 1.000
Bullet Weight(gr): 14.00
Temp: N/A °F
BP: N/A inHg
Altitude: 0.00
# FPS FT-LBS PF
12 846 22.25 11.84
11 850 22.46 11.90
10 851 22.52 11.91
9 851 22.52 11.91
8 856 22.78 11.98
7 859 22.94 12.03
6 864 23.21 12.10
5 869 23.48 12.17
4 864 23.21 12.10
3 870 23.53 12.18
2 873 23.70 12.22
1 873 23.70 12.22
Average: 860.5 FPS
SD: 9.6 FPS
Min: 846 FPS
Max: 873 FPS
Spread: 27 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.1
True MV: 861 FPS
Created: 09/03/20 02:58 PM
Description: Akela Half Power
Notes 1:
Notes 2:
Distance to Chrono(FT): 10.00
Ballistic Coefficient: 1.000
Bullet Weight(gr): 14.00
Temp: N/A °F
BP: N/A inHg
Altitude: 0.00
# FPS FT-LBS PF
10 797 19.75 11.16
9 806 20.20 11.28
8 804 20.10 11.26
7 809 20.35 11.33
6 809 20.35 11.33
5 804 20.10 11.26
4 810 20.40 11.34
3 811 20.45 11.35
2 804 20.10 11.26
1 809 20.35 11.33
Average: 806.3 FPS
SD: 4.2 FPS
Min: 797 FPS
Max: 811 FPS
Spread: 14 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.1
True MV: 807 FPS
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I did a few chrono strings today. I think the strings look quite good. The half power was really nice. What do you guys thinks.
Created: 09/03/20 02:31 PM
Description: Akela Full Power
Notes 1:
Notes 2:
Distance to Chrono(FT): 10.00
Ballistic Coefficient: 1.000
Bullet Weight(gr): 14.30
Temp: N/A °F
BP: N/A inHg
Altitude: 0.00
# FPS FT-LBS PF
24 933 27.64 13.34
23 930 27.47 13.30
22 942 28.18 13.47
21 941 28.12 13.46
20 948 28.54 13.56
19 953 28.84 13.63
18 957 29.09 13.69
17 962 29.39 13.76
16 966 29.64 13.81
15 963 29.45 13.77
14 972 30.00 13.90
13 980 30.50 14.01
12 975 30.19 13.94
11 980 30.50 14.01
10 985 30.81 14.09
9 982 30.62 14.04
8 987 30.94 14.11
7 992 31.25 14.19
6 989 31.06 14.14
5 996 31.50 14.24
4 999 31.69 14.29
3 998 31.63 14.27
2 1002 31.89 14.33
1 1010 32.40 14.44
Average: 972.6 FPS
SD: 23.0 FPS
Min: 930 FPS
Max: 1010 FPS
Spread: 80 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.1
True MV: 973 FPS
Created: 09/03/20 03:11 PM
Description: Akela 3/4 Power Mag 1
Notes 1:
Notes 2:
Distance to Chrono(FT): 10.00
Ballistic Coefficient: 1.000
Bullet Weight(gr): 14.30
Temp: N/A °F
BP: N/A inHg
Altitude: 0.00
# FPS FT-LBS PF
12 867 23.87 12.40
11 861 23.54 12.31
10 848 22.84 12.13
9 864 23.71 12.36
8 863 23.65 12.34
7 865 23.76 12.37
6 834 22.09 11.93
5 871 24.09 12.46
4 865 23.76 12.37
3 872 24.15 12.47
2 877 24.43 12.54
1 880 24.59 12.58
Average: 863.9 FPS
SD: 12.5 FPS
Min: 834 FPS
Max: 880 FPS
Spread: 46 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.1
True MV: 865 FPS
Created: 09/03/20 03:17 PM
Description: Akela 3/4 Power Mag 2
Notes 1:
Notes 2:
Distance to Chrono(FT): 10.00
Ballistic Coefficient: 1.000
Bullet Weight(gr): 14.00
Temp: N/A °F
BP: N/A inHg
Altitude: 0.00
# FPS FT-LBS PF
12 846 22.25 11.84
11 850 22.46 11.90
10 851 22.52 11.91
9 851 22.52 11.91
8 856 22.78 11.98
7 859 22.94 12.03
6 864 23.21 12.10
5 869 23.48 12.17
4 864 23.21 12.10
3 870 23.53 12.18
2 873 23.70 12.22
1 873 23.70 12.22
Average: 860.5 FPS
SD: 9.6 FPS
Min: 846 FPS
Max: 873 FPS
Spread: 27 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.1
True MV: 861 FPS
Created: 09/03/20 02:58 PM
Description: Akela Half Power
Notes 1:
Notes 2:
Distance to Chrono(FT): 10.00
Ballistic Coefficient: 1.000
Bullet Weight(gr): 14.00
Temp: N/A °F
BP: N/A inHg
Altitude: 0.00
# FPS FT-LBS PF
10 797 19.75 11.16
9 806 20.20 11.28
8 804 20.10 11.26
7 809 20.35 11.33
6 809 20.35 11.33
5 804 20.10 11.26
4 810 20.40 11.34
3 811 20.45 11.35
2 804 20.10 11.26
1 809 20.35 11.33
Average: 806.3 FPS
SD: 4.2 FPS
Min: 797 FPS
Max: 811 FPS
Spread: 14 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.1
True MV: 807 FPS
Bryan, thanks for the chrono shot strings, very informative. On half power my Akela pushes out JSB 18.13s at ~720 fps avg., plenty enough for small game (if there ever was any where I live!)...and BTW, your projectile weight went down from 14.3 to 14.0 starting at the third string, what pellet ammo did you change to at that point? Just curious.
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...and also as far as perceived sound goes, with a Sumo attached to the front end the volume sounded exactly the same at 1/2 power as at lowest power (where 14.3 gr Crosman Premiers were chrono'ing in the low 500s)...
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Bryan, thanks for the chrono shot strings, very informative. On half power my Akela pushes out JSB 18.13s at ~720 fps avg., plenty enough for small game (if there ever was any where I live!)...and BTW, your projectile weight went down from 14.3 to 14.0 starting at the third string, what pellet ammo did you change to at that point? Just curious.
Thats really good with the JSBs. All the strings were done with Crosman HPs. My app truncated the .30 on a few strings.
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...and also as far as perceived sound goes, with a Sumo attached to the front end the volume sounded exactly the same at 1/2 power as at lowest power (where 14.3 gr Crosman Premiers were chrono'ing in the low 500s)...
I don'tfeel in need a moderator as its really quiet with just the shroud. But I don't have any neighbors. I didn't do a low chrono yet but I was shooting 10 yards at low yesterday and it was very accurate and got like 72 decent shots.
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I know I am gonna feel dumb very soon.... but here goes
What is PF?
and what is True MV?
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PF pressure fill ??? MV muzzle velocity ??? who knows ???
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It seems like my strings are not very good compared to other peoples. My trigger is sloppy and my strings are not good. I think I'm going to return this gun. I'm bummed mine is not up to par.
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It seems like my strings are not very good compared to other peoples. My trigger is sloppy and my strings are not good. I think I'm going to return this gun. I'm bummed mine is not up to par.
What you talkin about?
I thought your SD numbers were VERY impressive!
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It seems like my strings are not very good compared to other peoples. My trigger is sloppy and my strings are not good. I think I'm going to return this gun. I'm bummed mine is not up to par.
What you talkin about?
I thought your SD numbers were VERY impressive!
It seemed like my higher power strings were dropping off faster than other peoples strings. I like my half power string. I'm new to chronos so I could just be over reacting. I was hoping to hear from some people that have more experience. I really like this gun, I'm just want to make sure I have a good one. I really appreciate your comments. It helps. Thanks, Bryan
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After backing out my hammer spring adjuster all the way. Which was about 1/2 turn the best strings I got so far is in the half power mode. Heres 5 strings for 5 mags that I shot from 3000-1800 Let me know if these are ok or close to what you're getting. All shots were quite accurate at 25 yards.
Description: Akela1/2 Power detuned spring mag 1
Notes 1:
Notes 2:
Distance to Chrono(FT): 4.00
Ballistic Coefficient: 1.000
Bullet Weight(gr): 14.30
Temp: 76 °F
BP: 1007.64 inHg
Altitude: 9200.00
# FPS FT-LBS PF
12 833 22.04 11.91
11 824 21.56 11.78
10 828 21.77 11.84
9 830 21.88 11.87
8 826 21.67 11.81
7 826 21.67 11.81
6 824 21.56 11.78
5 830 21.88 11.87
4 828 21.77 11.84
3 825 21.62 11.80
2 822 21.46 11.75
1 823 21.51 11.77
Average: 826.6 FPS
SD: 3.3 FPS
Min: 822 FPS
Max: 833 FPS
Spread: 11 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.1
True MV: 827 FPS
Created: 09/04/20 02:35 PM
Description: Akela1/2 Power detuned spring mag 2
Notes 1:
Notes 2:
Distance to Chrono(FT): 4.00
Ballistic Coefficient: 1.000
Bullet Weight(gr): 14.30
Temp: 77 °F
BP: 1007.64 inHg
Altitude: 9200.00
# FPS FT-LBS PF
12 803 20.48 11.48
11 810 20.84 11.58
10 807 20.68 11.54
9 811 20.89 11.60
8 812 20.94 11.61
7 815 21.09 11.65
6 816 21.15 11.67
5 820 21.35 11.73
4 824 21.56 11.78
3 826 21.67 11.81
2 824 21.56 11.78
1 831 21.93 11.88
Average: 816.6 FPS
SD: 8.5 FPS
Min: 803 FPS
Max: 831 FPS
Spread: 28 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.1
True MV: 817 FPS
Description: Akela1/2 Power detuned spring mag 3
Notes 1:
Notes 2:
Distance to Chrono(FT): 4.00
Ballistic Coefficient: 1.000
Bullet Weight(gr): 14.30
Temp: 76 °F
BP: 1007.64 inHg
Altitude: 9200.00
# FPS FT-LBS PF
12 796 20.12 11.38
11 802 20.43 11.47
10 798 20.22 11.41
9 801 20.38 11.45
8 803 20.48 11.48
7 805 20.58 11.51
6 811 20.89 11.60
5 805 20.58 11.51
4 808 20.73 11.55
3 812 20.94 11.61
2 816 21.15 11.67
1 816 21.15 11.67
Average: 806.1 FPS
SD: 6.6 FPS
Min: 796 FPS
Max: 816 FPS
Spread: 20 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.1
True MV: 806 FPS
Description: Akela1/2 Power detuned spring mag 4
Notes 1:
Notes 2:
Distance to Chrono(FT): 4.00
Ballistic Coefficient: 1.000
Bullet Weight(gr): 14.30
Temp: 76 °F
BP: 1007.64 inHg
Altitude: 9200.00
# FPS FT-LBS PF
12 770 18.83 11.01
11 771 18.88 11.03
10 768 18.73 10.98
9 777 19.17 11.11
8 778 19.22 11.13
7 781 19.37 11.17
6 785 19.57 11.23
5 784 19.52 11.21
4 789 19.77 11.28
3 787 19.67 11.25
2 790 19.82 11.30
1 798 20.22 11.41
Average: 781.5 FPS
SD: 9.1 FPS
Min: 768 FPS
Max: 798 FPS
Spread: 30 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.1
True MV: 782 FPS
Description: Akela1/2 Power detuned spring mag 5
Notes 1:
Notes 2:
Distance to Chrono(FT): 4.00
Ballistic Coefficient: 1.000
Bullet Weight(gr): 14.30
Temp: 76 °F
BP: 1007.64 inHg
Altitude: 9200.00
# FPS FT-LBS PF
12 725 16.69 10.37
11 729 16.88 10.42
10 735 17.16 10.51
9 742 17.48 10.61
8 749 17.82 10.71
7 747 17.72 10.68
6 751 17.91 10.74
5 753 18.01 10.77
4 758 18.25 10.84
3 763 18.49 10.91
2 770 18.83 11.01
1 770 18.83 11.01
Average: 749.3 FPS
SD: 14.8 FPS
Min: 725 FPS
Max: 770 FPS
Spread: 45 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.1
True MV: 750 FPS
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It seems my Akela has developed a leak. The last 2 mornings its been between 2-300 psi lower than where I filled it to when I finished shooting.
I'm going to try a little soapy water around the gauge and foster fitting today. But otherwise I guess I'll be sending in for warranty work. This might explain why my shot strings were not as consistent as other owners strings
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Bummer to hear this Bryan. Let us know how it turns out, and thank goodness for Crosman’s five year warranty!
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It seems my Akela has developed a leak. The last 2 mornings its been between 2-300 psi lower than where I filled it to when I finished shooting.
I'm going to try a little soapy water around the gauge and foster fitting today. But otherwise I guess I'll be sending in for warranty work. This might explain why my shot strings were not as consistent as other owners strings
I'm not too worried about it. I've been messaging with a person from Crosman and I'm sure they'll take of it. It's a really slow leak. I tried to find it today but I couldn't. It shoots well. Though the last 2 nights its lost between 200-300 psi in about 16 hours each time. That might be why my strings are not as consistent as other peoples. I'm not sure. But it does sound like Crosman will help me with both issues.
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That's great they're going to get it resolved, would be nice if they made it expedient by sending a new gun rather than taking the time to repair this one ??? This way no matter they'll probably test what they send you prior to shipment.
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That's great they're going to get it resolved, would be nice if they made it expedient by sending a new gun rather than taking the time to repair this one ??? This way no matter they'll probably test what they send you prior to shipment.
Hey Wayne, and if Bryan likes the Akela wood stock he has now, he could ask if he can just send in the action...haw! ;D
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That's great they're going to get it resolved, would be nice if they made it expedient by sending a new gun rather than taking the time to repair this one ??? This way no matter they'll probably test what they send you prior to shipment.
Hey Wayne, and if Bryan likes the Akela wood stock he has now, he could ask if he can just send in the action...haw! ;D
If I was him and didn't want to give up the stock I'd call Crosman on the phone to see what can be done, they're very good about customer service.
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Thanks gentlemen. I'm planning on calling Crosman today. I'd like to keep my stock but it's more important for me to have a properly working rifle.