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Title: PP700 and moderators
Post by: triggerfest on August 20, 2020, 05:04:17 PM
Are there any moderators available that pair with the usage of the open sights ?
Title: Re: PP700 and moderators
Post by: USAFANG6799 on September 03, 2020, 07:09:23 AM
Looks like the PP700 people are ignoring you  :(

Here is what Knifemaker said:
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I have the ShoGun and Tohatsu and love them both, but they block out half of the reflex sight picture. With the ShoGun, man, talk about quiet!!!
I put a Rocker-1 on it and although not quite as effective, it is very light for off hand shooting.

https://donnyfl.com/
Title: Re: PP700 and moderators
Post by: Warburrito on September 03, 2020, 11:30:09 AM
What sort of threading are you looking for?  1/2-20 by way of an adapter?
Title: Re: PP700 and moderators
Post by: triggerfest on September 03, 2020, 01:31:18 PM
1/2 UNF, that is the adapter I will be buying from DonnyFL..

But looking at Matt's answer, a Donny ldc won't be an option. Maybe a Weihrauch one is ?
Title: Re: PP700 and moderators
Post by: JohnnyPDX on September 03, 2020, 01:53:54 PM
1/2 UNF, that is the adapter I will be buying from DonnyFL..

But looking at Matt's answer, a Donny ldc won't be an option. Maybe a Weihrauch one is ?

It would have to a VERY skinny LDC to use the factory sights.
Title: Re: PP700 and moderators
Post by: Ribbonstone on September 03, 2020, 02:06:10 PM
Looks like whatever LDC you put on would need to be 7/8" or skinnier to be able to see the issue sights.
Would lead to it being longer to be as effeictive as a fatter LDC....but it can work.
Title: Re: PP700 and moderators
Post by: Warburrito on September 03, 2020, 02:30:53 PM
I asked because I am thinking of making an offset 35mm moderator for my 2240 and PP750 with indexing washers for alignment.  We'll see how it works since the 1/2-20 threads will be different than typical indexing on an AR with 1/2-28, but I'm hoping an additional washer here or there will work itself out.  Slammed with actual work lately keeping me from anything fun, but when I finish it I'll let you know how it works.
Title: Re: PP700 and moderators
Post by: SILENT SQUIRREL on September 03, 2020, 03:28:17 PM
I asked because I am thinking of making an offset 35mm moderator for my 2240 and PP750 with indexing washers for alignment.  We'll see how it works since the 1/2-20 threads will be different than typical indexing on an AR with 1/2-28, but I'm hoping an additional washer here or there will work itself out.  Slammed with actual work lately keeping me from anything fun, but when I finish it I'll let you know how it works.

A bit pricey, but one of these may solve the indexing, Warburrito

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Threaded-Adapter-Female-1-2-20-UNF-To-Male-1-2-28-UNEF-/202636469486 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Threaded-Adapter-Female-1-2-20-UNF-To-Male-1-2-28-UNEF-/202636469486)
https://www.tacticalinc.com/catalog/product/5020-00243 (https://www.tacticalinc.com/catalog/product/5020-00243)

Hope this helps

Ed

Title: Re: PP700 and moderators
Post by: Ribbonstone on September 03, 2020, 07:08:02 PM
No reason off-set won't work….or a rectangular one...just harder to make.

Not my favorite iron sights...would probably mount a taller set of adjustable sights and go ahead and use a fatter round LDC.
Title: Re: PP700 and moderators
Post by: Warburrito on September 07, 2020, 04:50:05 PM
Played around a little last night and ended up with this...  I want to change a few support designs to be optimized for the angular baffle structure caused by being offset from the center, but its a promising start...
Title: Re: PP700 and moderators
Post by: 7624452 on September 07, 2020, 06:50:23 PM
Looks good.   ;D
Title: Re: PP700 and moderators
Post by: Hawkeye51 on September 07, 2020, 11:46:53 PM
Dave

Awsome looking moderator. I'm sure that's going to generate some interest.
Title: Re: PP700 and moderators
Post by: noshbar on September 09, 2020, 04:01:06 PM
If you're talking about the S-A version, then I modelled and 3D printed out a moderator that works well for me (despite being a terrible inner design)!
It's skinny, but has the cylinder at the bottom to make up for it, and to follow the shape of the rest of the pistol. Also provides a slideable dust cover for the fill port.
And it doesn't get in the way of the sights at all!

Now, where I am, there's a 10J limit, so I'm not sure how well it will work on full power versions, but for me I got:
unsilenced: ~108 dB
silenced: ~93 dB

The rules say I can't tell you how to make one, but my nickname is dirkderkdurk on MyMiniFactory if you're interested.
Title: Re: PP700 and moderators
Post by: Rallyshark on September 10, 2020, 07:53:09 AM
If you're talking about the S-A version, then I modelled and 3D printed out a moderator that works well for me (despite being a terrible inner design)!
It's skinny, but has the cylinder at the bottom to make up for it, and to follow the shape of the rest of the pistol. Also provides a slideable dust cover for the fill port.
And it doesn't get in the way of the sights at all!

Now, where I am, there's a 10J limit, so I'm not sure how well it will work on full power versions, but for me I got:
unsilenced: ~108 dB
silenced: ~93 dB

The rules say I can't tell you how to make one, but my nickname is dirkderkdurk on MyMiniFactory if you're interested.

While I can't comment on effectiveness, I gotta say that looks really cool!
Title: Re: PP700 and moderators
Post by: noshbar on September 10, 2020, 10:49:59 AM
Thank you, much appreciated!

Forgot to mention that there's a similar slant at the rear of the moderator, so that there's a gap you can see the air gauge through.

And yeah, this was my first attempt, I could certainly do a lot better with it.
Title: Re: PP700 and moderators
Post by: mrbulk on September 10, 2020, 08:13:11 PM
I like offset moderators. Not just the cool look, but the engineering that must go on inside to make the baffles effective...