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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: Marc In Iowa on July 14, 2020, 11:29:45 PM
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This rifle uses 2x12 gram COČ cartridges. In my rifle, now the one farthest in is stuck; won't drop out.
I've tried tapping, shaking and now a rod with super glue to try to pull it out. No go. The glue doesn't grip enough to pull out the cartridge.
Got any ideas?
Still shoots fine but at 1/2 capacity for COČ.
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This rifle uses 2x12 gram COČ cartridges. In my rifle, now the one farthest in is stuck; won't drop out.
I've tried tapping, shaking and now a rod with super glue to try to pull it out. No go. The glue doesn't grip enough to pull out the cartridge.
Got any ideas?
Still shoots fine but at 1/2 capacity for COČ.
Clamp gun with barrel pointing straight down swab end of stuck powerlet with denatured alchohol, get I/2" wood dowel rod, countersink one end with 1/2" bit, mix small batch
of 5 minute epoxy, place epoxy in center of dowel, , hold dowel in place for 10 minutes......remove powerlet. Next time, put a drop of 3-in1 oil on the cart piercing tip! 8) dave
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Several of my SPA C02 guns had that issue. Then I received the CP2 Master Blaster pistol/carbine kit. I noticed an oblong hole in the tube near the nose of the cart. I can see the cart through the hole. When a cart gets stuck I just reach in there with something and pop the cart out. Now all my C02 guns (which don't pressurize the tube) have a hole in the tube courtesy of my drill... ;)
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Throw it in the freezer then try
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Next time, put a drop of 3-in1 oil on the cart piercing tip!
I always place a drop of Pellgun oil on the top of each cartridge to keep the COČ seals lubed.
Thanks all for the ideas!
I did finally get the stuck cartridge out!
What finally did it was a flat bladed screwdriver with a very long shank (7.75"). I was able to get the flat blade down the pressure tube and gently wiggle the COČ cartridge first on the left and on the right a few times and ... it just dropped out!
I had thought of this approach earlier but just couldn't find my screwdriver. After trying other approaches (Super Glue) I made a determined effort to locate the tool. Found it and in minutes had it fixed.
The "right tool for the right job." 🙂👍
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Another tip that can save you some grief down the road. Store the gun empty when done shooting. Remove the CO2 carts. As for being stuck I use a mechanics magnet to get my stuck carts out. The one I have fits down the tube of all my guns, you just have shop around to find one that is the same diameter as the cart.
https://www.harborfreight.com/15-lb-capacity-telescoping-magnetic-pickup-tool-95933.html (https://www.harborfreight.com/15-lb-capacity-telescoping-magnetic-pickup-tool-95933.html)
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Im curious what you think of that 10/22 air rifle? Is it a repeater or a double action trigger? Can you cock it and have a light enough trigger for hunting? Is it accurate?
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Im curious what you think of that 10/22 air rifle? Is it a repeater or a double action trigger? Can you cock it and have a light enough trigger for hunting? Is it accurate?
Short answer: I like it!
10 shot repeater
Single/Double action
Single action pull, hard!
Cock the bolt, pull then nice!
Accuracy:
I'm spoiled by my 177 Hammerli 850. On many decent days I can shoot .4" 10-shot groups at 25 yds bag rested (GTOs).
The Ruger is closer to 1" groups at 25 yds braced against my window sill, not as accurate as the Hammerli but still fun to shoot.
The Ruger is so light and handy to hold, it's probably my most fun air gun to shoot. On single action you can shoot Bam Bam Bam 10 times if you like. Fun! It's good for what it's good for. It's nice to carry with a sling. Spare mags (small and cheap) and spare COČ easy to carry in your pocket. I consider it a good value for it's price.
The Hammerli can hit 5" targets at 85 yds pretty reliably. The Ruger? Nope.
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Im curious what you think of that 10/22 air rifle?
I love it. I have had one since last fall and shot about 8K pellets through it so far.
Is it a repeater or a double action trigger?
It has a heck of a pull if you don't cock it first, but you can do it if you want. I shoot it that way very rarely, though.
IIRC is was something like 14 pounds if you don't cock first, and 4 pounds if you do.
Can you cock it and have a light enough trigger for hunting?
Yes, but it only delivers 5-6 fpe, so unless you're out mole hunting, you'll just tick off the target.
Is it accurate?
Yes, very much.
I'm not the greatest shot, but in a mounted setup it will do a dime sized area at 10m. The first 5 shots are usually a little wild, then you get about 50 that are very good, then the last 10-15 you start to see some drop.
The gun is very light, just like the .22.
I use Crosman Premier Heavy 10.5gr domed in mine. The only mod I've made so far (aside from bolting on a Weaver rail and scope) is to lightly drill out (just a few swipes of a bit) the pellet holes in the magazine. It lets them pop out a little easier and gave about 10fps improvement.
I just wish it would take a wood stock. If they had one, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. But if this one ever craps out, I'd buy another just as quickly.
Andy
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I use a mechanics magnet to get my stuck carts out ... fits down the tube
Know the O.D. of the magnet?
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I love it.
... lightly drill out (just a few swipes of a bit) the pellet holes in the magazine.
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Nice idea!
The mags are so inexpensive it'd be easy to experiment until you set up a couple that are just right.
They're TIGHT (I believe to keep pellets from dropping out). I seat mine with a BIC Click pen tip.
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Has anyone took a peak inside theirs yet?
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Has anyone took a peak inside theirs yet?
Nice pics.
https://www.airgunforum.ca/forums/topic85962.html (https://www.airgunforum.ca/forums/topic85962.html)
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I use a mechanics magnet to get my stuck carts out ... fits down the tube
Know the O.D. of the magnet?
Mechanic's Magnet 1/2 " Tip OD. Tape up the swivel head, and you're good to go! dave
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https://www.airgunforum.ca/forums/topic85962.html (https://www.airgunforum.ca/forums/topic85962.html)
That has got to be the most useful cross-link I've come upon in ages. THANK YOU!
I wouldn't mind getting mine to shoot a few more rounds per cartridge.
Andy
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got to be the most useful cross-link I've come upon in ages.
My exact thought when I found it originally. I was looking for a tear down discussion to see if it would help me unstick the COČ cartridge.
Forums and the Internet rock!
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https://www.airgunforum.ca/forums/topic85962.html (https://www.airgunforum.ca/forums/topic85962.html)
That has got to be the most useful cross-link I've come upon in ages. THANK YOU!
I wouldn't mind getting mine to shoot a few more rounds per cartridge.
Andy
Hi guys, I'm airmec on the CAF, if you have questions ask away, I'll do my best to help. Andy, I replied to you on the CAF ;).
I also made a thread here on the GTA: https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=174133.msg155970916#msg155970916 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=174133.msg155970916#msg155970916)
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Another tip that can save you some grief down the road. Store the gun empty when done shooting. Remove the CO2 carts. As for being stuck I use a mechanics magnet to get my stuck carts out. The one I have fits down the tube of all my guns, you just have shop around to find one that is the same diameter as the cart.
https://www.harborfreight.com/15-lb-capacity-telescoping-magnetic-pickup-tool-95933.html (https://www.harborfreight.com/15-lb-capacity-telescoping-magnetic-pickup-tool-95933.html)
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Great minds think alike
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I'm airmec on the CAF ...
Thank you SO much for that excellent Ruger 10/22 tear down documentation.
Wow!
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... if you have questions ask away, I'll do my best to help.
How does the COČ pressure vessel (tube) disconnect from the upper casting? Does it unscrew?
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... if you have questions ask away, I'll do my best to help.
How does the COČ pressure vessel (tube) disconnect from the upper casting? Does it unscrew?
Nothing to unscrew once all the trigger parts are removed, you just lift the pressure tube/brass tube/valve assembly off the casting as a unit and separate them by pulling them apart. Pic 31 shows the parts in place, pic 35 shows them out. There's an Oring backed by a washer on each end of the brass tube, held in place by two prongs built into the casting. Not a sealing method to use with HPA, but seems efficient for that application.
And you're welcome Mark, very glad if that's of some help to you :D.