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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Big Bore AirGun Gate => Topic started by: pindog2000 on September 01, 2011, 03:26:51 PM
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HEY fellas got a question about a 9mm airforce condor? Is it a possible build?this will be my last airgun after my Haley qb 457.thanks
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Very possible and may have been done already. I know one person on the Talon Forum took his to 45cal with a custom valve for lots of air flow. Someone tried 50 cal, but there isn't enough barrel wall left to be safe. 45cal would be the max safe limit without a new frame build.
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php/topic,14880.msg126775.html#msg126775 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php/topic,14880.msg126775.html#msg126775)
I know Jerry bought that 308 in the link has said that he would sell it.
I don't see why Randy at R&L wouldn't be thinking about a 357 or have one in the works once the 308 is fully out the door. I thought that I saw someone asking that on his Facebook page, but I don't see it now.
He is super busy with the 308 and other projects, so don't swarm him.
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9mm AirForce builds have been around for years.....to bad a lot of the old infor from years back is no longer around. Aftermarket valves and such for various bigbore calibers are available for AirForce rifles, along with 9mm barrels from LW (though I suggest you go with .357 instead if possible, just for the bigger lead boolit selection).
I had the privilege of getting to shoot the most powerful AirForce build on the planet (600+fpe .458 built by CygnusX).....brought my chrony and the heaviest .45 slugs I could find (500grainers) just to get an idea of what this rifles maximum fpe potential was (50+ more fpe than the 450grainers he was using put out) and WOW that beast had some serious muzzle flip!
You can get a whole lot of power out of AirForce rifles up to .45 caliber for sure!
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Sweet always wanted a condor and always wanted a 9mm so after my Haley qbS are i will work on that.,,
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Pinney,
There are a lot of Barrels out there for the AF Condor / Talon ,There a Guy on 54 named " Blodnob " He makes
custom Big bore valve, Heavy hammer/spring & custom side-cocker breech For the AF Guns.Glover Walter also has a
.457 & 9MM Condor Barrels. 9MM & .457 Career Barrels work Great. Pinney ask Tworr to talk to Randy @ R&L Airguns
and see if he will do a 9MM or .457 with a Career Barrel on a Condor. Randy just did a .308 Caliber.
Jetman
9mm Condor
23" Career 9mm barrel
Blodknob custom Big bore valve, Heavy hammer/spring & custom side-cocker breech
Drooped & canted ETAC with gauge & foster fill
68ci JDS Airman tank
WOK bits...{butt, disc, Trigger Guard & AR grip adapter}
Tango down AR Battle Grip
and still have a few more bits to wait on...{Integrated shroud, trigger shoe and some frame mods, ect}
will eventually get fully re-coated in Ceramic.
Speculative performance? In excess of 200 foot pounds once its totally sorted & with a reasonably decent shot count for a big bore due to the much larger tank capacity. Accuracy as well should be excellent given the known performance of the 9mm Career barrels.
Here is another 9mm built on a Talon frame from the Classifieds with pleanty of pix, probably still for sale.
http://www.network54.com/Forum/79574/message/1261693584/9mm+Air+Force+Talon+For+Sale (http://www.network54.com/Forum/79574/message/1261693584/9mm+Air+Force+Talon+For+Sale)
You can even get a custom conversion kit that will allow you to blast arrows out of Condors in the 400FPS range. These truly are extremely adaptable weapons. My biggest beef with them is the somewhat cheesy trigger work, then again its still far betterthan a stock Crosman 22XX or Disco.
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I will look into that.