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Airguns by Make and Model => Weihrauch Airguns => Topic started by: EMrider on August 27, 2011, 08:42:31 PM
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I'm new to GTA and have been "read only" for the past couple months. Lots of interesting and helpful info here.
I'm also relatively new to AGs. Bought a Gamo Whisper about four months ago. After about 1,500 rounds, I concluded that was a mistake. For my needs, the Gamo is too powerful, too loud and not accurate.
After much reading, I bought an R7. Fedex delivered it this morning. Holy smokes. After about 100 rounds, I feel like an idiot for not buying the R7 in the first place. For reasons that escape me now, I picked the Gamo over the R7......
Oh well, better late than never. The R7 is an industrial work of art. Most importantly, it is stunningly accurate. On my 25yd backyard range, I can stack pellets in a way I never imagined was possible. It has minimal kick, and is also very very quiet.
The R7 simply makes the entire shooting experience more relaxing and enjoyable. Most here probably already know this, but until today I was clueless. What a great passtime.
I'll keep working on improving my accuracy with the Gamo. The challenge is sort of fun. But for 90% of my shooting needs, I'll grab the R7.
The temptation to modify is always there with me.....but I'm going to enjoy the R7 in bone stock form for a few thousand shots first.
R
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Welcome to the GTA. I had a gamo big cat and I switched to a TX-200. Huge difference. Enjoy.
Matt
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Welcome. I purchased an R7 about six weeks ago. It's my first air rifle. I love it. It's a joy to shoot.
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Welcome to the GTA and congratulations on finding a gun that suits you so well.
Richard
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Congrats! and Welcome to the GTA!
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You might want to modify it now with the cocking arm insert from JM so you avoid galling of the tube.
http://www.airrifleheadquarters.com/catalog/item/251488/3216416.htm (http://www.airrifleheadquarters.com/catalog/item/251488/3216416.htm)
And welcome.
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The R7 is very nice and definitely a joy to plink and target shoot with, especially at 25 yards, nothing beats it. I love mine and I can shoot it all day.
Look at the bright side, it's a good thing you got the Gamo first, now you appreciate just how awesome the quality and worksmanship of Weinrauch. By the way, I did the same thing so don't feel so bad. :)
Happy shooting.
-GB
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I appreciate the welcomes. Also glad to see that other AGers have followed a similar route to the R7. The difference really is far more than I could have imagined.
On this cocking arm insert, where and how exactly does it go on the R7? Any tools or special AG knowledge required?
Thanks.
R
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Welcome to the GTA, yes you gonna wanna do some research on the disassembly of this rifle, its pretty easy to tear it down but their are some little things you need to watch for like the small nut inside the trigger group that free floats after you remove the small screw in the back of the trigger group, yes the gun needs to disassembled to install and fit the cocking arm insert correctly and yes its very important to install this insert to protect the compression tube. :P
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Welcome to the GTA.
I have the "plain jane" sister...HW30s. Same rifle with Rekord trigger just without the checkered stock. Awesome shooters and I can shoot mine so accurately I made it into a "match rifle" of sorts with Walther match sights. Just a great small package!
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Here are a few useful links:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/thread/1166716366/Results+from+R7+tune+w-JM+parts-+%2APICS%2A (http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/thread/1166716366/Results+from+R7+tune+w-JM+parts-+%2APICS%2A)
http://web.archive.org/web/20060530131152/www.airguninfo.com/tuningther7.mht (http://web.archive.org/web/20060530131152/www.airguninfo.com/tuningther7.mht)
http://straightshooterschat.com/showthread.php?230-Rekord-Trigger-Tuning.-What-NOT-to-do.-(-This-is-long-) (http://straightshooterschat.com/showthread.php?230-Rekord-Trigger-Tuning.-What-NOT-to-do.-(-This-is-long-))
http://www.airguns.net/general_rekord_trigger.php (http://www.airguns.net/general_rekord_trigger.php)
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Welcome to the GTA. You made a fine choice for your second air rifle. As you well know, Weihrauch made Beeman guns are really sweet to shoot, especially the docile R7/HW30. The Rekord trigger is the best trigger I've tried so far and I think is a big factor for these guns' accuracy. Please let us know how your shooting goes with your new acquisition. Enjoy it! ;D
P.S. Watch the video stickied at the top of this gate to see just how Weihrauch guns are made in the factory. Its a great insider's view of just how these guns are made so well!
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Welcome to GTA. :)
I've heard really good things about the R7 for a few years now. Eventually, I figure I'll end up finding one to buy, lol.
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Welcome to the GTA,and good choice on the R7.Lizzie, Don't think about it too long first chance you can get one you wont regret it.
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EMrider
WELCOME and Congrats on the R7. It's really not "fair" to compare the 2 against one another. ;)
Definately 2 different camps. No problems though....
Since you have it. You can tune your Gamo with a milder spring//seal kit, which will help on the noise, accuracy and shooting pleasure Along with the famous GRT trigger, keeping the screws tight, and stuffing or filling the buttstock, these changes will improve your Whisper. It won't be a R7, (the trigger is awesome),but will be something you'll enjoy. If you go to the Gamo & Spanish Gate, you'll see posts from folks who have done these mods themselves and are pleased with the changes.
Again, Welcome and Congrats!!!!
Edit: I'd leave the R7 stock from the factory.
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Good info in those links, thanks.
And the video on how and where these guns are made is fascinating.
I now understand why people get so interested and excited about 'groups'. Last night I was able to get 10 shots inside of an inch at 25 yards. That's a personal best by a wide margin.
Thanks.
R
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congrat's and welcome to the GTA!!!
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EMrider... when you get tired of your whisper let me know... maybe i'll give you an offer you can't refuse...lol. I had a couple of them and had a ton of fun tuning them... and i have been itching to get another for that purpose. just cant justify getting a new one for "tuning, R&D"... let me know.
about the R7. best buy ever... had a .177, then got a .20, then another .177 (the first one was a modern one without the open sights... so when a used one with them came up i could not resist.)
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EMrider... when you get tired of your whisper let me know... maybe i'll give you an offer you can't refuse...lol. I had a couple of them and had a ton of fun tuning them... and i have been itching to get another for that purpose. just cant justify getting a new one for "tuning, R&D"... let me know.
about the R7. best buy ever... had a .177, then got a .20, then another .177 (the first one was a modern one without the open sights... so when a used one with them came up i could not resist.)
Thanks, but I'm planning to make the Whisper a project gun and do some tinkering. With a new scope and very careful trigger control, it is reasonably accurate. Mine also has the nitro piston. I'll try one of the GRT triggers and if that does not make a difference, then I may get in touch with you.............
On the R7, do most folks shoot them stock, or get then tuned?
Right out of the box the gun is amazing. For now, my plan is to just shoot and enjoy the gun as is.
R
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If you don't wanna void the warranty, leave it as is and enjoy it. Then you can work on it later.
ENJOY YOUR NEW SHOOTER!!!!
;)
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you may not need to tune it but you need the cocking arm insert! :P
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the trigger should make a great difference if set up right. as per tuning the r7... i shot mine untuned for 2 years and it is a very smooth gun. i guess you could have it tuned, but i see no reason. if you want more speed then get a hw50... and if you want smoother, well, i cant think them being any smoother. maybe spend some time playing with the trigger... that is the only thing that made mine more enjoyable. Great little gun.
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If you don't wanna void the warranty, leave it as is and enjoy it. Then you can work on it later.
ENJOY YOUR NEW SHOOTER!!!!
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& with a limited lifetime warranty it'll be a while :), but it's so good stock.
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you may not need to tune it but you need the cocking arm insert! :P
Insert is on the way, thanks.
I'll give some thought to a tune after a few thousand rounds.
Very helpful input everyone. Thanks.
R
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you may not need to tune it but you need the cocking arm insert! :P
Insert is on the way, thanks.
I'll give some thought to a tune after a few thousand rounds.
Very helpful input everyone. Thanks.
R
Give us an update on how the insert installation goes.
I haven't done mine although I have the insert. Even with all the reference links, I couldn't understand where & how to install it.
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it gos inside the slot on the cocking arm between the compression tube! :P
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you may not need to tune it but you need the cocking arm insert! :P
Insert is on the way, thanks.
I'll give some thought to a tune after a few thousand rounds.
Very helpful input everyone. Thanks.
R
Give us an update on how the insert installation goes.
I haven't done mine although I have the insert. Even with all the reference links, I couldn't understand where & how to install it.
Yesterday I took the R7 apart to inspect the cocking lever and compression chamber, after putting 300 or so shots thru the gun. All looks good. No evidence of rubbing or any metal on metal contact. In total, the gun has 500-700 shots.
If I do notice any rubbing, I'll install the insert, although I'm also unsure exactly where it goes.
While apart, I did some fiddling with the trigger adjustments. Geez, those adjustments are sensitive. You can set the trigger to fire with extremely light pressure. The stock settings seem to work best for me.
Also got a lesson yesterday in pellet trajectory and holdover. My regular target distance is 15-20 yards. Yesterday, I was shooting 35 and 50 yards. A new experience for me with the lower powered R7. Good fun. After a few dozen shots, I was able to consistently hit a one inch square at both distances. Chairgun trajectory plots were quite accurate.
R
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it gos inside the slot on the cocking arm between the compression tube! :P
A photo would be helpful. Maybe if I took the gun apart I'd see where it goes. Does the disassembly for installing the insert go as far a needing a spring compressor? There's a slot along the length of the insert. Does the slot fit over something like the cocking arm?