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Airguns by Make and Model => Beeman Airguns => Topic started by: Septicdeath on April 12, 2020, 07:45:12 PM
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Double barrel
Other dual barrel rifles all feature interchangeable barrels that the you can change. But they all hold just one barrel at a time. The Double Barrel rifle has two barrels that are mounted to the rifle. When this spring-piston rifle is cocked, both barrels pivot downward, being held their breech by the base block. The barrel are steal shrouded by I believe it aluminum. There is a .177 dual and a .22/.177 caliber. Mine the later.
I would think you would get decent groups with the dual .177 but with the dual .22/.177 I tried everything to get a group without success. I changed the valve out to shoot each barrel single. Now it's a decent shooting rifle.
A different and unusual rifle that is better shooting than most of the reviews gave it credit. Definitely fun different and brings a smile to faces., https://youtu.be/03vd-8wB7kQ
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I was watching both the wood and synthetic stock versions on Amazon for quite awhile and was very tempted to grab the synthetic stock version when it dropped to ~$80. After reading many reviews, I decided to NOT pull that trigger. I understood that firing both barrels at once meant "shotgun" accuracy and shooting one barrel at a time could be very accurate.
I treat my airguns like tools and use them to shoot targets, hunt, and pest. I could not find a reason to add this curious rifle to my rack other than "it's unique".
The wood stock on that one does look a lot nicer than the synthetic stock version :)
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It is unique. That's why I bought it. I have the same model John has with both caliber .177/.22. It's the Model 2016W. The other, both barrels .177 and shoots both barrel at the same time only is the 2016S. The one with the plastic tactical looking stock I think is 2016. Not sure. I've had the 2016W since they first came out.
As John said, they come with the valve that shoots both barrels at the same time installed. I removed it and threw it along with the rear sight in the parts bin. Seems to me pushing the same swept volume thru two transfer ports would be about half the power.
I installed the valve that let you select the barrel you want and mounted a 3-9X40 mildot scope. Can't remember the pellets but I found the .177 it liked and zeroed the cross hairs for that then found a .22 that hit two mildots low. Works great. I think a mildot scope is the best way to get the most out of accuracy from both barrels.
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I did the exact opposite and sighted for the .22. The .177 shoots a tad high but just adjust your aim. The .22 is very accurate.
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I did the exact opposite and sighted for the .22. The .177 shoots a tad high but just adjust your aim. The .22 is very accurate.
I noticed most of your guns are .22 or bigger. You probably think of .22 as primary. I think of .177 as primary. The only .22's I have are dual cal's or if it was the only caliber I could get the gun in.
The .177 can be as accurate as the .22 barrel but it has to have it own sight or mildot. That's why the open sight is 'L' shaped, two sights. Look for a pellet that hits directly above the .22.
I thought about a laser, if I could see the red dot in the scope I could zero the red dot on POI.
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I did the exact opposite and sighted for the .22. The .177 shoots a tad high but just adjust your aim. The .22 is very accurate.
I noticed most of your guns are .22 or bigger. You probably think of .22 as primary. I think of .177 as primary. The only .22's I have are dual cal's or if it was the only caliber I could get the gun in.
The .177 can be as accurate as the .22 barrel but it has to have it own sight or mildot. That's why the open sight is 'L' shaped, two sights. Look for a pellet that hits directly above the .22.
I thought about a laser, if I could see the red dot in the scope I could zero the red dot on POI.
Only have two .177 this one and a crossman pumper.I just prefer. 22
Have one .20 I wish there were more guns made in .20
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While I have considered one of the Beeman dual caliber rifles with two separate barrles, this double barrel doesn't appeal to me. But, that's just me.
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Wish they made more .20 ammo.
Another option I thought about was a Williams peep sight middle of the 11mm scope grooves and tall see-thru scope rings for the scope. Zero the peep for the .22 barrel and the scope for the .177 barrel or vice verse.
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It's an interesting gun. Thanks for doing the video. I always wondered how you switched between calibers. What kind of power does the gun produce? There is one at a local pawn shop with the wood stock. I haven't asked what calibers but they are asking way too much for it. I keep watching to see if they come down on the price.
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It's an interesting gun. Thanks for doing the video. I always wondered how you switched between calibers. What kind of power does the gun produce? There is one at a local pawn shop with the wood stock. I haven't asked what calibers but they are asking way too much for it. I keep watching to see if they come down on the price.
Haven't chono it but it seem to have some power. It goes through 1 inch pine at 30 yards.
How much does the pawn shop want? Make him a offer if he turns it down walk away. Then do the same in a week. I have a very good friend that owns a pawnshop he pays 1/3 + or - of his asking price.
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Found my notes for the Beeman 2016W double barrel .177/.22 from when I first bought it.
.177 RWS Hobby 7.0 grs. w/c 863 fps avg
.177 JSB 10.34grs dome 688
.22 RWS Hobby 11.9grs w/c 692
.22 JSB 13.73 grs w/c 622
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I've got a dual in .177 in wood, and a .177/.22 in the synthetic stock. Has anyone tried putting the switchable valve on the .177 only to permit a single shot at a time? I'm not a mechanically minded person, I'm much better at fixing broken arms than mechanical stuff, but I would think that would be a fairly easy thing to do for our community to come up with. I got the duals for the uniqueness, but keeping track of 2 points of impact becomes kind of an exercise in futility. The .177/.22 gives you an easy decision process, but, .177 X 2 is not all that unique anymore.
Thanks folks,
Doc
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I've got a dual in .177 in wood, and a .177/.22 in the synthetic stock. Has anyone tried putting the switchable valve on the .177 only to permit a single shot at a time? I'm not a mechanically minded person, I'm much better at fixing broken arms than mechanical stuff, but I would think that would be a fairly easy thing to do for our community to come up with. I got the duals for the uniqueness, but keeping track of 2 points of impact becomes kind of an exercise in futility. The .177/.22 gives you an easy decision process, but, .177 X 2 is not all that unique anymore.
Thanks folks,
Doc
It should work. They are the same valve. Remove the nob then the two screws. Put the nob back on. Pull out the valve. Put the nob one the other insert the single shot valve. Remove nob and install plate and screws. Reinstall nob. Should work. The only difference between the two rifles are the barrel configuration.
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Sorry guys, want work. If you google a pic of the 2016S .177/.177 you'll see there's no hole, screws or plate for a valve. Probably just has to transfer port in the front end of the compression chamber.
Friend of mine has one. I thought about this before though. Find a nail with a thin enough head to let the barrels close. Slide it into one of the barrels and you have a single shot that'll get all the swept volume of air from the compression chamber. I have seen .177 blanks.
A fired one? I don't know if it would fit. Mendoza makes .177 blanks to push .177 pellets out of some little single shot rifles and pistols they make. Might work.
Shot my 2016W .177/.22 today. Shot a couple other guns--a .22 Norica Massimo and a Gamo Silent Cat with a GRT trigger. It was okay but nothing to brag on. It was chilly--couldn't relax and get the zen thing going. Later.
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Sorry guys, want work. If you google a pic of the 2016S .177/.177 you'll see there's no hole, screws or plate for a valve. Probably just has to transfer port in the front end of the compression chamber.
Friend of mine has one. I thought about this before though. Find a nail with a thin enough head to let the barrels close. Slide it into one of the barrels and you have a single shot that'll get all the swept volume of air from the compression chamber. I have seen .177 blanks.
A fired one? I don't know if it would fit. Mendoza makes .177 blanks to push .177 pellets out of some little single shot rifles and pistols they make. Might work.
Shot my 2016W .177/.22 today. Shot a couple other guns--a .22 Norica Massimo and a Gamo Silent Cat with a GRT trigger. It was okay but nothing to brag on. It was chilly--couldn't relax and get the zen thing going. Later.
I should have looked there is no valve in the duel .177 Only on the .22 / .177 configuration.
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Sorry guys, want work. If you google a pic of the 2016S .177/.177 you'll see there's no hole, screws or plate for a valve. Probably just has to transfer port in the front end of the compression chamber.
Friend of mine has one. I thought about this before though. Find a nail with a thin enough head to let the barrels close. Slide it into one of the barrels and you have a single shot that'll get all the swept volume of air from the compression chamber. I have seen .177 blanks.
A fired one? I don't know if it would fit. Mendoza makes .177 blanks to push .177 pellets out of some little single shot rifles and pistols they make. Might work.
Shot my 2016W .177/.22 today. Shot a couple other guns--a .22 Norica Massimo and a Gamo Silent Cat with a GRT trigger. It was okay but nothing to brag on. It was chilly--couldn't relax and get the zen thing going. Later.
BUMMER, but, as I've told lots of waitresses when the coffee is late, I've held people's lives in my hands as they passed from this world to the next, you are probably not going to make my day real bad!
Doc