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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Hunting Gate => Topic started by: Nomadic Pirate on April 09, 2020, 01:08:27 PM
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To get to this wonderful location I had to drive through a big ranch,
couple week ago some idiot hunter shot a cow on the ranch, and I got word yesterday that I won't be able to use that land anymore for hunting.
This is huge, since we can't hunt state lands with airguns here, that immense property was an incredible gift that is now lost forever.
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You are not alone my friend, I have lost several permissions because of somebody else's stupidity. Some people will never learn. Sorry to hear about that Manny. Hopefully you will be able to find another place to enjoy.
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My brother and I had the best spot you could ever want many years ago on private land for deer and the same thing happened someone shot one of her cows quartered it up and left the rest. Needless to she she closed hunting entirely and I can't say as I blame her. The sad part was she was a really nice lady too. Since then you need written permission to hunt private land now. I do have another spot that I can hunt (35 acres) but it's a 40 mile drive too, maybe I'll get out there and scope it out one of these days.
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Manny, that's really crushing.
You have so many stories from there. I know that is hard to take.
Some hunters buy hunting insurance. I don't know where to find it, but I've heard of it. In the event that livestock is lost the insurance pays for the cow.
I don't know how much a cow costs in Hawaii, but they're about $1500 here now.
Hunter
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The sad part is that it probably somebody on their first hunt. That's not rare.
Bob
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Back in the early 90s I had about two hundred acres of woodland to hunt for whatever was in season. The owner gave me a special key for the gate. The adjoining property was a 400 acre horse farm that looked like a high class golf course. I went out one morning to do a bit of deer scouting and my key didn't work. I drove to the house to find out what happened. The owner told me someone cut the locking chain, went though the property and left ever gate open. It took the farm hands 16 straight hours of work to round up all the loose horses and get them back to the right fields and corrals. Needless to say that property was off limits from that point on.
Sorry about your permission Manny, but it never fails that one idiot can ruin it for everyone.
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I'm sorry to hear the news about your permission, it only takes one person to screw it up for the good folks out there that respect the land, leave no trace, messes, damaged property, etc. Maybe give the landowners some time and approach them again in the near future for hunting access.
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I hope that they know it wasn't you Manny.
Hunter
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Sad to hear. Best wishes finding an alternate spot.
There is always a bad apple or covidiot that will do something incredibly careless or stupid and spoil it for those folks that care and are responsible adults.
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Man that stinks, I hope maybe time can heal the wound perhaps and maybe you can get back in. I lost a piece of land in WV because some dude hunted on a Sunday, even though it's legal in WV, but the land owner told everyone no Sunday hunting...and thanks to that jerk the land was lost and never gained back. Thankfully we had other land but that land was the best by far.
Here in MD it's extremely hard to find private land. I got lucky in that my neighbor has a horse farm and her tractor broke down. I went over and towed it up for her and while we were talking I was just mentioned I hunt and she said I could hunt. I was shocked as my neighbor told me she was very anti hunting but she has since changed that stance just because there are too many deer in MD (and not enough people that hunt, especially where I am). I ended up missing a nice buck and taking a small doe over there this year and hope that I can find a new job so we can stay here...there's nothing like a less than 5 minute walk to be in the woods and hunting. I also go over there all the time and help her mend fence and do some bush-hogging for her as she is a busy woman and works a ton. I never ask for a dime and am just glad to help her, and would whether she let me hunt or not, but that's just how I am.
Again Manny, sorry for you loss and I hope you can get back in or find somewhere else my friend.
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Manny that not worthy... Can you use the landowner as a reference for other permissions?
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Man that sukz! I have no use for people like that. There are a lot of idjits in this world suffering the rest of us. If I was that owner I'd be doing everything I could to find the puke who did that. I don't get punishing everyone else for the bad act of one. You consistently hunted there without issue. Sure hope you're able to find a good spot eventually.
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Thanks guys, I have other spot but this particular one is Phenomenal
big variety of different envinroments, there's a valley with a huge mango grove, been monitoring the flowering and looks like it's gonna be a great year for mangoes and that means all summer great hunting in that valley.
Ho well, onward we go :)
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Perfect timing,
ordered and will get my new REX .357 tomorrow,
The other hunting grounds require going through neighborougs or trails of some kind so Backpacking is essential, the REX Mini-Carbine with the extra tank from the REX rifle is the perfect backpacking hunter :)
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When that guy's property gets overrun with hogs tearing up his place he'll regret that decision.
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Hopefully reason will prevail.
Hunter
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Perfect timing,
ordered and will get my new REX .357 tomorrow,
The other hunting grounds require going through neighborougs or trails of some kind so Backpacking is essential, the REX Mini-Carbine with the extra tank from the REX rifle is the perfect backpacking hunter :)
Where did you turn up the REX from?
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Sorry to hear you lost that permission. Texas is also weird about airguns on public land. With all the new airgun friendly legislation, you'd think they would allow the air guns on state land.
Nope! It's like they put all this time and research into a decision that allows airguns, but then you still can't use them.
To be fair most Texas hunters hunt provate land, with less than 0.1 acres of public access per capita in this state.
Anyway not to threadjack. I sure hope that you can get that permission back over time, and I hope they catch that a-hole and he gets crucified!
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Perfect timing,
ordered and will get my new REX .357 tomorrow,
The other hunting grounds require going through neighborougs or trails of some kind so Backpacking is essential, the REX Mini-Carbine with the extra tank from the REX rifle is the perfect backpacking hunter :)
Where did you turn up the REX from?
Airgun Pro shop now sells Evanix
https://www.airgunproshop.com/product-category/evanix-usa-airguns/ (https://www.airgunproshop.com/product-category/evanix-usa-airguns/)
Next is gonna be the REX .50 and the REX pistol .50,....will get them in one order
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When that guy's property gets overrun with hogs tearing up his place he'll regret that decision.
But this is not that kind of property,
This is wild country, I have to make my own trails and have for almost a decade now.
Nobody goes back there it can and it is full of Pigs but it will always be, wild backcountry.
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I'm very sorry to hear. We lost property that my family has hunted for close to 70 years because it was sold and the new owner told us we did "a terrible job managing the deer and we shouldn't have taken anything less than 8 points". 173 acres of prime property gone.
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Manny,
When one door close’s another one opens. You are a good hunter and your skills will be needed.
Mitch
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When that guy's property gets overrun with hogs tearing up his place he'll regret that decision.
But this is not that kind of property,
This is wild country, I have to make my own trails and have for almost a decade now.
Nobody goes back there it can and it is full of Pigs but it will always be, wild backcountry.
*10yrs* of hunting there with no problems then just 1 eff up from some idjit gets you the boot too. That just sukz rotten eggs. I wouldn't want my cow shot either but that's way overreacting with you hunting there all that time without issue. I don't like people penalizing others for the act of one jerk but it's their land to do as they see fit wrong or right.
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Problem is the cow was shot at the ranch I have to go through to get to the property I hunt,...the pressure put from the rancher buckled the property owner, gotta stay friendly with the neighbors.
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Congrats Manny on the new REX .357 rifle. Had mine out yesterday hunting Turkey and really enjoying it. Very sorry to hear about the Permission, but hopefully the land owner will change his mind when he sees the destruction those Oinkers can do to the land in the wild.
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I hate that there's feral pigs out there that no one has permission to shoot.
Those things destroy ecosystems.
I hope you can eventually get at 'em.
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You lose any property out there?
In Texas a lot of guys, when they lose a lease, lose all their stuff with it. Might be given a window to get it and get out, if you miss it thats on you without regards to your job or what you have going on.
Dudes have lost their ATV's and feeders, blinds, etc.
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You lose any property out there?
In Texas a lot of guys, when they lose a lease, lose all their stuff with it. Might be given a window to get it and get out, if you miss it thats on you without regards to your job or what you have going on.
Dudes have lost their ATV's and feeders, blinds, etc.
No I had nothing material on the property,.....but,
In expectation of a great summer fruit season I spent a lot of time building a network of ground blinds, I was so stoked about them, great locations, well made blinds,
also Machete cut several new trails for different directions entry in certain locations.
Many, many hours of work all lost now unfortunately.
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You should be happy Manny, That is the way AOC would make it. lol
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You should be happy Manny, That is the way AOC would make it. lol
What is AOC ??? ...why should I be happy ?
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I suspect they mean Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and it was an attempt at making politics. ::)
Sorry to hear that you lost your permission. :(
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I suspect they mean Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and it was an attempt at making politics. ::)
Sorry to hear that you lost your permission. :(
Ahhhh thanks, ;D ;D many are trying to make politics as of late, and to them I say then :
But I love her !!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
She is the future,...finally the real savior has arrived ;D
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Haha, I knew it.
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You lose any property out there?
In Texas a lot of guys, when they lose a lease, lose all their stuff with it. Might be given a window to get it and get out, if you miss it thats on you without regards to your job or what you have going on.
Dudes have lost their ATV's and feeders, blinds, etc.
No I had nothing material on the property,.....but,
In expectation of a great summer fruit season I spent a lot of time building a network of ground blinds, I was so stoked about them, great locations, well made blinds,
also Machete cut several new trails for different directions entry in certain locations.
Many, many hours of work all lost now unfortunately.
I sure hate to hear that. Nothing good comes from letting a hog population go unchecked.
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Yeah, but the thing that bums me the most is that I know it was gonna be a great hunting summer, I was already dreaming of spending the long summer days in those beautiful forests.
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Sorry to hear you lost your permission Manny. Hopefully something else becomes available to you. It never ceases to amaze me on the stupidity of the human race. Perhaps later on in the season you could re-approach the land owners and regain permission. I can see why your bummed, that is some beautiful land you hunt on. I'm sure just being out there provides a certain amount of peace. Good luck. And congrats on the new gun(s).
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There is no farming without pesting.
It's only a matter of time before the swine plow the field.
Just make sure that they have your number.
Hunter
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There is no farming without pesting.
It's only a matter of time before the swine plow the field.
Just make sure that they have your number.
Hunter
There's no farming in this property, it's just mountains, steep mountains and jungles, it makes no difference on the land owner if it's not hunted he will not even notice the difference,.....this is true wild backcountry land.
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Manny, I truly feel for you. I have enjoyed reading your posts while hunting you permission, it does look unspoiled.
There's no farming in this property, it's just mountains, steep mountains and jungles, it makes no difference on the land owner if it's not hunted he will not even notice the difference,.....this is true wild backcountry land.
Perhaps the ranch where the cow was shot will see that pesting is part of farming and ranching.
I hope that you can manage to get back in the hunt.
Hunter
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Truth about the "wild invasive feral swine" that "plagues farmers" is that hunters often prove to be the worse of two evils.
Most land owners just don't trust people and for good reason. There is always an a-hole ready to ruin it.
Also to be honest you are not gonna make a difference in feral pigs with an air rifle. They are too fecund. If you are not trapping them aggressively and then using night vision to shoot the ones that remain after dark, you'll never put them in check.
Farmers and ranchers learned the hard way that you can't trust most hunters that want to "do you a favor" and shoot your pigs. that is why there are no free pig hunts in Texas.
Besides that, invasive and destructive as they may be, it's still a resource that has value.
So now, if a landowner is gonna risk letting you on his land to hunt pigs, you gotta pay to play most of the time.
So I hope you can catch that a-hole that shot that cow and give him a little bit of island justice.
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Manny, I truly feel for you. I have enjoyed reading your posts while hunting you permission, it does look unspoiled.
There's no farming in this property, it's just mountains, steep mountains and jungles, it makes no difference on the land owner if it's not hunted he will not even notice the difference,.....this is true wild backcountry land.
Perhaps the ranch where the cow was shot will see that pesting is part of farming and ranching.
I hope that you can manage to get back in the hunt.
Hunter
Yeah, yeah my Friend, I have other spots ( some I haven't visited in a long time so I need some scouting first ) .....Just that this one was a true gem.