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Title: Benjamin Trail Stealth .177 shoots too low
Post by: Wepster on December 18, 2019, 04:23:38 PM
Just got my new wood stocked Trail Stealth - great Crosman sale!
At 10 yards (my garage) it is shooting 6" low (after 2 full 360 deg turns of the elevation adjustment. Shimmed with a bit of foam tape (did not crank down on the ring screws, just snuged them) now 5.5" too low.
Thinking I need the open sights, will call Crosman tomorrow (have to go shovel driveway now).
I read here someplace should not adjust scope more than couple inches ( I think).
Suggestions anyone?
Title: Re: Benjamin Trail Stealth .177 shoots too low
Post by: archellas on December 18, 2019, 04:32:07 PM
Aim higher ???? ;) :D ;D

Just kidding, you might need to get a droop riser for your scope, not an unusual situation ....

https://www.airgundepot.com/utg-drooper-scope-rail--11mm-to-weaver-adapter.html (https://www.airgundepot.com/utg-drooper-scope-rail--11mm-to-weaver-adapter.html)

This is what I am talking about. Hope this helps!

Cheers and Merry Christmas
Title: Re: Benjamin Trail Stealth .177 shoots too low
Post by: Roadworthy on December 18, 2019, 05:11:50 PM
That is far too low at ten yards.  If the gun is new I suggest warranty replacement.  It could be a barrel thing or a velocity thing.  Either way droop compensating mounts will NOT solve the problem.
Title: Re: Benjamin Trail Stealth .177 shoots too low
Post by: avator on December 18, 2019, 05:30:05 PM
Send it back.
Title: Re: Benjamin Trail Stealth .177 shoots too low
Post by: Wepster on December 19, 2019, 11:49:01 AM
Called Crosman, they said I need to put 150 rounds through, then see where it shoots. I am going to send an email confirming this.
Title: Re: Benjamin Trail Stealth .177 shoots too low
Post by: Roadworthy on December 19, 2019, 01:58:10 PM
They like you to confirm the problem for them.  Of course you could ask them for the 150 pellets to prove it doesn't work well - it is THEIR test by the way.  They should provide a free return label.  By the way, you can shoot a thousand or ten thousand pellets.  If it's really six inches low at ten yards it's simply not going to get better.  I had a Nitro Venom which could deviate as much as two inches at ten yards.  It could be up one day and down the next, then going back up again.  I returned it.  Twice.  I kept the third one.  Some have good results with Crosman guns, I'm just not one of them.  Their customer service is excellent, though.  Perhaps one day I'll get a Marauder.
Title: Re: Benjamin Trail Stealth .177 shoots too low
Post by: Dave S on December 19, 2019, 05:20:31 PM
Just got my new wood stocked Trail Stealth - great Crosman sale!
At 10 yards (my garage) it is shooting 6" low (after 2 full 360 deg turns of the elevation adjustment. Shimmed with a bit of foam tape (did not crank down on the ring screws, just snuged them) now 5.5" too low.
Thinking I need the open sights, will call Crosman tomorrow (have to go shovel driveway now).
I read here someplace should not adjust scope more than couple inches ( I think).
Suggestions anyone?

Wrong! Crank the scope elevation counterclockwise about 6 full turns to shoot higher. If it doesn't shoot any higher......send it back! BTW, Gunny taught me how to dial in scopes over 45 years ago. was on the 100 yard line...couldn't find paper. Range rules were that you could not shoot anything but the target. Not so for the Range Master. He took the weapon and said, "Spot me on that rock out there. First shot was  about 1 1/2 feet high at 11:00. He cranked that scope like he was winding a watch! 5 turns down 3 turns to the left! 3 more shots....on the money! Lesson learned!  Don't baby any scope. Crank it till it either works...or it doesn't! dave
Title: Re: Benjamin Trail Stealth .177 shoots too low
Post by: Wepster on December 20, 2019, 05:32:57 AM
Just got my new wood stocked Trail Stealth - great Crosman sale!
At 10 yards (my garage) it is shooting 6" low (after 2 full 360 deg turns of the elevation adjustment. Shimmed with a bit of foam tape (did not crank down on the ring screws, just snuged them) now 5.5" too low.
Thinking I need the open sights, will call Crosman tomorrow (have to go shovel driveway now).
I read here someplace should not adjust scope more than couple inches ( I think).
Suggestions anyone?

Wrong! Crank the scope elevation counterclockwise about 6 full turns to shoot higher. If it doesn't shoot any higher......send it back! BTW, Gunny taught me how to dial in scopes over 45 years ago. was on the 100 yard line...couldn't find paper. Range rules were that you could not shoot anything but the target. Not so for the Range Master. He took the weapon and said, "Spot me on that rock out there. First shot was  about 1 1/2 feet high at 11:00. He cranked that scope like he was winding a watch! 5 turns down 3 turns to the left! 3 more shots....on the money! Lesson learned!  Don't baby any scope. Crank it till it either works...or it doesn't! dave
OK! Crank on the scope I will!
Email from Kevin at Crosman said if it doesn't come around after the 150 shots, first thing they will do is send me a new scope.
Title: Re: Benjamin Trail Stealth .177 shoots too low
Post by: Dave S on December 26, 2019, 06:08:50 PM
Just got my new wood stocked Trail Stealth - great Crosman sale!
At 10 yards (my garage) it is shooting 6" low (after 2 full 360 deg turns of the elevation adjustment. Shimmed with a bit of foam tape (did not crank down on the ring screws, just snuged them) now 5.5" too low.
Thinking I need the open sights, will call Crosman tomorrow (have to go shovel driveway now).
I read here someplace should not adjust scope more than couple inches ( I think).
Suggestions anyone?

Wrong! Crank the scope elevation counterclockwise about 6 full turns to shoot higher. If it doesn't shoot any higher......send it back! BTW, Gunny taught me how to dial in scopes over 45 years ago. was on the 100 yard line...couldn't find paper. Range rules were that you could not shoot anything but the target. Not so for the Range Master. He took the weapon and said, "Spot me on that rock out there. First shot was  about 1 1/2 feet high at 11:00. He cranked that scope like he was winding a watch! 5 turns down 3 turns to the left! 3 more shots....on the money! Lesson learned!  Don't baby any scope. Crank it till it either works...or it doesn't! dave
OK! Crank on the scope I will!
Email from Kevin at Crosman said if it doesn't come around after the 150 shots, first thing they will do is send me a new scope.

Well.......What happened?........................ You give 'em books.....and they keep eatin' the covers!  ??? dave
Title: Re: Benjamin Trail Stealth .177 shoots too low
Post by: Wepster on December 26, 2019, 06:52:45 PM
Cranked on the scope, a lot of 360 deg turns, now shoots where it is supposed to, still doing break in, so can not address accuracy, and the scope is not AO so at 10 yards my 1/2" dot is blurry.
Title: Re: Benjamin Trail Stealth .177 shoots too low
Post by: Nvreloader on December 31, 2019, 04:34:33 PM
Bill

Try these scope rings mounts, I think your problems will be solved,
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Monstrum-Tactical-1-inch-Adjustable-Height-Scope-Rings/163724469362 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Monstrum-Tactical-1-inch-Adjustable-Height-Scope-Rings/163724469362)

I had the same problem, installed these rings, centered the cross hairs in the scope,
then used these rings height adjustment to get within and inch or so of the POA,
and locked the height adjustment down.

When I tested these rings,
I found that I had over 32+ inches of adjustment, either up or down, at 25 yds from the level position,
with the built in height adjustments of the rings.   :o

HTH,

Tia,
Don
Title: Re: Benjamin Trail Stealth .177 shoots too low
Post by: Wepster on January 01, 2020, 06:16:46 AM
Bill

Try these scope rings mounts, I think your problems will be solved,
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Monstrum-Tactical-1-inch-Adjustable-Height-Scope-Rings/163724469362 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Monstrum-Tactical-1-inch-Adjustable-Height-Scope-Rings/163724469362)

I had the same problem, installed these rings, centered the cross hairs in the scope,
then used these rings height adjustment to get within and inch or so of the POA,
and locked the height adjustment down.

When I tested these rings,
I found that I had over 32+ inches of adjustment, either up or down, at 25 yds from the level position,
with the built in height adjustments of the rings.   :o

HTH,

Tia,
Don

Wow, I had no idea these existed! I will have to order them. I see they also have the offset rings, might be just the thing for my Umarex Browning Buck Mark.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Benjamin Trail Stealth .177 shoots too low
Post by: NautclRltr on January 01, 2020, 11:03:50 AM
My NP2 was the same when I received it - 6" down and 2.5' to the left at 11 Yards from a centered scope.  I shimmed to compensate but never achieved consistency throughout the 10 to 40 yard range. Six months later I bought a better scope to mount. This time I built a barrel tweaking device similar to NCED's - learned a lot by reading his posts. The NP2 became an accurate shooter after tweaking the barrel to have POI be very close (1/2' lower) to centered scope POA at 11 Yards.  I have since tweaked all my rifle barrels and they all achieved new levels of accuracy throughout their ranges as a result.  Dropper or adjustable mounts could solve the problem as well.