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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => European/Asian Air Gun Gates => China/Asian AirGun Gate => Topic started by: Shoot Straight on August 08, 2011, 01:18:16 AM
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I've heard allot about Bam air rifles and was wondering if the quality, accuracy, and preformance is just as good as some top-notch European rifles.
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i would have to say yes but will take a little TLC to get them there. with that being said if you are not willing to get them tuned then stick with the top-notch air rifles. And also i believe the bam company no longer ship here to the U.S. will someone correct me if i'm wrong
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If you can get a BAM i would, they are getting hard to find but are finely made guns imho. j
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If you get the bam rifle make sure to have mike melick go and tune/lube it before it goes out.
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If you can get a BAM i would, they are getting hard to find but are finely made guns imho. j
completely agree with , when the are tuned , they are super air rifles.
My tuned bmk20 shoots out every standerd HW95 and my tuned Bam-b40 beats every standard AA tx200 8)
But Bam has stopped production and now in Europe also hard to find >:(
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If you can get a BAM i would, they are getting hard to find but are finely made guns imho. j
completely agree with , when the are tuned , they are super air rifles.
My tuned bmk20 shoots out every standerd HW95 and my tuned Bam-b40 beats every standard AA tx200 8)
But Bam has stopped production and now in Europe also hard to find >:(
I am not sure if I was you if I would e saying that , could be the shooter not the ag David
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I have to give the BAM airguns a thumbs up and pretty respectable out of the box. I own three two B26's in .177 and one B25.22 Bamboo stock. All three are tuned and perform beyond my expectations. I strictly hunt with all my shooters and the BAMS always seem to end up in my hand's. I need to get the B25.22 out more since it's already spot on and not even a tin through her. It's to bad that The good clone shooters stop getting produced or shipped to the states and then some companies put out junk and want us to shoot it instead of using it for a tire iron. Ed
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My MM lube tuned B26-2 is one of my two favorite rifles.
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i have a few BAM rifles ;)Okay a total of 9 and I won't sell any of them.I have German rifles but i always reach for my Bam for the field.
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I got six guns, 5 are BAM or Xisico. My B40 will be cremated with me when I go to the Big Range so I got something to shoot those pesky cherubs with!!
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Is it true that BAM helped make the Rugers? The Rugers are models that BAM already made just with different names.
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I have a BAM/Xisico(wonder how you say that name?) B-51 PCP rifle that after just a tiny bit of TLC shoot's as well as "any" AG I have shoot to date,this include's up to a Daystate(which the B-51 is a clone of),the "real" DS did hold a better group at 100yds in my hand's, but not enough to get me to spend 2,500 buck's on one. Great AG's if you tinker for the money.
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I own 3 BAM air rifles. My B30 and B40 both needed serious attention to rectify quality control problems that would have made them nearly impossible to shoot. Upon delivery (direct from Xisico) my B30 was so full of dirt and machining debris that the compression cylinder was scored - my first test shot bouced off a pine board at point blank range. The B40 broke the spring shortly after I started shooting it - due to compression loss from a faulty 0-ring in the compression cyl. cap. The B30 & B40 were retrofitted with custom compression cylinders of my own design, and I eventually designed and built custom pistons for all of my BAM airguns. My B26 came from Mike Melick and was the best shooter right out of the box, but it ended up as a test bed for a lot of tweaks and upgrades including a match grade barrel, which I installed myself.
BAM airguns are great if you get them from MM, and if you are willing to tinker with them to get them to shoot nicely.
Tom
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Is it true that BAM helped make the Rugers? The Rugers are models that BAM already made just with different names.
Where did you hear this? I'd be interested in knowing if it true as well.
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Bams 16, 25 & 60 has been rebranded
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Bams 16, 25 & 60 has been rebranded
Thanks, and I knew that too, silly me.
B16 = Ruger Explorer
B25 = Ruger Air Hawk/Black Hawk
B60/XS60= Ruger LGR
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Current manufacture Ruger air rifles are produced mainly by the Zhejiang Xinhua Sporting Goods Company. You can see the factory site at http://www.xtsgcn.com/product.asp (http://www.xtsgcn.com/product.asp) and you will recognize a number of the guns that are branded as Xisico and Ruger in the US. Ruger airguns, of course, are actually manufactured for Umarex, which distributes and sells them world-wide.
BAM manufactures a number of break barrel air rifles for Crosman and they also manufacture the whole of the Stoeger Airguns family. You can see their core product range on the manufacturer's site at at http://www.china-bam.com/beining/html/prl1/t171.html (http://www.china-bam.com/beining/html/prl1/t171.html) They also manufacture guns and parts for a number of other brands. BAM air rifles have not been imported into the US under their own brand name since 2009, all their recent production is branded for other companies.
Shanghai Airgun Company manufactures Tech Force air rifles and the Chinese Beeman rifles such as the RS2/1073 sold at Wal-Mart. You can see their products on the factory site at http://www.airrifle-china.com/newEbiz1/EbizPortalFG/portal/html/CategoryList.html?ProductMultiCategoryPicker210_action=SearchCategory&CategoryID=c373e91fadcad0178f6fefcd523e7434&ProductAdvancedPickerIndex_action=Search&ProductAdvancedPickerIndex_CategoryID=c373e91fadcad0178f6fefcd523e7434 (http://www.airrifle-china.com/newEbiz1/EbizPortalFG/portal/html/CategoryList.html?ProductMultiCategoryPicker210_action=SearchCategory&CategoryID=c373e91fadcad0178f6fefcd523e7434&ProductAdvancedPickerIndex_action=Search&ProductAdvancedPickerIndex_CategoryID=c373e91fadcad0178f6fefcd523e7434)
BAM, Shanghai and Xinhua are all different companies, although sometimes they will co-operate if mutually beneficial.
I hope this clears some of the branding/manufacturing confusion that surrounds this issue. Maybe????
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Mr. Archer
THANK YOU FOR THOSE SITES VERY INFORMATIVE.
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Yes, thanks Mr. Archer...
You are a wealth of info on Chinese air guns...
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Current manufacture Ruger air rifles are produced mainly by the Zhejiang Xinhua Sporting Goods Company. You can see the factory site at http://www.xtsgcn.com/product.asp (http://www.xtsgcn.com/product.asp) and you will recognize a number of the guns that are branded as Xisico and Ruger in the US. Ruger airguns, of course, are actually manufactured for Umarex, which distributes and sells them world-wide.
BAM manufactures a number of break barrel air rifles for Crosman and they also manufacture the whole of the Stoeger Airguns family. You can see their core product range on the manufacturer's site at at http://www.china-bam.com/beining/html/prl1/t171.html (http://www.china-bam.com/beining/html/prl1/t171.html) They also manufacture guns and parts for a number of other brands. BAM air rifles have not been imported into the US under their own brand name since 2009, all their recent production is branded for other companies.
Shanghai Airgun Company manufactures Tech Force air rifles and the Chinese Beeman rifles such as the RS2/1073 sold at Wal-Mart. You can see their products on the factory site at http://www.airrifle-china.com/newEbiz1/EbizPortalFG/portal/html/CategoryList.html?ProductMultiCategoryPicker210_action=SearchCategory&CategoryID=c373e91fadcad0178f6fefcd523e7434&ProductAdvancedPickerIndex_action=Search&ProductAdvancedPickerIndex_CategoryID=c373e91fadcad0178f6fefcd523e7434 (http://www.airrifle-china.com/newEbiz1/EbizPortalFG/portal/html/CategoryList.html?ProductMultiCategoryPicker210_action=SearchCategory&CategoryID=c373e91fadcad0178f6fefcd523e7434&ProductAdvancedPickerIndex_action=Search&ProductAdvancedPickerIndex_CategoryID=c373e91fadcad0178f6fefcd523e7434)
BAM, Shanghai and Xinhua are all different companies, although sometimes they will co-operate if mutually beneficial.
I hope this clears some of the branding/manufacturing confusion that surrounds this issue. Maybe????
@SSS$$$
^&$@_=s Inc.
http://www.@#$%^.com (http://www.@#$%^.com)
Are any of the SPA "Snow Peak Airguns" rebranded for other
suppliers ?..be good to know what guns to avoided..
they are undoultedly the worst air gun builder on the planet..
Pete
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So if BAM are no longer selling the B-26 under their own brand name.... WHO IS ???
Bob
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I was looking at the Chinese Air Rifle Portal clone list towards the bottom and if correct XISICO should sell them or a clone of them... (XS-B26-2)
http://chineseairgunportal.brutuz.com/clonelist.htm (http://chineseairgunportal.brutuz.com/clonelist.htm)
Best Airgun has the Xisco versions...
http://bestairgun.stores.yahoo.net/ (http://bestairgun.stores.yahoo.net/)
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Pete,
I'm less sure about the Snowpeak guns. If you look at their site at http://www.china-airrifle.com (http://www.china-airrifle.com) there are some B1 and B3 models that look identical to those shown by BAM and Shanghai. I would guess that one of these companies is OEM-ing these guns to the other, but I don't know which way round that arrangement works.
At any event, it's my understanding that Snowpeak does not OEM to any of the major brands sold in the USA (at least).
But we do sell some of their pellets in our store and they're actually quite good!
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http://www.@#$%^.com (http://www.@#$%^.com)
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Hello,
I've a BAM-40 from Mike Melick and have also owned a B-26. Mike's rifle is a great shooter. Accurate and hard hitting but I cannot comment on what it was like internally before he worked on it. Outside finish and fit is very nice. The B-26 was left standard and was not a bad rifle for the money. I'd buy another. However compared to an Air Arms there is no competition. The AA is a far superior rifle but and it's a big but the price difference is huge. So for the money the BAM rifles are great value and I think you'll be pleased with one of them.
Good luck,
Alan