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Title: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: Bayman on October 20, 2019, 03:29:29 PM
I finally have this Rx1 working perfectly. This rifle is a 20 caliber. While I like the idea of 20 cal for a gun of this power, the pellet choices are few and expensive. I'm considering rebarreling it to 22. I can get a new barrel from chambers for around 120 dollars plus shipping. They're so many pellet choices in 22, it's tempting. I'm particularly interested in some of the hunting pellets. The only hunting pellet in 20 is the predators and I don't know if they're a gimmick or not. Anyway I'm open to any ideas or suggestions.
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: Robert 5mm on October 20, 2019, 03:57:26 PM
You may want to buy a new HW80 .22 from Krale approx $430 total delivered and then get the new Vortek SHO kit.
Then sell me the Rx1.
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: Stinger177 on October 20, 2019, 04:10:33 PM
Or get this and keep the RX1.  ;)

https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/spring-piston/weihrauch-hw95-luxus-.22/ (https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/spring-piston/weihrauch-hw95-luxus-.22/)
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: gendoc on October 20, 2019, 04:25:40 PM
or buy the .22 barrel and sell me your old .20 barrel..... ;)
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: Bayman on October 20, 2019, 04:46:46 PM
Or get this and keep the RX1.  ;)

https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/spring-piston/weihrauch-hw95-luxus-.22/ (https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/spring-piston/weihrauch-hw95-luxus-.22/)
Thanks Dennis.  :D  You know I only need the slightest push to do it.  ;)

I have those peep sights coming, so now I need a new gun to put under them.
The Hw95L is probably my top pick.  Not sure which caliber yet. I usually would go 177cal on that power, but with peeps it'll be a short range hunter so 22 might be interesting.
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: Bayman on October 20, 2019, 04:51:51 PM
You may want to buy a new HW80 .22 from Krale approx $430 total delivered and then get the new Vortek SHO kit.
Then sell me the Rx1.
I would seriously consider this if the Hw80 had a stock that extended to front of the breech block. The abbreviated stocks don't appeal to me. I've been looking for a 22 cal R1 for some time now.
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: Robert 5mm on October 20, 2019, 05:13:24 PM
I have a new/old Beeman R1 stock I bought for putting on a HW80.

I should just do what I proposed you do, get a new HW80 .22 and the Vortek SHO and use my stock like I planned to do.
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: Bayman on October 20, 2019, 05:58:17 PM
I have a new/old Beeman R1 stock I bought for putting on a HW80.

I should just do what I proposed you do, get a new HW80 .22 and the Vortek SHO and use my stock like I planned to do.
Tease! Nice stock! Maybe we could work a trade?
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: serdac on October 21, 2019, 01:11:12 AM
Stick with the .20 cal - you have 11.42, 13.58, 13.73, 14, 14.3, and 15.89 grain pellets to choose from. Unless you plan on shooting the light weight lead free pellets or the 18.x grain JSB you have a decent selection there.
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: Bayman on October 21, 2019, 01:24:13 AM
Stick with the .20 cal - you have 11.42, 13.58, 13.73, 14, 14.3, and 15.89 grain pellets to choose from. Unless you plan on shooting the light weight lead free pellets or the 18.x grain JSB you have a decent selection there.
Who makes 14 and 14.3 pellets in 20 cal. Benjamin? I haven't tried them because they don't get good reviews in Weihrauchs. Right now only the 13.73 qnd 13.58 pellets work well in this rifle. I've tried the 11.42 and 15.89 and they both print inches away from the 13 grain stuff which requires total re-zeroing. The JSB heavies wouldn't group well for me. This leaves me two pellets, neither one are made for hunting.
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: serdac on October 21, 2019, 02:01:06 AM
Stick with the .20 cal - you have H&N 11.42, Poly 13, H&N 13.58, JSB 13.73, Benjamin 14.3, and JSB 15.89 grain pellets to choose from. Unless you plan on shooting the light weight lead free pellets or the 18.x grain JSB you have a decent selection there.
Who makes 14 and 14.3 pellets in 20 cal. Benjamin? I haven't tried them because they don't get good reviews in Weihrauchs. Right now only the 13.73 qnd 13.58 pellets work well in this rifle. I've tried the 11.42 and 15.89 and they both print inches away from the 13 grain stuff which requires total re-zeroing. The JSB heavies wouldn't group well for me. This leaves me two pellets, neither one are made for hunting.

This is what I meant: H&N 11.42, Poly 13, H&N 13.58, JSB 13.73, Benjamin 14.3 and JSB 15.89 grain. What are you hunting that the 13.58 and 13.73 at whatever foot-pounds you have the RX set to can’t cleanly take, how far are you shooting?
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: Bayman on October 21, 2019, 04:24:38 AM
Stick with the .20 cal - you have H&N 11.42, Poly 13, H&N 13.58, JSB 13.73, Benjamin 14.3, and JSB 15.89 grain pellets to choose from. Unless you plan on shooting the light weight lead free pellets or the 18.x grain JSB you have a decent selection there.
Who makes 14 and 14.3 pellets in 20 cal. Benjamin? I haven't tried them because they don't get good reviews in Weihrauchs. Right now only the 13.73 qnd 13.58 pellets work well in this rifle. I've tried the 11.42 and 15.89 and they both print inches away from the 13 grain stuff which requires total re-zeroing. The JSB heavies wouldn't group well for me. This leaves me two pellets, neither one are made for hunting.

This is what I meant: H&N 11.42, Poly 13, H&N 13.58, JSB 13.73, Benjamin 14.3 and JSB 15.89 grain. What are you hunting that the 13.58 and 13.73 at whatever foot-pounds you have the RX set to can’t cleanly take, how far are you shooting?

Grey squirrels on my buddies property upstate. I get pass throughs in good body shots and had some still run around a lot before dying. Even head shots they flip all over the place on nerves, even though they are technically dead. A buddy of mine says he doesn't get pass throughs with crow magnums in his 22 springer. He says they expand, dump all the energy and doesn't get any runners. Also 20 caliber ammo is just more expensive. My Rx1 is set at 19fpe. Heck I would even like to try wadcutter if they made one. There's just not enough choices.
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: serdac on October 21, 2019, 02:26:34 PM
I wonder if lowering the ram pressure will prevent pass throughs and help. I’ve gotten death ray kills on 7 south Florida invasive iguanas from 11 to 21 yards with a BSA Ultra SE in .25 cal (20 grain FTT @ 490 FPS at the muzzle) and a Beeman R9 in .20 (13.73 grain JSB @ 650 FPS at the muzzle), all head shots and the iguanas weren’t small.
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: Bayman on October 21, 2019, 04:29:49 PM
I wonder if lowering the ram pressure will prevent pass throughs and help. I’ve gotten death ray kills on 7 south Florida invasive iguanas from 11 to 21 yards with a BSA Ultra SE in .25 cal (20 grain FTT @ 490 FPS at the muzzle) and a Beeman R9 in .20 (13.73 grain JSB @ 650 FPS at the muzzle), all head shots and the iguanas weren’t small.
Iguanas. Interesting. I'm not sure how iguanas are compared to squirrels. An R9 in 20 caliber is a nice gun! Love my very similar Hw95 in 177. I think that guns power is perfectly matched to 20 caliber. I'm on the fence about what caliber to order a Hw95 Luxus (similar to the R9) to put peep sights on as a short range pester. I'm back to the pellet choice and availability. Ugh what a rabbit hole this is.
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: Chouchin66 on October 21, 2019, 06:19:56 PM
Bayman; I'm inclined to believe that pass throughs are just a fact of life w/a .177 @ short to mid yardage. I've gotten them (for the most part) w/ my .22 15# rifle @ 50yds. As long as yer hittin' heart/lungs it's only a matter of seconds... If they jump straight up @ impact... Job done.
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: Chouchin66 on October 21, 2019, 06:27:13 PM
Have had heart shot deer/elk. go for 30-60 yards pre- expiration.
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: Yogi on October 21, 2019, 07:07:44 PM
I wonder if lowering the ram pressure will prevent pass throughs and help. I’ve gotten death ray kills on 7 south Florida invasive iguanas from 11 to 21 yards with a BSA Ultra SE in .25 cal (20 grain FTT @ 490 FPS at the muzzle) and a Beeman R9 in .20 (13.73 grain JSB @ 650 FPS at the muzzle), all head shots and the iguanas weren’t small.

At 15 yards or so, I kill iguanas with my LP-8 shooting about 450fps.  1 inch behind the eye and 1/2 lower is the death spot.  You don't need a .25 for this.
Placement is the key.  Hope you eat the Igi's after you kill them?

-Y
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: serdac on October 21, 2019, 07:24:13 PM
The .25 and .20 was all I had at the time. I don’t eat them, I’ve seen that some folks do.
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: Bayman on October 21, 2019, 08:34:43 PM
The .25 and .20 was all I had at the time. I don’t eat them, I’ve seen that some folks do.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean compare in taste. I meant as in easy or hard to kill. Some critters are tougher than others.
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: serdac on October 21, 2019, 08:56:11 PM
No worries, I should though I know a couple of guys from PR that do. I’m not handy when it comes to cooking. I actually feel bad for them but the state has declared war on them. They are all over down here, at any given time I have 3-4 in my yard that leads up to a canal/lake. Back to you original post the squirrels dancing around is probably a normal nerve death dance.
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: Robert 5mm on October 21, 2019, 09:38:02 PM
I would guess they taste like chicken.
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: Stinger177 on October 21, 2019, 09:41:46 PM
Before long this will get moved to the Martha Stewart gate.  :D
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: Bayman on October 21, 2019, 10:33:50 PM
Before long this will get moved to the Martha Stewart gate.  :D
Isn't she in jail or something?
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: Stinger177 on October 21, 2019, 10:37:38 PM
Before long this will get moved to the Martha Stewart gate.  :D
Isn't she in jail or something?

She's out. Making up Iguana recipes I hear.
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: joek on October 21, 2019, 11:12:30 PM
heard they make for good tacos, I'll try most anything once  ;D
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: Stinger177 on October 21, 2019, 11:34:44 PM
heard they make for good tacos, I'll try most anything once  ;D

I'll be in Mexico next week. I'll ask around.   8)
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: Yogi on October 22, 2019, 11:42:12 AM
No worries, I should though I know a couple of guys from PR that do. I’m not handy when it comes to cooking. I actually feel bad for them but the state has declared war on them. They are all over down here, at any given time I have 3-4 in my yard that leads up to a canal/lake. Back to you original post the squirrels dancing around is probably a normal nerve death dance.

And they have the nastiest poop ever. >:(  Kill'm all.

-Y
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: Bayman on October 22, 2019, 02:57:24 PM
I think I'll keep the 20 cal barrel. This rifle is going to be a killer. That's the first 5 shots out of it this morning.
Avg 800fps
ES 11
SD 4
19.5 FPE
Even at only 10 yards that's not bad for a stone cold gun.
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: dwalk on October 23, 2019, 06:24:09 PM
I shoot H&N barracuda 13.5 grain and JSB Diabolo Exact 13.73 from my RX1 20 caliber set at 20 BAR ram pressure with more than adequate accuracy.

I have taken rabbit and squirrel at 60 yards with it with no problems.

as with ANY hunting scenario, shot placement is paramount.

 :D
Title: Re: Rx1 20cal rebarrel to 22??
Post by: Bayman on October 23, 2019, 06:31:19 PM
I shoot H&N barracuda 13.5 grain and JSB Diabolo Exact 13.73 from my RX1 20 caliber set at 20 BAR ram pressure with more than adequate accuracy.

I have taken rabbit and squirrel at 60 yards with it with no problems.

as with ANY hunting scenario, shot placement is paramount.

 :D
What kind of velocity are you getting @ 20 bar?